1994-10-19 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
October 19, 1994
Wisconsin Central - Metra Commuter Rail Station and Parking
Area, Lot 49 (part) Covington Corporate Center and adjacent
Commonwealth Edison property, Commerce Court south of Busch
Parkway - Approval of a Preliminary Plan and Special Use in
the Industrial District
Chairman Silbernik called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
in the Village Council Chambers, Buffalo Grove Municipal
Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Chairman Silbernik read the Notice of Public Hearing as
published in the Buffalo Grove Daily Herald, explained the
procedure to be followed for the public hearing, and swore in
all persons who wished to give testimony.
Commissioners present: Chairman Silbernik
Mr. Goldspiel
Ms. Howard
Mr. Samuels
Mr. Berman
Mr. Moons
Commissioners absent: Mr. Krug
Mr. Rosenston
Also present: Mr. Lee Szymborski, Assistant Village
Manager
Mr. Don Matthews, Gewalt-Hamilton
Associates
Mr. Larry Kahn, Bernheim, Kahn and
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Mr. Ken Lattanzi, MTI Construction
Mr. William Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. Richard Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
The following exhibits were presented by the petitioner at
the public hearing:
Exhibit 1: Preliminary Plan including site engineering
(Sheets C-1, C-2, C-3 ) dated September 27 , 1994
by Gewalt-Hamilton Associates
Exhibit 2: Floor plan (Sheets Al and A1S) dated September
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29, 1994 by Bernheim Kahn and Elisco
Exhibit 3: Building elevation (Sheet A2) dated September 29,
1994 by Bernheim Kahn and Elisco
Exhibit 4: Landscape Plan (Sheet C-4) dated September 30,
1994 the Klaus Schmechtig Co.
Exhibit 5: Landscape Plan - Detail around station building
Mr. Szymborski stated that the Village is petitioning for a
Special Use in the Industrial District and approval of a
Preliminary Plan in order to construct a train station and
parking area as part of the Metra plan to establish commuter
rail service on the Wisconsin Central Railroad by April,
1996. He noted that the site for the station is the part of
Lot 49 in Covington Corporate Center owned by the Village,
directly south of the Pace Park and Ride bus facility. He
explained that the station building will have a floor area of
1, 120 square feet and meets all Metra criteria. He said that
the size of the station actually exceeds Metra standards
based on the projected number of boardings.
Mr. Szymborski noted that the proposed parking includes 357
new spaces and 95 existing spaces on the Pace property, for a
total of 452 spaces for the initial project. He commented
that Metra's projections for the year 2010 indicate 500
boardings per day, and 450 spaces are adequate for this
number of boardings. He indicated that since most of the
proposed spaces are on the Commonwealth Edison property, the
Village will negotiate a long-term lease with Com Ed.
Mr. Szymborski noted that 25 percent of the spaces will be
reserved for Buffalo Grove residents, and this is the largest
reservation that Metra would allow, pursuant to the agreement
that nine towns and Metra entered into as part of the
commuter train service program. He explained that Metra has
had a great deal of experience with situations involving
reserved parking for residents in some towns, and Metra wants
to avoid the problems that some commuters face when non-
resident parking is not adequate. He noted that the Wisconsin
Central line is a new service, and Metra wants to ensure that
all commuters using the line have access to parking. He
commented that both Federal and State funds are used on Metra
commuter facilities and there are restrictions concerning
designation of resident only parking. He noted that Metra
originally wanted to have no reservations for resident only
parking, and the 25 percent allocation was the result of
negotiations that required Buffalo Grove to construct enough
parking to meet the 2010 projection for boardings. Also, no
Federal or State funds can be used on the parking lot
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construction.
Mr. Matthews reviewed Exhibit 1 and noted that the plan
provides for an additional 200 spaces to be built on the Com
Ed property south of the initial parking lot. He explained
that Com Ed has standards pertaining to the height of light
poles and landscaping, and 14 feet is the maximum height that
Com Ed will allow on its property. Also, Com Ed will not
allow curbing for landscaped islands in the parking lot,
although a six-inch curb will be requested and may be allowed
to separate the automobile travel lane from an adjacent
bikepath.
Mr. Matthews reviewed the traffic circulation into and out of
the proposed parking lot, noting that one new curb cut to
Commerce Court is proposed, and the new lot will connect to
the Pace lot. He said that improvements will be made to the
Commerce Court/Busch Parkway intersection by adding a traffic
signal, and this signal will be interconnected with gates on
the railroad crossing. He noted that bikepaths and sidewalks
will be flared at intersections to provide for safer and more
convenient use.
Mr. Matthews commented that although lighting will be on 14-
foot poles in the parking lot, poles of 30 feet will be used
near the station. He pointed out the plan provides for a
taxi-cab waiting area and locations for fare collection boxes
are provided.
