1994-01-19 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
January 19, 1994
Arboretum Golf Course, 401 Half Day Road, Minor Plan
Change to Allow Construction of a Pre-fabricated
Building Adjacent to the Clubhouse and Installation
of a Tent in the Patio Area
r Pir'a ie Grove Subdivision, West Side of Prairie Road
South of District 102 Middle School
Annexation with R-3 Zoning and Approval of a Preliminary
Plan -- Workshop #2
Manchester Greens Phase 2 - Final Plat for First Resubdivision
Buffalo Grove Business Park, Unit 3
(Outback Steakhouse) Final Plat of Subdivision
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
in Room 24, Buffalo Grove Park District Alcott Center, 530 Bernard
Drive, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners present: Vice Chairman Goldspiel
Mr. Krug
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Howard
Mr. Rosenston
Mr. Samuels
Ms. Genell
Mr. Berman
Commissioners absent: Chairman Silbernik
Also present: Mr. Lee Szymborski, Assistant Village
Manager
Mr. Carmen Molinaro, Golf Course Director
Mr. Richard Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. Jeffrey Samuels, Samuels-Berenz
Associates Inc.
Mr. John Green, System Design Group
Mr. John Marienthal, Village Trustee
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Genell, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes, to
approve the minutes of the public hearing of December 15, 1993.
Commissioner Goldspiel noted a minor typographical error on page
four. All Commissioners were in favor of the motion as amended
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and the motion passed unanimously, with Commissioners Rhodes,
Howard, Rosenston and Genell abstaining.
Moved by Commissioner Genell, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes, to
approve the minutes of the regular meeting of December 15, 1993 .
All Commissioners were in favor of the motion and the motion
passed unanimously, with Commissioners Rhodes, Howard, Rosenston
and Genell abstaining.
COMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS -
Commissioner Rosenston stated he attended the Village Board
meeting on December 20, 1993 and general discussions were held.
Commissioner Goldspiel stated he attended the Village Board
meeting on January 17, 1994 and stated a resolution was passed
concerning Buffalo Grove's comments on the Lake County framework
plan, including a recommendation that Deerfield Road be widened to
four lanes. He noted the Board' s concern with the density allowed
by the plan for the Schwind property in Wheeling Weiland and Lake
Cook Road. He further noted that two projects will be referred to
the Plan Commission :
1. Domas Development at Weiland Road opposite Thompson
Boulevard. He noted several concerns with the plan with
regard to the development of the loop road on the property to
the south as well as a concern with parking for the proposed
usage.
2 . Edward Schwartz' townhouse development on Parkview Terrace
behind the fire station on Dundee Road. He noted the
trustees ' concerns with the need for more two car garages
than what is being proposed as well as access from the street
to a nearby park.
ARBORETUM GOLF COURSE, 401 HALF DAY ROAD, MINOR PLAN CHANGE TO
ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF A PRE-FABRICATED BUILDING ADJACENT TO THE
CLUBHOUSE AND INSTALLATION OF A TENT IN THE PATIO AREA
Mr. Szymborski stated the Village is proposing a minor change to
the golf course clubhouse area which will include the construction
of 1,232 square foot pre-fabricated building to accommodate a
locker room and shower facilities for both men and women. The
project also includes expansion of the current patio and tent
area.
Mr. Szymborski stated that the purpose of the project is to
enhance and get full potential out of the Arboretum facility. He
noted that in 1989 the golf course opened with 9 holes and went to
its full 18 holes in 1990. In 1993 there were 28,000 rounds of
golf played. He stated that the goal for 1994 is for 30,000
rounds of golf and the capacity of the course is 35,000 rounds.
Mr. Szymborski stated that the project is also part of an overall
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marketing plan for the Arboretum course. He noted that Mr.
Molinaro is hoping to market the course next month at the Illinois
Golf Show. He further stated that there is a great deal of
competition in the area from courses such as Steeplechase in
Mundelein and the proposed courses in Vernon Hills and Gurnee. He
noted the golf business is becoming more competitive and the
expansion of the Arboretum' s facilities will allow them to market
the course to its fullest.
