1989-03-22 - Plan Commission - Minutes SPECIAL MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Cherbourg Townhomes - P.U.D. Amendment
Checker Square Shopping Center (Vintage Commercial)
Chevy Chase Business Park East, Unit 1
Mobil Oil (Arlington Heights & Dundee Road
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March 22, 1989
Chairman Sheldon called the special meeting to order at 9:31 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Howard
Mr. Braiman
Mr. Rubin
Mr. Rosenston
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Krug
Also Present: Mr. I. Hernandez, Planner, Cherbourg
Mr. T. Standke, Developer, Cherbourg
Mr. B. Gold, Developer, Checker Square
Mr. E. Hartmann, 514 Cherbourg, Buffalo Grove
Mr. D. Gantz, 550 Cherbourg, Buffalo Grove
Ms. N. Moffert, Lot 610, Cherbourg Development
Ms. J. Ditchman, 604 Cherbourg, Buffalo Grove
Ms. A. Ginelle, 526 Cherbourg, Buffalo Grove
Ms. S. Osgood, Lot 165, Cherbourg
Mr. W. Leroy, 544 Cherbourg
Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee
Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
None
COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Rosenston attended the March 20, 1989 Village Board meeting
where the Town Place development changes were discussed. The site was
referred back to the Commission. The Checker Road Office Center that was
discussed was not referred to the Commission.
CHEVY CHASE BUSINESS PARK EAST, UNIT 1
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that the
Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Plat of
Vacation of Public Structures and Plat of Resubdivision of the Chevy Chase
Business Park East, Unit I, the Plat of Vacation dated January 25, 1989 and
the Plat of Resubdivision dated March 14, 1989.
Discussion:
Mr. Kuenkler stated there is no problem with vacating a street and leaving
another portion of the street that has no access. This plat is in accordance
with the Preliminary Plan, the plat has been reviewed and it complies with
the ordinances and statutes and it closes.
AYES: Goldspiel, Rhodes, Howard, Rubin, Rosenston & Braiman
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Krug
The motion passed 6 - 0.
MOBIL OIL (ARLINGTON HEIGHTS & DUNDEE ROAD
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that the
Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Final Plat of
Mobil's Arlington Heights and Dundee Road Subdivision dated February 13,
1989.
Discussion:
Mr. Kuenkler stated this property was never a subdivision and the Village
requires this to be done. This is an annexed plat. The plat conforms with
the Preliminary Plan, it has been reviewed and it closes.
AYES: Goldspiel, Rhodes, Howard, Rubin, Rosenston & Braiman
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Krug
The motion passed 6 - 0.
CHERBOURG TOWNHOMES P.U.D. AMENDMENT
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that the
Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the amendment of
the P.U.D. and Preliminary Plan in the R-8 District for the Cherbourg
Townhomes as follows: To permit decks to exceed 20% of the rear yard area
on lots fully adjoining open space pursuant to the petitioner's exhibits; the
maximum area of decks on lots granted a variation by this P.U.D. amendment
and for all lots not yet sold (i.e. have not had a real estate closing) shall
be limited to the sizes as stated in Paragraph #2 of Mr. Hernandez letter
dated March 7, 1989 and the deck elevations exhibit presented by the
petitioner. That is to say, Models Bordeau 210 square feet, Chambord 290
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square feet, Dijon 260 square feet, Espirit 345 square feet, Fontaine 340
square feet and Genet 340 square feet.
The Plan Commission further recommends that variations for interior lots and
end-unit lots not fully adjoining common open space areas be heard by the
Zoning Board of Appeals on a case-by-case basis.
The Plan Commission further stipulates that:
1. The Cherbourg Homeowners Association declaration of covenants shall
be amended to incorporate the deck size limits defined by the Plan
Commission.
2. No decks would be built over any easements.
3. No decks would be built in side yards.
4. That being fully open onto the common open space means that the
entire rear yard adjoins open space.
Discussion:
The motion was amended by Commissioner Braiman with both Commissioners
Goldspiel and Rhodes concurring to read "open space means that the entire
rear yard lot is adjacent to open space".
Commissioner Rhodes feels the homeowners will watch the development of the
extended decks very closely and make sure that everyone has an equitable part
in this process.
Mr. Raysa defined the Zoning Board of Appeal's authority for the audience.
AYES: Goldspiel, Rhodes, Howard, Rubin, Rosenston & Braiman
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Krug
The motion passed 6 - 0.
CHECKER SQUARE - (VINTAGE COMMERCIAL)
Mr. Gold stated that since the last workshop they have:
1. Moved outlots for Buildings B and C forward to the front yard.
There is a minimum of 25' landscaped strip in front of the outlots.
2. Eliminated the service drive at Checker Road.
3. The main entrance drive along Buffalo Grove Road has more
landscaped area to increase stacking for cars.
4. Eliminated the parking behind Building A and the south end of the
large building.
5. There is no parking directly in front of the building on the north
end of the site.
6. Removed the refuse structure from the rear yard and combined it in
the back of the building.
7. There is now space to park 277 cars.
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The building area overall remains the same. The present owners of the site
want to build a shopping center. They do not have any tenants for the outlot
buildings. They have submitted their preliminary plan to Lake County
Division of Transportation for preliminary review. They are not asking for
any variations. The HVAC screening will conform to the ordinance.
Mr. Pfeil stated that if the outlots were restaurants the parking would be
tight. He noted that Mr. Carmignani, Village Traffic Consultant, felt that
if the median on Buffalo Grove Road could be opened he would recommend the
entrance be moved 100' to the north.Mr. Carmignani strongly recommends that
the entrance be restricted to right-in/right-out if it remains in the present
location.
