1989-02-15 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Proposed Zoning Ordinance Amendment - Park & Ride (I District)
Woodley Park Apartments
Checker Square Shopping Center
Willow Stream Park
February 15, 1989
Chairman Sheldon called the regular meetingto order at 7:33 P.M. in the
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Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Howard
Mr. Braiman
Mr. Rubin
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Krug
Mr. Rosenston
Also Present: Mr. R. Lundine, Transportation Commission
Mr. E. Sabes, Transportation Commission
Mr. H. J. Goslin, Developer, Woodley Apartments
Mr. G. Goslin, Developer, Woodley Apartments
Mr. B. Gold, Developer, Checker Sq. Shop. Cntr
Mr. S. Edelstein, Vintage Resident
Mr. T. E. Black, Mill Creek Homeowner
Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee
Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
None
COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Krug had submitted a very detailed report in writing of the
February 13, 1989 Village Board meeting.
Commissioner Goldspiel attended a meeting of the Wisconsin Central Commuter
Rail Advocacy Group which heard a presentation by UTDC on February 14, 1989.
This dealt with a commuter rail transit system on a single track similar to
the Soo Line proposal.
PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - PARK & RIDE FACILITIES IN I DISTRICT
Mr. Pfeil briefly reviewed his February 10, 1989 memo to the Plan Commission
titled Proposed Amendment to the Zoning Ordinance. He stated that if the
rail service becomes a reality on Lot 49 of the Covington Corporate
Center,the level of the bus facility would probably decrease and a portion of
the parking for the bus facility could be allocated to the rail service. The
Village is counting on the Commonwealth Edison property becoming available
for parking. Rail and full scale bus facilities parking would not forfit on
this site. He assumed the bus shelter would be a typical shelter structure.
Mr. Sabes, Chairman of the Village's Transportation Commission, stated the
main bus route for the park and ride facility will be Route #691. Other
routes are contemplated but he did not think there would be a great deal of
usage for parking for these other routes. He read a resolution made by the
Transportation Commission supporting this facility.
Commissioner Goldspiel felt the site is tight for the use the Village wants
and turning it into a bus terminal or park and ride facility will cause
problems.
The Plan Commission directed the staff to prepare the proposed amendment for
a public hearing.
WOODLEY PARK APARTMENTS (MILL CREEK)
Mr. Goslin stated they have removed a building and are at 14 dwelling units
per acre. They have changed the site plan and it is now a mirror image of
the prior plan because of engineering considerations that put the storm water
detention on the north part of the site. Thirty-six units will be 2 bedroom,
1 bath and 12 will be 1 bedroom, 1 bath. There are 108 total parking spaces
and they are at 2.2 parking spaces per unit. They have taken one building
and slid it back 18' , making the 40' between the sidewall at rear wall of
adjacent buildings. They cannot meet the 35' building setback to the north
boundary of the development and will be seeking a variation for this. The
driveways are increased to 26' . A public sidewalk has been added on Old
Arlington Heights Road plus a sidewalk added from the parking lot out to Old
Arlington Heights Road. The school and park donations were taken care of on
the original Mill Creek annexation. Roofs, windows, shutters and building
maintenance including hallways are part of the condominium association
assessments.
He then reviewed the landscaping plan. They are not in favor of using Mill
Creek Drive for primary access. They prefer their own private access. There
is approximately 70' separation between the drive and the buildings. They
will meet with the Mill Creek Condominium Association. The minimum distance
from the back of the units to the parking lot is four to five feet. The
buildings should now sell for approximately $265,000.00. Association fees
would be $700 per month per building. They are planning on putting in a fire
lane to the Chrysler property but have not been able to contact Mr. Angelotti
from Chrysler as of this date. Each building's rear will have a mercury
vapor light to illuminate the parking lot. They are directed down. The
fronts of the buildings will have coach lights. They cannot afford to loose
another building. This project would not be economically feasible with that
loss. Build out would be approximately one year.