Mr. Szymborski stated the course is now severely limited by its
current facilities. Presently, there is only one toilet in the
men' s room and women's room and no locker or shower facilities.
There is also only one changing room at present.
Mr. Szymborski stated that due to the $1,5000,000 cost of a new
facility similar to the one at Buffalo Grove Golf Course, they
thought the better route would be to go with a temporary facility
for a five year period so that the golf course can improve and
work up its business. He noted that their time line for the new
facility is targeted for Memorial Day.
Mr. Carmen Molinaro stated the existing clubhouse was previously
operated as the Fiore nursery sales office and intended to serve
for a 3 to 5 year period. However, due to the need for ADA
improvements, any new improvements to the golf course have now
been pushed back another 3 to 5 years.
Mr. Molinaro stated they are seeking to make the patio area
slightly larger and add approximately 1,200 square feet next to
the existing clubhouse. The pre-fabricated building would hold
approximately 60 to 70 lockers in the men's room, 20 to 30 lockers
in the women' s room, additional washroom facilities, shower
facilities and a vestibule area for vending machines and pay
phones.
Mr. Molinaro stated the building would be of wooden slat siding
with a sloped roof and shingles to match that of the existing
clubhouse. He noted that they would blend this building in well
with the area.
Mr. Molinaro stated that these additions are needed to go after
the corporate outing business. He noted that the lack of showers
and lockers has been the biggest drawback.
Mr. Molinaro stated the current parking requirement is for 120
spaces and there presently are 136 spaces in place. He noted they
do not expect to get busier on the course on their busiest day.
Rather, they are seeking to increase business on their less busy
days. Therefore, there is no need for additional parking.
Mr. Molinaro also stated that the additional building and
expansion of the patio would not require expansion of any hours of
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operation. He noted that basically everyone is out of the area by
9: 00 p.m. He noted they have not received any complaints from
residents about any disturbances with some of the larger outings
held last year.
Mr. Molinaro stated they will be adding some plantings and
landscaping around the building and paving an area between the
patio, locker room addition and clubhouse. He noted they would
like to try to incorporate some kind of awning over this area
connecting the three areas. He further noted some additional
evergreens and plantings to further shield any views from adjacent
homes. He stated that due to some elevation changes in the area
and the large tree area, there should be no problem for the
adjacent residents.
Mr. Molinaro stated that Mr. Kuenkler has designed the sanitary
sewer, water and storm sewer lines. He noted they have previously
experienced some drainage problems in the patio area which will be
addressed with the new storm sewer line.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked if a public hearing was necessary
for this plan.
Mr. Pfeil stated that the Village attorney has concurred with the
Village' s Board' s position that this is a minor project that will
not require a public hearing, but should have a review by the Plan
Commission and Appearance Commission.
Commissioner Rhodes asked if the proposed building would be free
standing or attached to the existing clubhouse.
Mr. Molinaro stated the building would not be attached to the
existing clubhouse and noted that the building will sit on
concrete pilings and secured to the ground.
Commissioner Rhodes asked what happens to the proposed facility in
five years or so when a more permanent structure is proposed.
Mr. Molinaro stated that the whole area would probably be leveled
when a permanent facility is financially feasible. He further
noted that the pre-fabricated building would be sold as it has
some resale value.
Commissioner Rhodes asked if a public hearing would be called for
if and when a permanent new structure was proposed.
Mr. Pfeil stated the plans would be reviewed by the Plan
Commission and a public hearing would be held for a large project.
Commissioner Rhodes asked how much the proposed building and patio
area would cost.
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Mr. Molinaro stated the budget for the proposed improvements is
$200,000.
Commissioner Rhodes noted his concern with the building appearance
for the sake of both golfers and residents. He asked where the
mechanical equipment would be placed.
Mr. Molinaro stated the mechanicals would be housed at the back of
the building and the Appearance Commission would be reviewing
their plans shortly.
