1994-03-16 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
March 16, 1994
Edward Schwartz and Company - The Coves of Buffalo Grove
Park View Terrace - Rezoning from the
Office and Research District to the R-9 Multi-family
District with a Planned Unit Development and
Approval of a Preliminary Plan -- Workshop #3
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called the meeting to order at 7 :30 p.m.
in the Village Council Chambers, Buffalo Grove Municipal Building,
50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners present: Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Krug
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Howard
Mr. Samuels
Commissioners absent: Mr. Rosenston
Ms. Genell
Mr. Berman
Mr. Silbernik
Also present: Mr. Michael Schwartz, Attorney
Mr. Edward Schwartz, Edward Schwartz & Co.
Mr. John Martin, JEN Land Design, Inc.
Mr. John Marienthal, Village Trustee
Mr. Richard Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Samuels to
approve the minutes of the regular meeting of March 2, 1994.
Commissioner Samuels requested additions to his comments on page
15, paragraph 3 regarding Town and Country's plan for the Billick
property in relation to two infill parcels as well as a comment
regarding street alignment.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel rephrased the comments to be added as,
" . . .in the planning of the lots in the Village property, provision
is left so that the infill lots can be of standard size" .
Commissioner Rhodes requested additional language on page 4,
paragraph 5 that he would vote against approval of the Coves
project if the detention basin is not properly modified to
accommodate additional stormwater.
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All Commissioners were in favor of the motion as amended and the
motion passed unanimously.
COMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Krug said that he attended the Village Board meeting
of March 7, 1994 and the main topic of discussion was the proposed
addition of theaters to the Town Center. The proposal consists of
an initial four screens with future expansion to eight screens as
well as a few shops and reconfiguration of an outlot. The major
concern with the proposal is the parking demand for the theaters.
He noted that the theater plan is being considered as a minor
change to the plan approved for Phar Mor, so it will not be
reviewed by the Plan Commission.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel said that he attended the Village Board
meeting of March 14, 1994 and the entire meeting was devoted to
the Village's proposed 1994/95 budget.
EDWARD SCHWARTZ AND COMPANY - THE COVES OF BUFFALO GROVE,
PARK VIEW TERRACE - REZONING FROM THE OFFICE AND RESEARCH DISTRICT
TO THE R-9 MULTI-FAMILY DISTRICT WITH A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
AND APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAN -- WORKSHOP #3
Mr. Michael Schwartz, representing Edward Schwartz & Company,
stated that the developer has prepared a revised site plan. The
revised site plan includes a landscape plan and a revision to the
parking area in front of building three which includes a four foot
sidewalk leading to the adjacent park.
Mr. Schwartz stated that one of the principal issues raised by the
Plan Commission was regarding the density of the project at 10.5
units per acre. He further noted the proximity of the building to
the soccer field has been a concern and he said that Mr. Martin of
JEN Land Design would address these issues.
Mr. Martin of JEN Land Design, Inc. stated there has been some
confusion between the density of this project and that of
Covington Manor. He presented the Covington Manor plan submitted
in 1983 as a comparison to the proposed site plan. He noted the
gross site density of the proposed project as 9. 1 units per acre.
The net site density of the proposed project is 10.5 units per
acre. However, the net site density of Covington Manor is 11. 8
units per acre. Therefore, the proposed project is actually a
lower density than what exists at Covington Manor.
Mr. Martin stated that the original detention basin designed by
Manhard Consulting was located in the rear yard of the subject
property. It has now been verified that the stormwater detention
for this site can be accommodated in the existing Covington Manor
basin to the east of the subject property. That will leave an
average of 70 feet of open space from the proposed buildings to
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the north property line. To the north of the property is a parking
lot for the First Midwest Bank, a fire station and a church. He
noted that there is a substantial row of existing trees along the
east property line as well as a variety of trees in several
locations on the site. He noted that most of the existing trees on
the site are small enough to be moved to accommodate the driveways
for the proposed units. He stated that the landscape plan
basically provides for screening along the north property line of
primarily evergreens, ornamentals and shrubbery. Shade trees are
planned along the fronts of the buildings.
Mr. Martin noted the soccer field in the adjacent park runs in a
north/south direction with the end line of the boundary edge at
approximately 15 feet from the property line. There will be a
minimum 12 foot setback distance of the building. Therefore there
will be approximately 27 to 30 feet separation between the soccer
field and building three. He further noted that a sidewalk has
been provided along the south side of the drive into building
three on the west end of the property, and this sidewalk connects
to the park property.