Mr. Matthews explained that the station will be connected to
the Village' s sanitary sewer and water lines. He noted that
stormwater drainage will be directed into existing ponds in
the Covington Corporate Center, and these ponds have been
analyzed to verify that the additional flow can be
accommodated. He indicated that flow from the ditch along the
railroad tracks may be captured and directed into the pond
system. When the additional parking area is constructed,
additional stormwater storage will need to be provided.
Mr. Kahn reviewed Exhibits 2 and 3 concerning the plan and
elevations for the station building. He noted that the
station will have an area of 1, 120 square feet and will have
1 restroom facilities. A ticket agent area and an additional
bathroom are planned to meet future needs. He said that
benches will be provided inside the station. He pointed out
the paver brick sidewalks that will be provided around the
outside of the building.
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Mr. Kahn explained that the exterior of the building will be
masonry, and a cement shingle roof will be used. He commented
that a clock tower is planned on the roof. He noted that the
eaves of the roof will provide shelter for people waiting
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outside the building, and exterior walls will be painted for
efficient cleaning if graffiti occurs. He said that the
windows have been designed to allow inspection from the
outside by security personnel.
Mr. Schwarz reviewed Exhibits 4 and 5 concerning landscaping.
He explained that the landscaping attempts to enhance the
street view of the site by using landscaping such as
flowering crabs that have been planted on adjacent
properties. He noted that other plants such as Amur maple
will be used near the parking area, and all of the plant
selections are species that are tolerant of drought, salt and
insects. He said that green ash will be used closer to the
station to provide softer views toward the railroad tracks
and adjacent industrial buildings. Hawthorns will be planted
near the shelter and platform.
Mr. Schwarz reviewed the landscaping planned around the
station building as depicted on Exhibit 5. He said that the
plantings would include Austrian pine and white ash rather
than locust. He noted that the plantings will be used to
produce a balance appearance for the building. He said that
Japanese lilacs will be planted to frame the entry of the
building and to guide people to the sidewalk areas.
Mr. Szymborski noted that the line of site to the station
building from Busch Parkway was a concern raised at the
workshop on October 5, 1994. He said that the project team
had reviewed the line of sight, and the station building will
not be visible from Busch Parkway. He said that in order to
identify the location of the station, the Village will work
with Pace and Metra on a sign along Busch Parkway that will
direct people to the bus and train facilities.
Mr. Szymborski reviewed the six criteria in the Zoning
Ordinance concerning a Special Use. He commented that the
facility will provide for the public convenience, it will be
in harmony with the area and the Village's Comprehensive
Plan, it will not be injurious to adjacent properties, it
will not impede development in the area, adequate utilities,
access, drainage and parking will be provided, and no traffic
hazards will be created.
Commissioner Goldspiel inquired if the station building could
be moved to the north.
Mr. Szymborski indicated that Metra had studied this idea
with Pace, and the proposed location is as far north as the
building can be located to provide adequate room for the
trains to stop without blocking Busch Parkway.
Commissioner Goldspiel suggested that more benches be placed
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along the platform near the tracks. He noted that it is very
important that an entry monument be located on Busch Parkway
to identify the location of the station. He inquired if the
bikepaths will be adequately protected from the vehicular
access road.
Mr. Matthews noted that a six-inch curb will be used to
separate the bikepath from the access roads.
Commissioner Goldspiel inquired how drainage from the ditch
along the railroad tracks will be handled.
Mr. Matthews replied that this drainage will be directed into
the pond on Lot 49 of the Covington Corporate Center.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked if overland drainage from the
site would create a marshy area south of the site.
Mr. Matthews indicated that very little flow will leave the
site overland, and it will have a minimal impact on adjacent
properties. He noted that by capturing some of the currently
unrestricted flow from the ditch along the tracks, overall
flow from the site is being accommodated, and adjacent
properties will not be affected.
Commissioner Goldspiel stated that in his opinion no parking
should be reserved, and the 25 percent allocation will be
more than adequate to meet the demand of Village residents.
He commented that it would not be a good situation to have
empty reserved spaces and not enough spaces for non-
residents.
Commissioner Howard commented that the landscaping planned
for the station building will be very attractive.
Commissioner Samuels said that he still thinks it would be a
good idea to provide heating for persons waiting under the
1 eaves of the building, but this heating should be properly
designed as part of the building, not heaters hanging from
the eaves.
Commissioner Berman inquired if the cost of maintaining the
station building and parking area has been projected.
Mr. Szymborski said these costs have not been determined, but
in concept parking fees are intended to cover maintenance
costs.
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Commissioner Berman asked if there are storm sewer inlets in
the parking area on the Com Ed property, and if the parking
lot will be sloped to provide good drainage.