Commissioner Rhodes asked if Mr. Kuenkler is satisfied with the
sewer and storm systems.
Mr. Kuenkler stated affirmatively.
Commissioner Krug asked if there would be any underdrains under
the patio tent area.
Mr. Molinaro stated that the land slopes from the north to the
south into a grassy area and there is no build up of water in the
patio area. The patio itself is of interlocking stone on a 12
inch base of sand. The only water accumulation is in the grassy
area.
Commissioner Krug asked if this would be a permanent tent.
Mr. Molinaro stated it would basically be up six months of the
year from May 1st to October 1st.
Commissioner Genell stated that this is a very necessary and
welcome improvement for the Village.
Commissioner Genell asked if the neighbors had been notified and
if there had been any comments from anyone.
Mr. Molinaro stated the neighbors had been notified and he had
received no comments from residents.
Commissioner Berman asked if there would be any kind of permanent
sound system.
Mr. Molinaro stated there was no need for a permanent sound system
very often. If there was the occasional need during a large
outing one could be brought out for that outing.
Commissioner Howard asked what kind of landscaping would be used.
Mr. Molinaro described rudimentary landscaping plans which would
be discussed in greater detail during the Appearance Commission
hearing.
Commissioner Samuels asked if the tent would be on grass or on the
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patio.
Mr. Molinaro stated the old tent was 30 X 50 feet and will be
disposed of. The patio which is also 30 X 50 feet will made
approximately 60 X 50 feet and the new tent will be slightly
larger than the old tent, and it will not cover the entire patio
area.
Commissioner Samuels asked if the area under the tent would be
paved or simply grass. He noted that at a previous outing under
the old tent, the ground under the tent became saturated during a
violent rainstorm and he did not feel particularly safe.
Mr. Molinaro stated that all of the tent area plus 10 or 15 feet
beyond would be paved.
Commissioner Samuels asked if there would be some sort of drain
tile around the perimeter of the tent area.
Mr. Kuenkler stated that there is no drain tile proposed around
the perimeter area but the grading should take care of the problem
and the new storm sewer will capture the water.
Mr. Molinaro stated the slope of the land goes from north to south
and the tent will be in the northernmost two-thirds of the paved
area and no accumulation of water is anticipated on any paved
area.
Commissioner Samuels asked if any thought had been given to the
eventual reconstruction of the entire facility and the necessity
of moving the water and sewer lines.
Mr. Kuenkler stated the water and sewer lines would be abandoned,
and new lines would be installed for a permanent facility.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked exactly where the mechanicals will
be located.
Mr. Molinaro stated the mechanicals will be located on the north
side of the building and attached to the outside walls.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked what the probability is that the
pre-fab building will be replaced with a permanent building.
Mr. Molinaro stated that the probability of a new structure within
the next 3 to 5 years is about 90 per cent.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked if there are building codes which
apply to this building and, if so, have these codes been
considered.
Mr. Szymborski stated that a State of Illinois health
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certification applies to such a building. He noted that the
building is manufactured in Indiana and there is a reciprocal
agreement between Illinois and Indiana governing the required
codes of both states.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked what the Illinois code is for.
Mr. Szymborski stated the code is for pre-fabricated buildings.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel stated he is unfamiliar with the State
codes and would like to be sure that the building will be safe and
habitable.
Mr. Szymborski stated that the Director of Building and Zoning and
the Deputy Director reviewed the plan to assure the Village that
the codes that the Village require would be met through the State
process and they have noted that they are comfortable with the
building.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked how safe the building would be in
the event of a severe storm.
Mr. Szymborski stated that a pre-fabricated building is probably
safer than a trailer but less safe than a building such as the
clubhouse which has a basement. He noted that it would not be
recommended to take shelter in the pre-fabricated building.
Mr. Molinaro stated that proper precautions would be taken to
ensure everyone's safety and everyone is advised of impending
severe weather and even pulled off the course if necessary
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked if there would be any staff in the
proposed building.