Commissioner Rhodes was concerned with the north bound traffic on Buffalo
Grove Road trying to enter the center.
Commissioner Braiman would like to see the HVAC screened from the residential.
He was concerned with this use.
Commissioner Goldspiel would like the sidewalk on Checker widened to 8' .
Commissioner Rosenston was concerned with the traffic problem on Buffalo
Grove Road as proposed by the Village traffic consultant.
Commissioner Rubin questionned if the developer had considered alternate B-3
uses. The developer stated he had not and did not intend to.
Commissioner Rubin noted at the Vintage Sales Office the subject area was
designated as an office building.
Chairman Sheldon stated that for the next meeting the Commission would like
to see:
1. Renderings of the buildings.
2. Screening of the HVAC, front and back.
3. Lighting of the back of the buildings, making sure it does not flow
over into the residential.
4. The type of landscaping to be used.
5. What road improvements are necessary.
An unidentified resident was concerned with the grading of this site as it
will effect his property.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Braiman, seconded by Commissioner Rubin, and
unanimously carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the
meeting at 11: 10 P.M.
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Respectfully Submitted,
Kathleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
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Barbara Sheldon
Chairman
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PUBLIC HEARING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Cherbourg Townhomes
March 22, 1989
Chairman Sheldon called the public hearing to order at 7:32 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Howard
Mr. Braiman
Mr. Rubin - arrived at 8: 13 P.M.
Mr. Rosenston
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Krug
Also Present: Mr. I. Hernandez, Planner
Mr. T. Standke, Developer
Mr. E. Hartmann, 514 Cherbourg, Buffalo Grove
Mr. D. Gantz, 550 Cherbourg, Buffalo Grove
Ms. N. Moffert, Lot 610, Cherbourg Development
Ms. J. Ditchman, 604 Cherbourg, Buffalo Grove
Ms. A. Ginelle, 526 Cherbourg, Buffalo Grove
Ms. S. Osgood, Lot 165, Cherbourg
Mr. W. Leroy, 544 Cherbourg
Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee
Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner
Chairman Sheldon read the notice of the public hearing as published in the
Buffalo Grove Herald and informed the audience of the format the meeting
would take. She then swore in Messrs. Hernandez and Standke
The exhibits were those contained in Mr. Pfeil's memo to the Plan Commission
dated March 17, 1989 titled Cherbourg Townhomes and Petitioner's Exhibits 1
through 4.
Mr. Hernandez reviewed his March 7, 1989 letter to Mrs. Sheldon and a memo to
Mrs. Sheldon dated March 22, 1989. He stated every end unit, with an open
side yard, is at a minimum 15' wider than an interior unit of the same home
type. Therefore, it is a larger lot and less likelihood of encroachment on
another lot.
Commissioner Rubin arrived.
Mr. Hernandez noted they would build an extended deck on a side yard as long
as the total area does not exceed the allotted amount. Owners are restricted
to build the developer's deck configuration for an extended deck if they
choose to do it themselves. Pulte's exhibits submitted prior to the public
hearing proposes optional decks ranging in size from 210 square feet to 345
square feet. For every lot in Cherbourg, the townhome model and optional
deck size is listed on the table submitted by Mr. Hernandez. During the
meeting he asked to deviate from this table by allowing optional decks for
some lots to be larger than what is listed on the table. This deviation was
porposed for lots that do not need a variation of the 20% rear yard coverage
standard of the Zoning Ordinance.
Mr. Standke testified that their purchasers are showing a great interest in
building extended decks.
Mr. Kuenkler stated that extending the area of the decks would not have any
significant effect on the detention area requirements.
Commissioner Braiman was concerned with the end lots.
Mr. Pfeil stated that the developer proposes to allow decks of up to 345
square feet for lots that do not need a zoning variation under the proposed
amendment of this evening. The exhibits that are marked specify an optional
deck size for each townhome model. Mr. Pfeil explained that Pulte had agreed
to limit optional deck sizes from 210 square feet to 345 square feet
depending on the townhome model. This limitation was represented as a way to
achieve a uniform design for decks in the development and to be equitable in
that every owner of a specific townhome model would be able to have the same
size optional deck. Pulte is now suggesting that optional deck sizes should
be allowed to be larger in cases where the 20% rear lot coverage standard
would not be exceeded, but the maximum deck area could be limited to 345
square feet.
Trustee Reid felt the letter dated March 22, 1989, submitted at this meeting
regarding the 345' decks was not in accordance with what was published for
the public hearing.
Mr. Hartmann would like permission to build an extended deck and feels these
extended decks would not harm the appearance of the development.
Mr. Gantz agreed with Mr. Hartmann.
Ms. Moffert felt there were very few units that would have to go before the
Zoning Board of Appeals to increase the size of their decks.
Ms. Ditchman felt Pulte was trying to establish guidelines for the decks in
accordance with their declarations.
Ms. Ginelle felt that Pulte is trying to present what the residents want.
Commissioner Rubin felt the Village should not be restricting the deck size
for units that don't require a zoning variation. Decks not needing a
variation should go before a homeowners association, provided the Zoning
Ordinance standards are met.
Ms. Osgood felt that Pulte should limit the decks to 345' .
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Mr. Leroy wished to build his extended deck in accordance with the present
provisions.
Chairman Sheldon closed the public hearing at 9: 18 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
Barbara Sheldon
Chairman
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