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Mr. Matthews indicated that inlets are provided, and they are
depicted on Sheet C-3 of Exhibit 1. He said the parking lot
will be properly sloped to provide positive drainage toward
the inlets to the storm sewer system.
Commissioner Moons inquired if it would be a good idea to add
a sidewalk along the edge of the pond on Lot 49 adjacent to
the parking lot.
Mr. Szymborski commented that staff had studied this idea,
and the conclusion was that people would probably walk
through the parking lot toward the station rather than cross
the access road to get to the sidewalk.
Commissioner Moons asked if the doors proposed for the
station will accommodate the flow of people that will using
the building.
Mr. Kahn said that the building and doors are large enough to
handle the traffic from the passengers projected for 2010.
Chairman Silbernik inquired if the windows facing the parking
lot are large enough to permit monitoring by the police.
Mr. Kahn said that the windows are sized and located to
provide for other building elements such as mechanical, and
the windows can't be enlarged or relocated substantially.
Chairman Silbernik asked about the basis of Metra's
projections for boardings at Buffalo Grove.
Mr. Szymborski indicated that a study done by R.L. Banks in
1986 has been updated by Metra with recent demographic
information.
Chairman Silbernik expressed concern that Metra's projection
is too low for Buffalo Grove, and that perhaps the amount of
parking will not be adequate. He asked if thought has been
given to storage areas for snow from the parking lot.
Mr. Szymborski said that snow removal is already handled by
the Village for the Pace lot without any storage problems,
and a plan will be developed for removal and storage of snow
from the new parking area.
Commissioner Goldspiel commented that projections for
boardings at communities along the Wisconsin Central line go
back 15 years. He noted that service will be limited to three
trains, and demand will not exceed the amount of parking
being proposed. He said that the Buffalo Grove facility will
not be underparked, and if anything, there may be a surplus
of parking until the service is firmly established. He noted
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that currently only a single track is in place, and this
limits the expansion of service.
Commissioner Samuels inquired if Pace will continue to
provide bus service from the Deerfield and Arlington Heights
station to the Buffalo Grove station to serve commuters who
want to take a later train than what will be available to the
Buffalo Grove station.
Mr. Szymborski said that Pace is studying the types of
service that may be needed for the Buffalo Grove facility.
Commissioner Berman asked if the planned future parking could
be built as part of the initial project.
Mr. Szymborski said that the project budget is designed to
meet the 2010 projection, so an adjustment to the budget
would be needed to build more parking.
Commissioner Berman noted that it is possibly a self-limiting
situation that if parking is not adequate initially, then
commuters will not use the Buffalo Grove station, and
increased demand for service will not occur.
Anita Fasano, 871 Ridgefield, asked if there is another
street access to the facility in addition to the intersection
at Busch Parkway. She noted that traffic is already backed up
on Busch Parkway, and people parked at the facility on
Commerce Court will have difficulty getting on to Busch
Parkway.
Mr. Matthews noted that the intersection will be signalized,
so traffic from Commerce Court will have an opportunity to
enter Busch Parkway safely. He noted that Commerce Court has
designated turn lanes, and this allows traffic to turn east
or west.
Mr. Alex Olsansky said that he lives south of the proposed
parking lot, and he is concerned about storm sewer run off.
He stated that he does not have any flooding problems now,
and he would not want problems created by drainage from this
facility. He asked what legal recourse he would have if
drainage affects his property.
Mr. Raysa stated that if a property owner is detrimentally
affected by another property owner, there are grounds for
legal action.
Mr. Olsansky inquired about the location of the reserved
parking.
Mr. Szymborski replied that although an exact location has
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not been determined, the reserved parking will be relatively
close to the station.
Mr. Olsansky said that the 1986 study is too old to be useful
in making projections about boardings and parking demand.
Mr. Szymborski explained that the R.L. Banks study was used
for background information; Metra has updated these
projections.
Mr. Olsansky asked if the parking will be on a fee basis, and
if Pace would also charge a fee.
Mr. Szymborski said that a fee will be charged for parking,
and Pace will use the same fee that is charged for the new
parking.
Tom Fasano, 871 Ridgefield, said he is concerned with the
layout of the landscaping on the west side of the station. He
suggested that the walkways be adjusted so that commuters
will not walk on landscaped areas.
Roland Berg, 1367 Gail Drive, said that the landscaping on
the west side of the station will block the view into the
building.
Mr. Schwarz pointed out that the landscaping near the windows
is a potentilla plant that is only 30 inches high.
Mr. Irwin Berman, 33 Canterbury, asked if parking on
residential neighborhood streets near the station will be
restricted to prohibit commuters parking.
Mr. Grossman, 710 Twisted Oak, said that the 25 percent cap
on resident only parking is unfair, and other communities
have a much higher percentage of restricted parking for their
residents.