Mr. Molinaro stated there would be staff on hand for larger
affairs and as needed.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked what consideration had been given to
the safety of the tent in the event of a storm.
Mr. Molinaro stated that his research has determined that a pole
tent secured in concrete and steel ties is the safest kind of tent
and this is the one that they will be purchasing. He further
noted that the tent is in an area that is sheltered somewhat by
the trees and does not usually get the full brunt of a storm.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked if there was any code for the tent.
Mr. Pfeil stated that the Fire Department noted there are codes
that apply.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked why there is such a difference in
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the size and number of facilities between the men's room and the
women's room.
Mr. Molinaro stated that this was the result of the mix of
clientele at both courses and what has been observed at the
Buffalo Grove course.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted his concern with the kind of face
that is presented to traffic on Route 22 . He stated he hoped that
some thought would be given to some sort of detailing or planning
on that north side.
Mr. Molinaro stated there is some ornamental shrubbery and trees
slated for this area that is not shown on the plans and that they
would be looking into this as the building is installed,
especially since the heating and air conditioning would be on that
side also.
Victor Robin, 349 Willow Parkway, asked how the tent would be in
relation to the trees.
Mr. Molinaro stated the tent would be the same height as the
existing tent which is approximately ten feet at the center.
Mr. Robin asked if any trees are scheduled to be removed.
Mr. Molinaro stated no trees were planned to be removed.
Mr. Robin stated that some of the trees are partially dead or
dying and asked if they would be replaced when trimmed.
Mr. Molinaro stated there are a few dead specimens that are dead
and same will be replaced when they are removed.
Mr. Robin asked where parking would be expanded if and when a
larger permanent facility is developed.
Mr. Molinaro stated they do not see the need for an expanded
parking lot as business would not decrease on already busy days,
however, they are hoping to increase business on less busy days.
Mr. Robin stated that he received his mailed meeting notice on
January 17th for a meeting held on January 19th which is rather
short notice and he stated he would hope that the residents would
be given longer notice in the future.
Mr. Wayne Mellingham, 345 Willow Parkway, asked if liquor is
served at the outings.
Mr. Molinaro stated generally liquor is served.
Mr. Mellingham asked if there is any concern of liability when
holding outings during high winds or other severe weather.
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Mr. Molinaro stated that this situation seldom occurs unless
severe weather crops up suddenly during an outing at which time
everyone at the outing would be advised to leave the course.
Mr. Mellingham asked why it was necessary to spend this kind of
money on a temporary facility.
Mr. Molinaro stated that much of the money that would have been
targeted for course improvements had been reallocated for ADA
improvements. Instead of waiting for three to five years doing
nothing the decision was made to invest some dollars now and
improve the course in order to generate enough revenue to become
self sufficient. Hopefully these improvements will put the course
in a healthy position that will justify spending larger amounts
for future improvements.
Mr. Mellingham noted that he would appreciate the removal of the
existing dead trees.
Commissioner Rhodes asked how many exits there would be for the
proposed building addition.
Mr. Molinaro stated there would be a main entrance/exit and an
additional emergency exit in each of the locker areas.
Mr. John Mangan, 2537 Live Oak Lane, asked if the new tent would
be up on an ongoing basis.
Mr. Molinaro stated that, weather permitting, the tent would be up
from May 1st through October 1st.
Mr. Mangan asked if the tent is used for larger outings only.
Mr. Molinaro stated the tent is generally used for larger outings.
Mr. Mangan asked if increased corporate outings would be allowed
to stay later on the course. He noted concern with increased
noise levels for such larger groups.
Mr. Molinaro stated that 99 percent of the time everyone would be
out of the entire facility by 9:00 p.m. There may be one time a
year when a party may go to 9:30 p.m. but that would be about the
latest a group would stay.
Commissioner Krug noted that the doors from the locker rooms
�../ should swing into the vestibule or be eliminated altogether. He
further noted that if the lockers were reconfigured, several
additional lockers could be picked up and the dead corners could
be eliminated.
