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1989-11-29 - Plan Commission - Minutes Special Meeting BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Northwest Building Material and Supply Company, Workshop #2 November 29, 1989 Chairman Sheldon called the meeting to order at 7:34 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug Mr. Rhodes Ms. Howard Mr. Braiman Mr. Rubin Mr. Rosenston Mr. Charlette Also Present: Mr. John P. Green, Architect Mr. Frank P. Salathe, JEN Land Design Mr. Chuck Hanson, Sr. , Northwest Building Material and Supply Company Mr. Gary Glover, Village Trustee Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Rubin, to approve the minutes of the Regular Meeting of November 1, 1989. The motion passed unanimously, with Commissioner Rosenston abstaining. Chairman Sheldon announced that the Public Hearing scheduled regarding the Mormon Church had been cancelled at the developer's request and would be rescheduled as soon as possible. COMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS Commissioner Goldspiel reported on the numbers of parking spaces required to support a train station site stating the Chairman of the Transportation Commission had advised that the R. L. Bank Study used for the Wisconsin Central train station L/ indicated in the first year of operation a requirement of 364 spaces to support 631 boardings. Year 15 of operation would require 558 spaces to support 1190 boardings. Commissioner Howard attended the November 20, 1989 Village Board meeting and stated nothing was referred to the Plan Commission. The following items were discussed: 1. Resolution 89-58 regarding the Route 83 improvements was passed. 2. The Real Estate Open House Ordinance was sent back to staff for rewording to make it more restrictive in terms of number of signs and size of signs and to address garage sale signs and craft fair2 signs. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Special Meeting - November 29, 1989 - Page 1 3. Waste Management reported on proposals regarding removal of yard waste after 7/1/90 when it will no longer be permitted in land fills, and discussed the composting ordinance. NORTHWEST BUILDING AND SUPPLY, Weiland Road/Aptakisic Road - Workshop #2 Mr. Frank Salathe, site planner for the project, addressed the Commission. He reviewed the site and the points covered at the prior workshop, noting that they had worked out an agreement with the County Highway Department regarding use of the right of way at the rear of the property for stormwater detention use. He stated that because some concerns had been expressed regarding internal circulation of traffic and separating the loading area and the entry, they had revised the plan to move the drive-thru loading area to the southern end of the building, thereby minimizing the intrusion of truck traffic and easing the circulation pattern through the parking lot. Mr. Salathe reported that in compliance with the Lake County Department of Transportation and the Village traffic consultant's recommendation, they have eliminated the access off Weiland Road, which, thus, has allowed them to shift the main entry to the building to a location more central to the parking. He stated they have reconfigured some of the area around the entry of the building allowing them to provide more landscaping, and they have provided the required four handicap parking spaces nearer to the main entrance. Mr. Salathe indicated that they have provided access to the site from the sidewalk along Weiland Road at two locations and have extended the sidewalk adjacent to Old Weiland Road at the southern end of the property. The bike path along Aptakisic Road has been extended across the Old Weiland Road right of way. Mr. Salathe stated the plan will meet all minimum setback requirements, with the smallest distance from the property line being 65 ft. He said they have reduced the one-way drive at the rear of the building to 14 ft. , and have provided an alternate means of circulation through the parking area. The parking area is short one required space. Mr. Salathe pointed out they have provided a location in the loading area for future placement of a saw and noted they would be utilizing a small fork lift for unloading materials and serving the mezzanine area. Mr. John Green, architect, reported that they had relocated the entry and reconfigured the inside of the building to provide a single cashier station with exit directly out from there. Entrance to the building is in the center, thereby achieving a separation of truck and pick-up traffic. Chairman Sheldon asked if the 5-ft. sidewalk along Weiland Road met ordinance requirements and suggested that because a bus stop would be there, a shelter might be appropriate. Commissioner Goldspiel indicated a shelter was not necessary on the east side of Weiland Road. Commissioner Braiman asked if the 14-ft. drive in the rear of the building was sufficient for emergency fire access, and Mr. Pfeil advised it should be adequate. Commissioner Braiman asked if they would extend the 8-ft. sidewalk, and Mr. Salathe indicated they would have no problem doing that if the Lake County Department of Transportation approves leasing of the property needed to achieve that. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Special Meeting - November 29, 1989 - Page 2 Commissioner Braiman then asked about the seasonal display area, and Mr. Green advised it is a continuation of the building with a roof and having display windows accessible from the inside of the building. Commissioner Braiman restated his initial concern that the proposed use did not fit B-1 use standards, noting that this type of use appeared to be more than a hardware use, similar to what had been approved for Seigle's which was B-4. He suggested that possibly the ordinance should be reworded to provide for a home improvement use that doesn't fit the B-1 or B-4 descriptions. Discussion followed regarding the proposed use of the facility with testimony provided by Mr. Chuck Hanson of Northwest Building Material & Supply Co. Further extensive discussion followed regarding the changing nature of the hardware business and whether this use met that definition, with comparisons to the Zimmerman and Seigle's facilities. Commissioner Goldspiel asked if the plan would have to be changed for consideration as a B-1 or B-4 use, and Mr. Pfeil indicated the plan would fit for either use. Chairman Sheldon asked why the property was established as a B-1 us as opposed to B-4, and Mr. Pfeil indicated the property fit either category but a B-4 use would allow other larger retail uses in the future whereas the B-1 designation is more restrictive. Commissioner Goldspiel suggested the possibility of rezoning the property. Mr. Pfeil stated that the Village Attorney had indicated support for a B-1 designation and explained the property would also meet the requirements for a B-3 rezoning with a special use. Chairman Sheldon suggested a special use would give them the ability to control the type of use which may come in the future. Commissioner Goldspiel noted that because of the surrounding uses there is no problem with any interface with residential areas and, therefore, he feels there would be no need to create a planned district under a B-3 zoning. Commissioner Rubin pointed out that a B-3 zoning would change the marketability of the property for the owner and stated that because staff could support a B-1 zoning he would favor that because it would give the Village more control and lower intensity uses would be limited to that property. Commissioner Goldspiel indicated his support of a B-1 zoning because he feels the use is compatible to the type of uses in a shopping center and there is no negative impact to the surrounding area because the facility is self-contained. Commissioner Rubin suggested a poll be taken regarding support of a B-1 zoning designation. Chairman Sheldon called a poll of those in favor of the B-1 zoning, with the vote as follows: AYE: Commissioners Goldspiel, Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Rubin, Rosenston, Charlette NAY: Commissioner Braiman Commissioner Goldspiel asked if the parking space delineation is according to ordinance, and Mr. Pfeil indicated it is. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Special Meeting - November 29, 1989 - Page 3 Commissioner Goldspiel inquired about the 20-ft. area between the drive-thru and the parking area. Mr. Salathe advised this area was provided to accommodate trucks backing out and it would be part of the one-way drive area. Chairman Sheldon expressed concern regarding the door at the rear of the building exiting into the drive area because employees may use it to get to the parking area. Mr. Hanson advised this was an emergency exit only and a 5-ft. sidewalk was provided along the side of the building. Additionally, the door would be alarmed. Commissioner Rosenston asked when they planned to proceed and Mr. Hanson indicated they plan construction to begin in the Spring of 1990. Commissioner Howard asked if a left-turn lane off of Weiland Road would be necessary. Mr. Salathe indicated that traffic studies had shown this would not be required. Chairman Sheldon asked if the driveway would withstand substantial use including truck traffic. Mr. Pfeil stated the driveway would meet basic pavement standards for driveways. Commissioner Braiman asked if the loading area doors would be open all the time. Mr. Hanson advised they would be closed, but the drive-thru doors would remain open except during cold weather. Commissioner Rhodes asked about hours of operation, and stated that he objected to the fact that two of the four required handicap parking spaces located at the south end of the building would require handicapped persons to cross the drive-thru area to get to the main entrance. Commissioner Rubin suggested some type of sign might be appropriate at the north end advising that truck loading traffic may be ahead in order to prevent people from having to back up. Chairman Sheldon suggested the Police Department review include any recommendations regarding signage. Commissioner Charlette asked about the type of landscaping to be provided at the north end of the building because people will walk across it to get from the parking lot. Commissioner Rosenston suggested a walkway be provided through that green area. ILLINOIS ROUTE 83 PARCEL ADJACENT TO SEIGLE'S SIGN PARCEL Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Howard, that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the plat of dedication for the Illinois Route 83 parcel adjacent to Seigle's sign parcel, as depicted on the plat of dedication dated 10/26/89, revised 11/16/89. Following clarification, Commissioner Goldspiel revised his motion to be subject to the correction of the bearing on the west side of the parcel and subject to the addition of a bearing on the east side of the parcel. Seconded by Commissioner Howard, the motion , as revised, was unanimously passed. CHAIRMAN'S REPORT: None FUTURE AGENDA: Mr. Pfeil stated the next meeting would cover Vintage Commercial Square and the redevelopment of the Striker Lanes property. Mr. Pfeil said Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Special Meeting - November 29, 1989 - Page 4 January meetings will be the first and third weeks, and that another meeting may be needed that month. PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS: None STAFF REPORT: None ADJOURNMENT Li Moved by Commissioner Braiman, seconded by Commissioner Howard, and unanimously carried, to adjourn. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at 8:53 P.M. Respectfully Submitted, ROSEMARY ALLEN Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Cf; BARBARA SHELDON, Chairman Li Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Special Meeting - November 29, 1989 - Page 5