Mr. Martin stated that two alternative plans have been provided in
response to the Commission's request. He stated these alternative
plans have been made possible due to the elimination of the
backyard detention basin. The only necessity will be for catch
basins in the rear of the buildings to collect water and transfer
it to the existing Covington detention basin. He stated that this
has given more flexibility to the plans, although the developer
would still like to maximize the separation between the commercial
area north of the site and the rear of the proposed units.
Mr. Martin presented two alternative Concept Plans. Alternate A
pulls building one back from the right-of-way of Park View Terrace
so that it is staggered to the rear, still leaving 62 feet of
separation from the north property line. Building two stays in
the same location with 70 feet of separation from the north
property line. Due to the staggering, building three gains some
additional room and creates a pleasant look as one drives down the
street.
Mr. Martin presented Alternate B and noted that building three is
turned slightly east which allows the driveway to be bent up and
creates more landscaping room between the sidewalk and the
existing row of trees. There are some box elder trees on the
property line which can be retained. Building two stays in the
same location. Building one is pivoted slightly toward an east
orientation. He noted that this plan maintains a 45 foot
separation from the east end of building three and 60 feet off the
property line. Building two stays 70 feet off the property line
and building one is 75 feet from the east and 60 feet from the
west while still maintaining a minimum 30 foot setback off of Park
View Terrace. Mr. Martin noted that 70 feet has been kept behind
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building two as this is the low point where some additional catch
basins will need to be provided.
Mr. Martin stated that building elevations will be similar to the
Frenchman's Cove project. He further noted that parking has been
increased because the amount of stacking has been increased on the
longer driveways.
Commissioner Rhodes noted there is a report from the Wheeling
Highway Commissioner regarding the detention basin which states
the Township will improve the detention area and bear the cost of
same.
Mr. Kuenkler stated there are modifications to be made to the
detention basin to be done by the Township.
Commissioner Rhodes further stated that he likes the changes to
the plan to provide more green space and a meandering effect for
the buildings.
Commissioner Krug inquired if the work needed on the Covington
detention basin would be extensive.
Mr. Kuenkler stated the main change will be to the restrictor
valve.
Commissioner Krug asked if the changes to the detention basin
would eliminate the flooding in the Betty Drive area.
Mr. Kuenkler stated the change in the restrictor will certainly
improve the situation, but the solution for better drainage in the
Dunlo area includes modification to swales and other improvements
by Wheeling Township.
Commissioner Howard said that she approves of the Alternate B as
it answers the concerns of the Plan Commission and noted that she
is pleased that the existing Covington detention basin will be
used.
Commissioner Howard asked where the box elder trees are situated.
Mr. Martin stated the majority of the box elder trees are located
near building three. Some of the trees appear to be right on the
property line with some on the Covington Manor side. He noted
that most of the trees will be retained.
Commissioner Samuels asked if there will still be sufficient
stacking space for two cars on building three with Alternate B.
Mr. Martin stated with a minimum of 30 feet setback off the curb
there is a good deal of parking space and the alternate plans
actually help improve the parking.
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Vice Chairman Goldspiel stated that he likes Alternate B because
it gives the people in building three a better view and the people
in building one are now turned a little farther from the fire
station. However, he noted that he would like to see some of the
pavement mass cut down at building three while still preserving
the parking spaces. He asked if the extension to the two parking
spaces could be eliminated.
Mr. Martin agreed the suggestion to reduce the amount of pavement
near building three. He said that he would revise the driveway
area for building three to create more green space. He noted that
this would leave building three with one less parking space on the
outside but there is on street parking capability and all other
units would have capability- to park more on their own driveways.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel commented that this may not be advisable
as it is putting more parking out front on the street. He asked if
it would be advisable to use the stub of the driveway with the two
parking spaces rather than having the right angle turn at building
three.
Mr. Martin stated the suggestion is to take the spaces off going
north and just put it at the end of the drive. He noted this is
really the way it should be.
Commissioner Rhodes agreed that this would be a better solution.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted a discrepancy in the side yard
between the park and building three. He stated the distance on
the plan appears to be closer to 24 feet than 12 feet.
Mr. Pfeil stated that the engineering plan indicates that the
setback is approximately 22 feet between the park and the west
side of building three.
Mr. Martin concurred that the setback scales out larger than 12
feet. He said that this would allow for the possibility of a
slightly larger unit being built in building three and the
developer is requesting some flexibility to build a larger unit if
1 there is a demand for it from homebuyers.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel stated he is concerned with approving
something where he has not seen the footprint and would not be
disposed toward the 12 foot setback until he is certain how it
would be used. However, if a 12 foot variance is still requested,
he stated that he would like to see the worst case plan.