Mr. Molinaro stated that any additional rounds over 2500 will pay
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for the building addition.
Commissioner Genell asked how many people can be accommodated at a
corporate outing.
Mr. Molinaro stated approximately 200 people can be accommodated
in the tent area.
Moved by Commissioner Genell, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes, to
recommend approval of the improvements to the Arboretum Golf
Course as a minor amendment to the Special Use.
Commissioner Berman, speaking in favor of the motion, stated this
is a practical and rational approach to the problems of the course
and this will be a welcome additional to the Village.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted his concern with the pre-fab
building and tent. He noted that this is not typically the kind
of thing to be put forward in one of the finest attractions of the
Village. However, he stated that he is confident that the Village
will make good in its representation that this is only a temporary
facility until a permanent facility is forthcoming and he will
support the motion on that basis.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called for a vote on the motion and the
vote was as follows:
AYES: Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Rosenston, Samuels, Genell,
Berman, Goldspiel
NAYES: None
ABSENT: Chairman Silbernik
ABSTAIN: None
The motion passed 8 to 0.
PRAIRIE GROVE SUBDIVISION, WEST SIDE OF PRAIRIE ROAD SOUTH OF
DISTRICT 102 MIDDLE SCHOOL - ANNEXATION WITH R-3 ZONING AND
APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAN -- WORKSHOP #2
Mr. Jeffrey Samuels stated that the concept plan has been revised
to reflect comments made by the Plan Commission at the first
workshop. The plan now shows a 60 foot right-of-way for the
collector street on the west side of the site. In addition the
revised plan eliminates the . 67-acre active parkland dedication in
the southwest corner of the site per discussion with the Park
District. He stated that the Park District appears to be willing
to plan for a larger active use site farther to the south in a
more centrally located area.
Mr. Samuels stated that concerns with the lots located closest to
the school have been reviewed, and lots six through ten have been
increased in size to 135 feet.
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Mr. Samuels noted the Plan Commission's request to see an overall
comprehensive plan for the property which is currently undeveloped
to the south and that this area plan has been laid out by Village
staff.
Mr. Samuels further stated they have attempted to add interest to
the proposed road by adding a great degree of movement and curves
to the road.
Commissioner Rosenston asked about the status of the property
south of the subject site.
Mr. Pfeil stated that the property is an unincorporated area and
the Village has received no petition for annexation. Basically
the land is available for development for the right sale price but
it is not known when a developer will purchase the property and
propose a plan to the Village.
Commissioner Rosenston noted concern with the lack of access to
Prairie Road prior to the development of streets connecting to
Prairie Road. He further noted that concern with the long dead end
street system that would serve the development until areas to the
south are developed. He noted that emergency vehicles would have
only one way into the development, and the street is quite long.
Mr. Pfeil suggested that a walkway could be put across the south
side of the detention area for a pedestrian walkway to the
sidewalk on Prairie Road. He further noted that the Fire
Department does not want anything less than a pavement built to
street standards, even for a road used only for emergency access.
He noted that the Fire Chief is concerned with the length of the
dead-end street system but believes he can adequately service the
area. The Fire Chief, however, said he would not want this
situation to continue for a period of more than one or two years.
Commissioner Rosenston asked if there were any comments from the
Police Department.
Mr. Pfeil stated there were no comments as yet from the Police
Department.
Commissioner Rosenston asked if there would be T turns at the end
of the incomplete roads.
Mr. Samuels stated they had proposed to put in temporary cul-de-
sacs or whatever the Fire Department recommends. He noted that the
Fire Chief has indicated that since the dead-end street stubs are
relatively short, equipment could be backed out without needing a
cul-de-sac for turning around.
Commissioner Rosenston asked about the price range of the homes.
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Mr. Samuels stated the homes would be priced in the low to mid
$300, 000 range.
Commissioner Rosenston asked if there would be sidewalks on both
sides of the street.
Mr. Samuels noted there would be sidewalks on both, sides of the
street.