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Commissioner Goldspiel felt that the 4' building to parking lot distance was
unacceptable. He suggested some possible changes to the plan which would
bring building to building distances closer to compliance.
Staff was directed to give the Commission information regarding the distance
between parking lots and buildings in other locations in the Village with
plans similar to this one.
An unidentified resident felt that this rental property would decrease the
value of his Mill Creek condominium.
Mr. Black was concerned with property values, noise from construction and
length of the build out period of the site.
The Commission concurred that a mix of two and three story buildings with the
same density would be acceptable in order to solve some of the sites
constraints.
CHECKER SQUARE SHOPPING CENTER
Mr. Gold stated the site is located at the northwest corner of Old Checker
and Buffalo Grove Roads. It is composed of 6.44 acres with 372.9' along Old
Checker Road and 756.9' along Buffalo Grove Road. It is zoned B-3. The
adjacent zoning is: to the north R-4 single family, east is the Town Center
or B-5 mixed use, south is B-3, R-4 single family and R-9 multi-family. The
site is basically flat, no trees, and the normal slope of the land is to the
southwest. The proposed plan is for 3 buildings. There is a long "L" shaped
building and two out buildings. The main building is subdivided into 27
stores. The out buildings B and C are 5,160 square feet and 4,075 square
feet respectively. They have a 55' rear yard setback. The minimum front
yard setback is 65' off the property line. There are two main access drives,
one on Buffalo Grove Road and one on Old Checker Road. There are two service
drives at Old Checker Road and Buffalo Grove Road. There is a non mountable
median across from their main Buffalo Grove Road access. There is parking
for 264 cars along the front of Buffalo Grove Road and Old Checker Road.
Along the rear yards they will landscape with a berm 25' deep. Along the
front yards there is a landscaped parkway 12 feet in width. They will have
landscaped islands, peninsulas and plazas in the center. If they provide
landscaped parkways, they will lose parking. They feel they could break up
the long row of parking with landscaping. The total landscaped area is 20.9%
of the site. They will relocate the trash area. At the present time they do
not have any tenants for the out buildings or any specific use for them.
They will abide by the rear building elevation requirements. They will
attract small to medium sized tenants. Since they received the Village
traffic study this evening, they have not had time to study it. The owners
are Howard and Marc Samotny. The detention is off site. It was provided for
in the Vintage subdivision. It will be collected and directed to the 27"
diameter storm sewer off site. One of the projects they have recently
completed is Rollins Plaza at Route 83 and Rollins Roads in Round Lake Beech.
Commissioner Goldspiel was concerned with the use for out buildings B and C
as well as their placement. He would like to see them move up closer to the
street. He did not like the parking area immediately in front of the stores.
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He would like to see more stacking space for the main drive off of Buffalo
Grove Road. The bike path should be connected on this site.
Commissioners Braiman, Rubin and Howard would like to see something other
than a strip shopping center in this location, they were concerned with the
parking and out buildings.
Commissioner Rhodes is not in favor of the service drive across from
Manchester Greens entrance. He feels the parking should be increased. He
would like to know what is going into the out buildings. He is not in favor
of 4 curb cuts. He would like to see another use on this site.
An unidentified resident stated that the property that abuts the back of the
development has standing water after a rain at its property line. The lowest
point of the Vintage lots that abut this is on the property line and there is
a fence at that location.
Mr. Edelstein was concerned with the current level of this center and his
home plus trash container location.
WILLOW STREAM PARK
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that the
Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Willow Stream
Community Park Final Plat dated January 23, 1989 consisting of 2 sheets.
AYES: Goldspiel, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman and Rubin
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Krug and Rosenston
The motion passed 5 - 0.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
Commissioner Braiman suggested the parking for residential buildings which is
presently 1.7 spaces per dewlling unit, be increased and that the ordinance
covering this be reviewed.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Rubin, seconded by Commissioner Howard, and unanimously
carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at
11:03 P.M.
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Respectfully submitted,
athleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
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Barbara Sheldon
Chairman
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