Ms. Marla Cohen, 768 St. Mary's Parkway, commented that Long
Grove, Riverwoods, Lincolnshire, and Hawthorn Woods have all
historically impeded transportation improvements in the
region, and she said it would be very unfair for residents of
these communities to be able to park at Buffalo Grove's Metra
facility and deny Buffalo Grove residents adequate parking.
She said that expenditure of money by Buffalo Grove to build
commuter parking should benefit Buffalo Grove residents.
Mr. Jerry Gothelf, 791 Silver Rock, asked if other villages
on existing Metra lines have been told to reduce the amount
of resident only parking to the 25 percent level that is
being used at Buffalo Grove' s facility.
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Mr. Szymborski said that Metra will discuss this issue with
communities as agreements come up for renewal. He noted that
the Wisconsin Central line is the first new rail service in
the region in 70 years, so Metra has been very careful to
address problems that have historically occurred on older
commuter lines.
Mr. Lee Cohen, 768 St. Mary's Parkway, inquired if the 25
percent cap on reserved spaces is firm and unable to be
changed.
Mr. Szymborski explained that the agreement with Metra
involved nine communities, and the other communities do not
have reserved parking. It was a major concession by Metra to
grant Buffalo Grove any reserved parking. He emphasized that
Metra funds are Federal and State dollars that Metra has to
use to benefit all commuters, not just residents of a
particular community.
There being no other comments or questions, Chairman
Silbernik closed the public hearing at 9:30 p. m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Robert E. Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVED BY:
MARTIN SILBERNIK Chairman
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PUBLIC HEARING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
October 19, 1994
Northwest Child Care Center, Jewish Council for Youth
Services, Southwest corner of Aptakisic Road/Weiland Road -
Approval of a Preliminary Plan in a B-1 District
Chairman Silbernik called the meeting to order at 9:35 p.m.
in the Village Council Chambers, Buffalo Grove Municipal
Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Chairman Silbernik read the Notice of Public Hearing as
published in the Buffalo Grove Daily Herald, explained the
procedure to be followed for the public hearing, and swore in
all persons who wished to give testimony.
Commissioners present: Chairman Silbernik
Mr. Goldspiel
Ms. Howard
Mr. Samuels
Mr. Berman
Mr. Moons
Commissioners absent: Mr. Krug
Mr. Rosenston
Also present: Mr. Lawrence M. Freedman, Ash, Anos,
Freedman and Logan
Mr. Marshall Klein, Jewish Council for
Youth Services
Mr. Jeffrey Brown, The JRB Group
Architects
Mr. Jeffrey Marcowitz, Project
Management Advisors
Mr. Gerald Lindgren, Barton-Aschman
Associates
Mr. Robert Givens, Pearson, Brown and
Associates
Mr. William Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. Richard Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
The following exhibits were presented by the petitioner at
the public hearing:
Exhibit 1: Aerial photo of site and surrounding area
Exhibit 2 : Preliminary Plan (Sheets A1. 1 and A1.2) dated
October 5, 1994 by the JRB Group
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Exhibit 3: Revised Preliminary Plan depicting adjustment to
parking lot to provide a turnaround aisle for
emergency vehicles
Exhibit 4: Perspective drawing of building and site
Exhibit 5: Preliminary Engineering Plan dated October 4, 1994
by Pearson, Brown and Associates
Exhibit 6: Building elevations (Sheet A3. 1) dated October 5,
1994 by the JRB Group
Exhibit 7: Building floor plan (Sheet A2. 1) dated October 5,
1994 by the JRB Group
Exhibit 8: Overall Landscape Plan dated October 5, 1994 by
James Martin Associates
Mr. Freedman stated that the property is zoned B-1 and was
approved for a strip shopping center as part of the Old Farm
Village annexation agreement. He said that the proposed
facility is permitted in the B-1 District and would be an
appropriate use for the property. He noted that the project
is planned in two phases - the first phase would be the child
daycare facility and the second phase would be for
construction of an indoor swimming pool and other
recreational facilities.
Mr. Brown reviewed the location of the property on Exhibit 1.
He noted that Phase 1 would be construction of a 24,000
square-foot portion of the building for the child care
center. Phase 2 would increase the total building size to
43,000 square feet, and would include the indoor swimming
pool. He reviewed the parking area as depicted on Exhibit 2,
and stated that 90 spaces would be constructed as part of
Phase 1. He explained that the parking lot has been modified
as shown on Exhibit 3 to provide a turnaround area as
recommended by the Fire Department. He reviewed the
landscaping plan (Exhibit 8) for the west and south lot lines
and the parking area along Aptakisic and Weiland Road. He
noted that the landscaping along the parking area will
include berming two to three feet in height. He commented
that a buffer is being provided adjoining the area to the
south, which is occupied by single-family homes.
