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1989-07-05 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION 3419 Betty Drive Child Care Zoning Ordinance Amendment Asbury Drive, First Resubdivision July 5, 1989 Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 7:31 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug Mr. Rhodes Ms. Howard Mr. Braiman Mr. Rubin Mr. Rosenston Mr. Charlette Commissioners Absent: None Also Present: Mrs. Mitchell, Owner of 3419 Betty Drive Mr. & Mrs. W. Berth, Contract Purchasers of 3419 Betty Drive Mr. & Mrs. Kozlowski, 605 S. Patten, B.G. Mr. & Mrs. W. Rothblum, 1128 Gail Drive B.G. Ms. B. Lebinic, 730 McArthur Dr. , B.G. Mr. Mr. & Mrs. Ho, 726 Hapsfield, B.G. Ms. P. LaSpina, 325 Circle B.G. Ms. S. Fleming, 2423 N. Kennicott Dr. , B.G. Ms. A. Sherlin, Albright Ct. , Vernon Hills Ms. J. Homes, 974 Whitehall Dr. , B.G. Mr. R. Hauseliner, 615 Patton B.G. Mr. E. Vackicev, 959 Patton Dr. , B.G. Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Rosenston, seconded by Commissioner Charlette, to approve the Public Hearing and Regular Meeting minutes of June 21, 1989. Approval was unanimous in favor with Commissioners Goldspiel, Krug and Rhodes abstaining and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Rosenston, seconded by Commissioner Charlette, to approve the Public Hearing and Regular Meeting minutes of June 7, 1989. Approval was unanimous in favor with Commissioners Krug and Rhodes abstaining and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Charlette, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes, to approve the Public Hearing Meeting minutes of May 17, 1989. Approval was unanimous in favor with Commissioners Krug and Rosenston abstaining and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Charlette, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes, to approve the Special Meeting minutes of May 10, 1989. Approval was unanimous in favor with Commissioners Krug and Rosenston abstaining and the motion passed. COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS Commissioner Rubin attended the June 26, 1989 Village Board meeting where the following was referred to the Plan Commission: 1. Strathmore Shopping Center Fence 2. Home Child Care Centers 3. Parking RV's etc. , in residential areas 4. Housing and property maintenance standards 5. Arlington Toyota New building and expansion. Commissioner Rubin passed out a copy of his Village board packet with comments for the Commission. 3419 NORTH BETTY DRIVE Mr. Berth stated the site is at the southeast corner of Dundee Road and Betty Drive. It is currently zoned single family residential under Cook County zoning. They would like to purchase the existing residential and convert it to a Century 21 Real Estate office. Commercial zoning is requested, which would be consistent with adjacent business uses. They will keep the residential character of the property. They are proposing to use the existing structure with out any changes to the front yard with the exception of adding a sidewalk. They would like to have as many parking spaces as they have proposed, 25 spaces. Their office has a total of 20 agents, who are not all in at the same time. They also offer pre-licensing classes in real estate on Sunday morning's from 9:00 A.M. until 1:00 P.M. The classes run between 15 and 20 students. They do not plan to add any other business in their office other than a real estate and school. They do not want to be restricted from adding an attorney or CPA to their office. They could use all the building space themselves. They are aware they will have to do something about water retention. The walnut tree in the back yard cannot be preserved as it is in the middle of their proposed parking lot. It is a very old tree. Mrs. Berth stated the other businesses in the location across from their proposed site on the west park on the street and could utilize their extra parking spaces. They are willing to work with the Village on the preservation of the tree. Mr. Berth stated they are asking for a 2' variation in the aisle width in the parking lot. This is not going to be a busy parking lot. The building has Buffalo Grove Plan Commission-Regular Meeting-July 5 , 1989-Page 2 not been inspected by the Village yet to see if it meets all the Village codes. It is not connected to the Village sewer and water but they will hook up. They are not aware of the full cost for this. The adjacent residential has a side yard with a long lot because they are hooked up to well and septic. They will look into screening between their site and the adjacent property. The building is 28 years old. They would probably use the garage and the square footage including the garage they have 2,400 square feet. They will have a landscaper look at the property . Mr. Pfeil will see if Betty Drive will have to be improved because of this site. The B-3 zoning allows the Village to be more restrictive in use. The petitioners were agreeable to that zoning. Commissioner Goldspiel suggested one way circulation in the parking lot could possibly improve the driveway width problem. PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT CHILD CARE IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT Mr. Pfeil stated many of the surrounding communities allow 8 children in a day care home, but it is regulated. The state allows 8 children total including those that reside in the home. There are State regulations for home child care as set forth in the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services, Text of Adopted Rules, Subchapter e, §part 406, March 1, 1985. Chairman Sheldon explained the format the meeting would take for the audience, noting that they would have time to speak. Commissioner Braiman stated that Rolling Meadows' ordinance both protects the village and neighbors near a child care business. He felt this business is needed in Buffalo Grove but would like to see something adopted along the lines of Rolling Meadows ordinance incorporating the State regulations as well. Commissioner Goldspiel felt that 8 children was a large number for a residential zone. Commissioner Krug also felt that 8 children was excessive in a residential neighborhood. He felt that possibly the building codes would have to be looked into because of a safety problem. He felt that if all 8 children were infants, one person could not handle all 8 and if someone was hired to help, this would not be a home business according to Buffalo Grove's ordinance. Commissioner Rosenston agreed that 8 children was an excessive amount in a residential neighborhood. He was concerned about help, traffic, noise and safety. Commissioner Charlette felt 8 was a large number of children. He was concerned how this effects the care providers insurance. Mr. Kozlowski stated child care does not effect the homeowner's insurance but his wife, who operates a child care facility has an optional policy to cover this area. The State does not require but strongly recommends this insurance. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission-Regular Meeting-July 5, 1989-Page 3 Commissioner Howard could sympathize with mothers looking for good child care. Her concern was with one person taking care of 8 children and the ages of the children to be cared for. Commissioner Rhodes was concerned with the residents of the area near the day care center and the parking drop off and safety. Commissioner Rubin felt you could not simultaneously comply with the State and Buffalo Grove's ordinance. Buffalo Grove does not allow home occupation's to carried outside of the building, the State requires a playground. He was concerned with enforcement of an ordinance like Rolling Meadows' (Rolling Meadows Code, Division 9) if adopted. The surrounding residents of the day care center was another concern. Ms. Kozlowski stated she could take care of more than 8 children. Her peak period is after school when children come to her home. This lasts for an hour or hour and a half. Parents come and go at different times and only stay long enough to pick up their children. Mr. Rothblum was concerned about the process this item was to take. Ms. Lebinic has children in the morning and after school in her home day care. She is open from 7:00 A.M. until 5:30 P.M. There is no problem with 8 children. She owns a van and takes the children to parks and other locations. She has additional insurance to cover this day care. Mr. Vackicev read his May 11, 1989 letter to Mr. James Sylverne. He stated he has lived in his home for two years and was not aware that there was a child care center next to him when he purchased his home. He would not have purchased his home had he known this at that time. He asked what the requirements for the State were regarding child care. Mr. Pfeil will provide him with these. Ms. Ho uses Mrs. Kozlowski and is happy with her. She drops off her children at 7:00 A.M. and picks them up at 6:15 P.M. She only stays one or two minutes to pick them up. She felt 8 children in the day care home would not be a problem. I Mr. Ho was satisfied with Mrs. Kozlowski's service. Ms. LaSpina stated that traffic fluctuates at her home care center. She felt that the Commission should be concerned with what is good for the children. She chose home day care center over commercial because of the environment. Ms. Fleming also chose a home day care center for the environment. Ms. Cunningham has received no complaints in the time she has run her center. She has 8 children including 2 of her own, for the past 4 years. Mr. Pfeil will provide the Commission with the number of day care licenses, both residential and commercial, in Buffalo Grove for the next meeting. Mr. Hauseliner preferred home day care. His son gets to the sitter after school via the school bus. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission-Regular Meeting-July 5, 1989-Page 4 Mr. Sherman stated the Commission should concern itself with zoning. He was not in favor of 8 children in a child care home. Two or three would be what he would propose. If the Village should decide to increase the permitted use of children, he asked that the Village should require neighbors within a certain range sign off an approval for this center. He felt a special use should be created for this home business and it should be reviewed at periodic times. Ms. Brodert wished to know if the 3 licensed child care centers in the Village have had any complaints against them. Ms. Sherlin stated there are worse things in a home business than child care. Ms. Rothblum stated parents provide supervision of the children in home day care. Ms. Homes chose home day care because of the environment. Mr. Hauseliner favored home day care and does not have a problem with a center which operates next to him. He knew this facility was there when he moved in. He does not use their service. Commissioner Goldspiel suggested that the Commission consider the following items pertaining to this issue. 1. Whether the number of children be increased from 3 to what number of children allowed in a center. 2. Whether children that are residents in the home care center counted in this number and counted up to what age. 3. Whether this should be a special use procedure or regulated some other way. ASBURY DRIVE, FIRST RESUBDIVISION-FINAL PLAT Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Braiman that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the First Resubdivision of Asbury Drive in accordance with the document dated June 5, 1989. Commissioner Goldspiel amended his motion with Commissioner Braiman concurring to state " subject to: 1. Review of the lot width requirement for this development. 2. Review by the Village engineer for driveway access." AYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Rubin, Rosenston and Charlette NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: None The motion passed unanimously. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission-Regular Meeting-July 5 , 1989-Page 5 FUTURE AGENDA The July 19 meeting will be workshops for an annexation with an R-2 zoning in Prairie View and Arlington Toyota. ADJOURNMENT Moved byCommissioner Rosenston, seconded byCommissioner Howard, and unanimously carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at P.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Barbara Sheldon Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission-Regular Meeting-July 6, 1989-Page 6