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Mr. Schwartz stated that he plans to start building at the east
side of the site with 12-foot setback, and when building three is
built on the west side it will have at least a 12-foot setback
from the west property line, and it is possible that this setback
will be larger than 12 feet.
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Vice Chairman Goldspiel stated that he is satisfied that the
stormwater detention issue has been dealt with, the building
orientations have been adjusted and the character of this project
is appropriate and similar to the character of the surrounding
neighborhood. However, he stated his dissatisfaction with the
proposed side yard variation for building three. He noted that if
there are choices to be made, larger setbacks should be provided
instead of using variations for smaller setbacks.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked for a comment on the compatibility
of this design with the surrounding neighborhood.
Mr. Martin stated that the building separations are greater than
at Covington Manor and the density is less than at Covington and
therefore this project will fit well into the existing
neighborhood.
Mr. Schwartz noted that the only reason for the variation request
for the side yard is due to the fact that this project is a P.U.D.
which requires a setback of 35 feet from the project property
lines. If this project were a straight R-9 zoning, the 12-foot
sideyard would not require a variation.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked that the zoning for the existing
park be checked for the public hearing.
Commissioner Rhodes suggested a polling to determine which
alternate plan is preferred by the Commission.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called for a polling to choose the
original plan, Alternate A or Alternate B.
The polling was as follows:
Original Plan: None
Alternate A: None
Alternate B: Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Samuels, Goldspiel
Tom Dimeco, Covington Manor, noted his concern with the mass of
asphalt being created by moving the proposed buildings farther
back from the street. He noted that these new units will have
twice as much asphalt as the Covington Manor subdivision.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted that one of the concerns expressed
previously by the Covington residents was that there be sufficient
parking for the proposed project and therefore these buildings
have been set back to provide additional driveway parking.
Mr. Martin stated the revised plan shows there will be landscaped
strips between driveways to break up the paved areas. He further
noted the existing trees will remain on the property.
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Karen Farino, Park View Terrace, noted concern with the parking at
the new project. She stated that at Covington there is room for
two cars in the driveway which, in essence, leaves room for only
one guest to park in the driveway. Any other guests must park on
the street which is insufficient. She further noted her concern
with the proposed asphalt driveways versus concrete driveways.
She noted concrete driveways are much nicer looking.
Commissioner Rhodes asked if Mr. Schwartz would consider concrete
driveways.
jMr. Schwartz stated he would look into it.
Tom Behan, 522 Park View Terrace, noted his continued concern with
flooding on the west side of his property which has not been
addressed.
Mr. Kuenkler stated any such problem should be investigated and he
would be willing to meet with Mr. Behan to look at the area that
1 is receiving stormwater.
Jerry Bell, 351 Park View Terrace, expressed his continued concern
with the detention noting that the Covington basin still fills
with water after a heavy rainfall. He further noted that there is
only one access road in and out of the area via Golfview. He
stated this project will create increased traffic which will
interfere with his enjoyment of his home which will now be subject
to much more noise, dirt and lights. He further noted that all of
the wonderful green space will now be wiped out and he stated that
on street parking may interfere with the Fire Department's ability
to maneuver around the corner.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel stated that the property is now zoned for
office use, and there is a legal right for the property owner to
construct a building on it. The issue before the Commission is
whether this should be a residential development or if it should
be an office and research site. He further stated that a portion
of this property already drains into the existing Covington Manor
basin and with the proposed improvements to the basin, the
detention will be sufficient to handle all the needs of the area.
Bill Nowack inquired if the proposed buildings will be much higher
than the ones in Covington.
Mr. Kuenkler stated there is a maximum driveway slope which will
limit the elevation of the buildings. He noted that the site is
higher than the grade of Park View Terrace, so it will appear that
the buildings are higher than some of the buildings in Covington
Manor.
Karen Farino asked for comments on the lack of guest parking.
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Mr. Martin stated that Covington was designed with 2 to 1 parking
whereas the proposed development will provide 3 to 1 parking per
unit and they will not have the same needs in terms of additional
guest parking as the Covington subdivision. He noted that the
proposed development will only take away five on street spaces at
most.
Commissioner Rhodes noted that street widths were established
before Covington Manor was built and the Fire Department is able
to maneuver the curve in the street.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT - None
FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE
Mr. Pfeil indicated that the next meeting will be on April 6,
1994.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS - None
STAFF REPORT - None
NEW BUSINESS - None
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Samuels and
carried unanimously to adjourn. Vice Chairman Goldspiel adjourned
the meeting at 8:50 p.m.
Res c fully bmitted,
Fay Rub'n, Recording Secretary
AP ROVED BY:
S EP EN GOLDSPI L, Vic Chairman
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