Mr. Givens reviewed the engineering plan as
g g shown on Exhibit
5. He indicated the location of storm and sanitary sewer
lines and water lines. He explained that stormwater would be
carried to an offsite basin engineered as part of the Old
Farm Village development plan.
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Mr. Lindgren reviewed the traffic impact and driveway
location of the site. He said that the proposed driveway to
Weiland Road is 35 feet wide, which is the maximum allowed by
Lake County. He said that the a radius of 30 feet is provided
for right turns out of the site, and a radius of 20 feet is
provided for right turns in. He noted that the Village's
traffic consultant recommends a driveway width that would
exceed Lake County's standard by 14 feet. He suggested that
instead of widening the driveway, it may be possible to
adjust the width of the outbound lanes to accomplish the
modifications recommended by the Village's consultant.
Commissioner Goldspiel inquired if a curbed median is
required by Village ordinance for the driveway to Weiland
Road.
Mr. Kuenkler said that a width of 35 feet is acceptable
without a curbed median, and stripped pavement markings could
be used to designate lanes on the driveway.
Mr. Lindgren agreed that a driveway 35 feet wide with marked
lanes would function adequately.
Commissioner Goldspiel inquired if all required Village
utilities will be provided for this site.
Mr. Kuenkler replied affirmatively.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked for an explanation of the right-
of-way requirements for Aptakisic and Weiland Road.
Mr. Kuenkler indicated that Lake County will require a basic
dedication to achieve 60 feet from the centerline of the
roads, and up to 66 feet from centerline may be needed if
additional lane improvements are built in the future.
Mr. Brown said that an easement could be used to provide area
in excess of the 60-foot from centerline requirement.
Commissioner Goldspiel noted that the Village's traffic
consultant commented that some of the parallel parking
proposed for the building entrance area should be eliminated
to ensure that vehicles can get though the travel aisle.
Mr. Brown said some of this area could be designated as no
parking.
Commissioner Goldspiel said that the plan proposes too much
for the site, and the use is actually similar to a school in
terms of impact. He commented that too much floor area is
proposed in relation to the site area, and overall the use is
too intense for the property.
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Mr. Brown said that 43 percent of the site is allocated to
open areas, and the building coverage area is only 22 percent
of the site.
Commissioner Howard asked if the parking lot will be designed
so that vehicles will not overhang into the required 12-foot
landscaped setback along Aptakisic and Weiland Road.
Mr. Brown noted that the parking lot design has been modified
to show that the vehicle overhang will not encroach into the
minimum 12-foot landscaped setback.
Commissioner Howard observed that it would seem like a good
precaution to fence in the outdoor playground area.
Mr. Klein said that fencing is now discouraged for
playgrounds, and in the case of the JCYS, the children are
supervised at all times. He noted that the JCYS facility in
Highland Park does not have a fenced playground, and no
problems have occurred in the 12-year period that the JCYS
has operated the center.
Commissioner Samuels commented that the perspective rendering
indicates that the building will be very attractive, but he
said that he is concerned with the treatment of the northwest
elevation where the future phase will be added. He said that
if Phase 2 is not built, the building would have a long
expanse of aluminum siding, and some architectural
enhancement is needed for this part of the building.
Commissioner Samuels indicated that the facility is sized
appropriately for the site, and other facilities such as the
child care center on the Abbott property at Busch Road and
Route 83 cover more site area than the proposed JCYS
facility. He noted that the proposed outdoor playground is
larger than what is usually provided for a child daycare
facility.
Commissioner Berman commented that the JCYS facility will be
less intrusive for the area than the originally approved
strip shopping center.
Barry Ruby, 1523 Madison Court North, noted that the garbage
dumpster will be near his property, and he inquired about the
screening that will be provided.
Mr. Brown stated that the dumpster would be enclosed by a
masonry wall, but would not be roofed.
Mr. Ruby said that eight-foot high walls and a compactor
system should be used to ensure that vermin is not encouraged
to scavenge at the dumpster. He inquired if the dumpster area
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could be placed on the other side of the building.
Mike Cummings, 1527 Madison Court North, said that he is also
concerned about the location of the garbage dumpster, and he
inquired if installation of the water main for the facility
will affect his fencing, and if water seepage will occur.
Mr. Kuenkler said that the water seepage has been caused by a
storm sewer that has now been repaired. He said any damage to
the fence will have to be repaired by the developer.
Mr. Brown commented that the garbage storage area will be 35
feet from the south property line, and this is a sufficient
distance so that adjacent properties won't be affected. He
said that the JCYS knows that it is important that the refuse
area be well-maintained. He said that the dumpster can't be
on the west or north side of the building because it would be
in the way of other uses, and it would be too far from the
maintenance area of the child care center where the refuse
would be collected for removal to the outside dumpster.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked if the facility would be tax-
exempt.
