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1989-09-20 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Arlington Toyota Day Care Ordinance September 20, 1989 Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 9:06 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug Mr. Rhodes Ms. Howard Mr. Braiman Mr. Rubin Mr. Rosenston Mr. Charlette Commissioners Absent: None Also Present: Mr. Jostes, Project Coordinator, Arlington Toyota Mr. Jaydos, Architect, Arlington Toyota Mr. M. Elbrecht, Developer, Arlington Toyota Mr. M. Biederwolf, Village Engineer Mr. G. Glover, Village Trustee Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Charlette, to approve the Regular Meeting minutes of September 6, 1989 as amended. Approval was unanimous in favor and the motion passed. COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS Commissioner Rhodes attended the September 18, 1989 Village Board meeting and the following items were discussed: 1. The Knopf Subdivision was approved. 2. Commissioner O'Malley brought up the subject of the Mormon Church and the direction the Plan Commission should take. It was agreed that plans should be submitted for the 21 acre site for R-5 and R-4 zoning with a broad sketch of what could be built there. 3. The item of political signs were discussed. 4. The commercial survey was discussed. DAY CARE ORDINANCE Mr. Pfeil reviewed his memo to the Plan Commission dated September 15, 1989 titled Child Day Care in Residential Districts. He noted that for child care for three or fewer children, the home occupation regulations are proposed to be amended to allow outdoor play in rear yard areas. Trustee Glover asked if someone runs a day care center it is right that he imposes an increased liability in terms of insurance on his neighbors. Commissioner Rubin was concerned with the increased liability for neighbors of a day care. Commissioner Goldspiel was concerned with the increased noise and number of children but not the increased liability. Commissioner Howard felt the Village is over regulating child care. She felt it is important for the children to be able to go outside both in the front and back yards. Commissioner Braiman felt children in day care should be in the home or in the back yard. Mr. Raysa reworded Section B 1. to read "Where day care is provided an outdoor play area is permitted. Outdoor play should be in the yard and shall be supervised. Children shall not leave the day care providers property unless supervised." The Commission was polled if a play area should be permitted in other areas than the rear yard. Ayes: Howard, Rubin, Rosenston, Charlette Nayes: Goldspiel, Krug, Rhodes, Braiman and Sheldon Commissioner Goldspiel stated that if the Village allows 8 children in home day care some provision should be made for employees. Commissioner Braiman pointed out several text changes to the ordinance. Mr. Raysa brought up the question of how to best license the special use day care people. He stated penalties need to be contained in the ordinance in answer to Commissioner Rosenston. ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Howard, and unanimously carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at 10:45 P.M. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Regular Meeting - September 20, 1989 - Page 2 Respectfully submitted, Kathleen omer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: a)7V--XL--+ Barbara Sheldon Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Regular Meeting - September 20, 1989 - Page 3 PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION 1 Arlington Toyota September 20, 1989 Chairman Sheldon called the public hearing to order at 7:30 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug Mr. Rhodes Ms. Howard j Mr. Braiman Mr. Rubin Mr. Rosenston Mr. Charlette Commissioners Absent: None Also Present: Mr. Jostes, Project Coordinator, Arlington Toyota Mr. Jaydos, Architect, Arlington Toyota Mr. M. Elbrecht, Arlington Toyota Mr. G. Glover, Village Trustee Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. M. Biederwolf, Village Engineer Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner Chairman Sheldon read the notice of the public hearing as published in the Buffalo Grove Herald and informed the audience of the format the meeting would take. She then swore in Messrs. Jostes, Jaydos and Elbrecht. 1 The exhibits were those contained in Mr. Pfeil's memo to the Plan Commission dated September 15, 1989 titled Arlington Toyota-New Building and Addition and Petitioner's Exhibits I, II, III a and B and IV. Mr. Jostes reviewed the changes to the plan: 1. Added trees to the plan, the green space on the west side shows trees and shrubs plus additional trees in between the existing landscape to provide a barrier. 2. Changed the face of the building on Dundee. It will have fluted brick on the bottom portion and the top portion of the building will be metal. The building is 20' high and the fluted brick will come up about 12' . The body shop will have fluted block on the west and north walls. 3. They have added landscaping on the west side of the body shop as well as the west building wall of the body shop. The service addition is higher than the existing building. The roof of the service area that was below the show room will be higher than the show room when the edition is complete. There are leaving the area behind the buildings gravel. They do not intend to use it for parking. Mr. Pfeil noted that if cars were going to be stored in the gravel areas they would have to be paved. Mr. Biederwolf stated that in 1974 the developer approached the MSD for a permit for the detention of the entire site. This plan doesn't change those figures. Mr. Jostes stated the driveway to Old Arlington Heights Road will have a stop sign and they will identify it on the plan. One of the reasons for the addition is to put in a parts storage area, which is what Toyota requires. Mr. Jaydos stated the owner has a basement storage area but it does not operate as efficiently as the proposed addition. Between the parts department there is a wash rack and parts service. The only way to increase their space is to put in the second floor. Otherwise they have to go out into the parking lot which would take up valuable parking space. They are willing to consider another material on the north side of the service building rather than metal. Mr. Jostes suggested Dryvit as an alternative. They could have the entire north elevation in Dryvit. He has no problems with guaranteeing the height of the building. The service building will be 24 feet in height, but the roof needs a slope which could be 8 inches or 9 inches, so the height at the peak would be 24 feet, 9 inches. The service building will be 24 feet in height. Mr. Jaydos stated that the metal building is a pre-built building and they do not know the exact dimensions until the manufacturer tells them. Commissioner Rubin was concerned that the service building in back will be viewed from the front of the lot along the street. Commissioner Rhodes concurred with Commissioner Rubin regarding the height of the building. Commissioner Howard was concerned with the height of the building also. Commissioner Charlette liked the plan. Commissioner Goldspiel felt the height of the roof facing Dundee is the problem. He did not like the metal material either. Commissioner Rosenston was concerned with the 24' building height instead of 16' and a solid metal wall. He stated the new elevation if 8' higher than the existing roof. The peak of the roof to the ground is 26'. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Public Hearing - September 20, 1989 - Page 2 Mr. Raysa asked if the plan A-3 is scaled. Mr. Pfeil stated it is scaled to the architectural scale. The west elevation is 25 feet. Mr. Raysa stated there is no parking of vehicles south of the black top currently marked service vehicles. Mr. Elbrecht stated if they need additional parking they will pave the gravel area. Mr. Jostes stated they agree to change the label from "service vehicles" to "future vehicle parking". There are no roof top mechanicals. There will be no roof top equipment. Mr. Elbrecht stated the dumpsters will be in the back. Moved by Commissioner Krug, seconded by Commissioner Charlette that the Public Hearing be continued to a time when the petitioner can give the Plan Commission dimensions on the plan, location of the trash areas and how they will be screened. The petitioner will re-submit the site plan and building elevation sheets with all revisions and dimensions. Ayes: Krug, Howard, Braiman, Rubin, Rosenston and Charlette Nayes: Goldspiel and Rhodes Abstain: None The motion passed 6 - 2. There will be a special meeting on this hearing on Wednesday September 27, 1989. Chairman Sheldon closed the public hearing at 8:55 P.M. Respectfully submitted, 1-4(f Kathleen Gilmer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: 4?,e;UAdC... 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