Mr. Freedman stated that the JCYS is a tax-exempt entity that
would not be paying property taxes.
There being no other comments or questions, Chairman
Silbernik closed the public hearing at 10: 15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Robert E. Pfeil",Villag a Planner
APPROVED BY:
MARTIN SILBERNIK, Chairman
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REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
October 19, 1994
Wisconsin Central - Metra Commuter Rail Station and Parking
Area, Lot 49 (part) Covington Corporate Center and adjacent
Commonwealth Edison property, Commerce Court south of Busch
Parkway - Approval of a Preliminary Plan and Special Use in
the Industrial District
Northwest Child Care Center, Jewish Council for Youth
Services, Southwest corner of Aptakisic Road and Weiland Road
- Approval of a Preliminary Plan for a Child Daycare and
Recreational Facility in the B-1 District
Sterling Creek Subdivision, East side of Weiland Road north
of Parkchester Estates - Annexation with R-5 zoning and
approval of a Preliminary Plan
Chairman Silbernik called the meeting to order at 10: 15 p.m.
in the Village Council Chambers, Buffalo Grove Municipal
Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners present: Chairman Silbernik
Mr. Goldspiel
Ms. Howard
Mr. Samuels
Mr. Berman
Mr. Moons
Commissioners absent: Mr. Krug
Mr. Rosenston
Also present: Mr. Lee Szymborski, Assistant Village
Manager
Mr. Don Matthews, Gewalt-Hamilton
Associates
Mr. Larry Kahn, Bernheim, Kahn and
Elisco
Mr. Rob Schwarz, Klaus Schmechtig Co.
Mr. Ken Lattanzi, MTI Construction
Mr. Lawrence Freedman, Ash, Anos and
Logan
Mr. Marshall Klein, Jewish Council for
Youth Services
Mr. Jeffrey Brown, The JRB Group
Architects
Mr. Jeffrey Marcowitz, Project
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Management Advisors
Mr. Gerald Lindgren, Barton-Aschman
Associates
Mr. Robert Givens, Pearson, Brown and
Associates
Mr. John Green, The SDG Group
Mr. Richard Vane, The SDG Group
Mr. Keith Jacobs, Jacobs Homes
Mr. William Raysa, Village Attorney
\„J Mr. Richard Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Samuels, seconded by Commissioner
Howard, to approve the minutes of the public hearing of
October 5, 1994. All Commissioners were in favor of the
motion, and the motion passed unanimously, with Chairman
Silbernik and Commissioner Howard abstaining.
Moved by Commissioner Samuels, seconded by Commissioner
Moons, to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of
October 5, 1994. All Commissioners were in favor of the
motion, and the motion passed unanimously, with Chairman
Silbernik and Commissioner Howard abstaining.
COMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Moons said he attended the Village Board meeting
on October 17, 1994 and the following items were discussed:
1. Traffic on Checker Drive will be discussed at a
neighborhood meeting in November, and controls such as
stop signs and turning restrictions will be reviewed.
2 . The public hearing concerning the annexation agreement for
the Grove Memorial Chapel was held; ordinances will be
considered on November 21st.
3. A proposed single-family subdivision on the Relics of Olde
property on McHenry Road was referred to the Plan
Commission.
4. An ordinance concerning parking restrictions on Newtown
Drive adjacent to the Parkchester park was tabled.
5. The Prairie Grove Subdivision final plat was approved, and
construction of the half street to Prairie Road may be
deferred.
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WISCONSIN CENTRAL - METRA COMMUTER RAIL STATION AND PARKING
AREA, COMMERCE COURT SOUTH OF BUSCH PARKWAY - APPROVAL OF A
SPECIAL USE AND PRELIMINARY PLAN IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner
Samuels, to recommend approval of the Preliminary Plan and
Special Use in the Industrial District pursuant to Exhibits 1
through 5, subject to verification that the amount of
overland drainage of stormwater to areas south of the site is
compensated for by collecting and storing stormwater from the
ditch area adjacent to the railroad tracks.
Commissioner Goldspiel spoke in favor of the motion, stating
that a good plan for the station and parking area is being
proposed, and the Village has worked for 20 years to
establish commuter service on the Wisconsin Central line.
This service will be a great benefit to Village residents.
He reiterated his opinion that the projections of boardings
and parking demand by Metra are probably high, and he said
the parking as proposed will be more than adequate. He noted
that the plan provides for additional parking if and when it
is needed.
Commissioner Howard concurred with Commissioner Goldspiel's
comments, and said that the landscaping plan will create an
attractive appearance for the facility.
Commissioner Berman said he is in favor of the plan, and he
hopes that Metra's projections are accurate. He said it is
important to move the plan along and get the service started.
He noted that the Village should negotiate for more reserved
parking, but the plan as proposed should be approved to keep
the project on schedule.
Commissioner Moons said he is in favor of the plan, and he
noted that many people have worked for a number of years to
get this service established. He said the facility will be a
proud addition to the Village's services.
Chairman Silbernik noted that the Village has planned for
this service, and it is an important addition to the trans-
portation opportunities available to Village residents. He
said that he is concerned with Metra's projections, and he
hopes that parking will be adequate. He said that the Village
should definitely press Metra on increasing the 25 percent
cap on reserved parking.
Chairman Silbernik called for a vote on the motion, and the
vote was as follows:
AYES: Goldspiel, Howard, Samuels, Berman, Moons, Silbernik
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NAYES: None
ABSENT: Krug, Rosenston
ABSTAIN: None
The motion passed 6 to 0.
NORTHWEST CHILD CARE CENTER, JEWISH COUNCIL FOR YOUTH
SERVICES, SOUTHWEST CORNER OF APTAKISIC ROAD/WEILAND ROAD -
APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAN IN THE B-1 DISTRICT
Moved by Commissioner Moons, seconded by Commissioner Berman,
to recommend approval of the Preliminary Plan in the B-1
District pursuant to Exhibits 1 through 8 as presented during
the public hearing.
Commissioner Goldspiel spoke in opposition to the motion
citing the following reasons:
1. The proposed development is too intense for the site. For
example, the use will generate more early morning traffic
than a commercial use. The proposed facility is a larger
scale development than other daycare centers in the
Village, and the Phase 2 recreational uses will generate
traffic and activity that is not appropriate for this
site.
2. The development will impact the property to the west, and
it is not known how the adjoining property may be
developed in the future.
3. The site is zoned for commercial use, and the Village
should not remove good commercial land from the tax rolls.
Commissioner Howard said that she supports the project, and
it will fill a need in the community for daycare and indoor
recreation.
Commissioner Samuels said that he supports the plan and the
proposed use is not too intense for the site. He commented
that the site is large enough to accommodate the proposed
facility. The proposed outdoor playground is larger than what
is provided by most daycare centers. He said that a strip
retail center would have a greater traffic impact than the
proposed use. He noted that adjoining property owners have
not objected to the proposed use.
Commissioner Berman said that he supports the plan. He
commented that the proposed use will be less obtrusive than a
strip commercial center, the facility will be near the
commuter train station making it convenient for parents, and
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the facility will provide a service needed in the community.
He urged the JCYS to take every precaution to ensure that the
outdoor playground is properly supervised so that the
children will be safe.
Commissioner Moons said that he supports the plan. He noted
that the Buffalo Grove Park District can't provide funding to
provide indoor recreational facilities, and the proposed
facility will be an enhancement to the community.
Chairman Silbernik said he supports the plan. He commented
that the location of the garbage enclosure appears to be
acceptable based on the distance to adjoining properties.
He said that the JCYS will manage the facility properly, and
adjacent properties will not be impacted. He noted that the
Phase 1 daycare center is not an intense use, the Phase 2
recreation facilities will operate later than the daycare
center, so traffic impact will not be severe. He said that
the facility will provide good programs for children in the
community.
Chairman Silbernik called for a vote on the motion and the
vote was as follows:
AYES: Howard, Samuels, Berman, Moons, Silbernik
NAYES: Goldspiel
ABSENT: Krug, Rosenston
ABSTAIN: None
The motion passed 5 to 1.
STERLING CREEK SUBDIVISION, EAST SIDE OF WEILAND ROAD NORTH
OF PARKCHESTER ESTATES, ANNEXATION WITH R-5 ZONING AND
APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAN - WORKSHOP #1
Mr. Green stated that he represents Jacobs Homes, which is
the contract purchaser of the property. He said that Jacobs
Homes is proposing a development of 14 single-family homes.
He said that the developer's petition requests annexation
with zoning in the R-5 District. He reviewed adjacent land
uses, noting that Parkchester Estates is an existing
development adjoining the site to the south and is zoned R-4.
He indicated that to the west, across Weiland Road, the
Bentley Place townhome development is zoned R-8. To the north
of the site is a property zoned Industrial and to the east is
an unincorporated property used for industrial use under Lake
County zoning.
Mr. Green noted that the concept plan referred by the Village
Board indicated 18 lots and had variations concerning some
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building setbacks. He said that the request for variations
for setbacks has been withdrawn. He noted that the Village
Board had expressed concern about the setback variations, the
length of the cul-de-sac and the density of the development.
Mr. Green commented that the site is an infill parcel, and
the proposed R-5 zoning is appropriate between Parkchester
Estates zoned R-4 and the industrial parcel to the north.
He said that market research by Jacobs indicates that the
site is viable for single-family residential development.
Mr. Green indicated that engineering constraints relating to
stormwater management and the floodway of the Aptakisic Creek
is the biggest challenge in developing the site. He commented
that the floodway is very shallow, but compensatory storm-
water storage will be required. He noted that about 19
percent of the site will be allocated to stormwater
management.
Mr. Green said that the proposed residential lots will be 70
feet wide, which is comparable to the lot widths of the
properties in Parkchester Estates that abut the site.
He noted that the cul-de-sac is 650 feet long, which exceeds
the Village's standard of 500 feet. He said that although he
has looked at alternatives to provide a secondary access into
the site, there doesn't appear to be any feasible way to
provide additional access.
Mr. Green explained that the plan provides a continuation of
the open space in Parkchester Estates along Weiland Road. He
said that the trees on the site west of the creek would be
saved in place or be re-located. He noted that the west side
of the site along Weiland Road is intended to be a heavily
landscaped open space area.
Mr. Vane reviewed the stormwater management plan and stated
that the plan would meet Lake County and Illinois Department
of Transportation requirements. He said that Aptakisic Creek
would probably be relocated on the site, but final design has
not been done. He commented that a wetlands consultant has
reviewed site information, and there are no wetlands on the
property.
Mr. Vane stated that the proposed access to Weiland Road has
been sent to the Lake County Division of Transportation for
review. He noted that the County's standard requires a
minimum distance of 350 feet between access points to this
type of County road.
Commissioner Howard inquired if the proposed lots on the east
end of the site will abut an industrial use.
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Mr. Green said that although the property to the east is an
existing industrial use, the area abutting the proposed
residential lots is a wetland, so actual development will
probably not occur close to the proposed homes.
Commissioner Samuels asked if the access to the site could be
provided through the driveway to Weiland Road that is being
constructed as part of the Comerica Bank project.
Mr. Green said he has looked at this alternative, but it
would result in an even longer cul-de-sac on the Sterling
Green site.
Commissioner Samuels inquired why R-4 zoning isn't being
requested.
Mr. Green said that the R-4 District requires a front yard
building setback of 30 feet and a rear yard of 40 feet. Due
to the width of the north-south dimension of the site, these
setbacks can't be provided on the lots, so the R-5 District
is being requested.
Commissioner Berman suggested that a bikepath be extended
along the west side of proposed lot 14 to connect to the
bikepath near the pond in Parkchester Estates. He noted that
this path could be used for emergency access. He asked if
three-car garages are planned.
Mr. Green said he would look at the possible bikepath
connection to Parkchester. He indicated that three-car
garages are being planned for the homes.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked if the park donation will be a
cash contribution.
li Mr. Green replied affirmatively.
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Commissioner Goldspiel said it is a good idea to push the
sidewalk away from Weiland Road. He asked why the plan does
not show a sidewalk along a portion of the cul-de-sac near
the creek.
Mr. Green said at the west end of the site, most pedestrians
are headed south to the Parkchester park. A sidewalk on the
north side of the street does not seem to be necessary.
Commissioner Goldspiel pointed out that pedestrians will also
be going north out of the site to adjacent shopping centers
and in the future to the train station. He sidewalks on both
sides of the cul-de-sac street would be used by pedestrians
going west to the Weiland Road sidewalk.
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Commissioner Goldspiel asked for an explanation of the four-
foot high retaining wall noted on the site plan on lots
adjoining the detention area.
Mr. Green said this retaining wall would be stepped rather
than being a sheer vertical wall. He said a similar design
has been used in Manchester Greens adjacent of the bikepath.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked if any Commissioners have
concerns about the proposed use or zoning in relation to the
Comprehensive Plan which indicates industrial use for the
site.
Commissioners Samuels, Berman and Moons concurred that
residential development as proposed seems appropriate for the
site.
Commissioner Goldspiel commented that although he would like
to see some thought given to a cluster concept, it appears
that other land planning alternatives have been considered
and the plan as proposed appears to work well on the site.
Mr. Green requested another workshop with the Commission to
review revisions that may be caused by refinement of the
stormwater management plan.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
Chairman Silbernik said that his job is demanding more and
more of his time, so it is necessary for him to resign from
the Plan Commission. He said it has been a wonderful
experience to serve on the Plan Commission, and he thanked
the Commission members for working with him.
FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE
Mr. Pfeil said that the next meeting would be the regular
meeting scheduled for November 2, 1994, and the items for
this agenda have not been set.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS - None
STAFF REPORT - None
NEW BUSINESS - None
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Samuels, seconded by Commissioner
Moons, and carried unanimously to adjourn. Vice Chairman
Goldspiel adjourned the meeting at 11:30 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
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Robert E. Pfeil,oVillage Planner
APPROVED BY:
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