Commissioner Howard asked if the detention area would be dry.
Mr. Samuels stated it would be dry.
Commissioner Howard stated she echos the concerns of the other
Commissioners regarding the lack of emergency access.
Commissioner Howard asked how many feet it is from the property
line to the school.
Mr. Samuels stated there is approximately 60 to 70 feet between
the property line and the school.
Commissioner Howard asked if there are any plans for berming in
this area.
Mr. Samuels stated they have not yet gotten into landscaping or
fencing. He stated that they will probably have to treat this
area with either a green fence or some sort of barrier depending
on the kind of feedback they would get from potential buyers. He
noted that it would be necessary for the school to allow them to
use some of their property for any kind of berming.
Commissioner Genell stated she would like to see some kind of
landscaping or berming between the mixed uses.
Commissioner Genell asked if there would be any inner walkways
within the subdivision or cut-throughs to the school.
Mr. Samuels said he has not anticipated any cut-throughs as yet
because wherever you put the sidewalk the kids are bound to find a
different path.
Commissioner Krug stated he has great difficulty in accepting dead
end streets due to a prior Village tragedy involving the same type
of situation where the Fire Department was unable to reach kids in
a home. He stated that it might be better if parking is prohibited
on both sides of the street so that the Fire Department could get
through if necessary. He noted that would probably be the only
way he could support this plan.
Mr. Samuels stated that it would be difficult to police a no
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parking on either side of the street law. He stated that there is
adequate access along the 60 foot right-of-way and noted that it
would be easy to enforce no parking on one side of the street but
impossible to do so for both sides of the street.
Commissioner Krug stated he would like to hear the Fire Department
comments regarding no parking on only one side of the street.
Commissioner Rhodes stated that he finds it very hard to accept
the plan as is because if anything were to go wrong the finger
would be pointed at the Plan Commission for allowing the
development to be built this way.
Commissioner Rhodes asked if there would be a fence along the
northern property line.
Mr. Samuels stated he was not sure yet about any fencing along the
northern property line.
Commissioner Rhodes stated that he would like to see a walkway
between lots 8 and 9 so that kids could walk to school.
Commissioner Genell asked if there were any concerns with the plan
at the Village Board level.
Mr. Marienthal stated the Trustees were also concerned with the
length of the cul-de-sac and stated that the developer was well
informed of that fact.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked why the alternate plan is considered
less desirable than the one presented.
Mr. Samuels stated that on the alternate plan there were three
homes with rear yards facing the collector street. In addition
there would be one home that would have three sides along streets.
As you drive into the subdivision you would immediately come to
the first local street intersection, and this would not create a
perception of openness for the neighborhood. He further noted that
the larger lots developed adjacent to the school will still suffer
from their proximity to the school and this will affect their
marketability no matter how large the lot is.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted that he is inclined to agree with
Mr. Samuels regarding the lots adjacent to the school. He noted
that although he is not normally in favor of all the larger lot
homes being built, in this instance, the larger lot homes are
desirable, particularly those near the entrance to the cul-de-sac.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked what the detention would be like.
Mr. Samuels stated, the detention would be dry and four feet in
depth.
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Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted that a pathway to Prairie Road is a
desirable feature. He also noted that another pathway to the
school requires some thought.
Mr. Samuels stated that pathways often become dangerous for kids
if home owners on each side decide to install tall fences.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted that Village ordinances will
prohibit tall fences for the length of the sideyards.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel stated that the pathway to the school
would be nice if it could be worked into the plan and further
noted that access to Prairie Road is very significant and would
even consider this for a bikepath.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted that as there will be a side yard
presentation onto a collector street, the yards proposed in this
plan are large enough to support this kind of a setback without a
problem.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted that Mr. Samuels should check with
the Fire Chief regarding the design of the eyebrow in the
northeast corner of the street to see if there is anything that
will mitigate some of the turn around problems.
Commissioner Rhodes asked what kind of product is being proposed.
Mr. Samuels stated the proposed homes would be four bedroom, two
and one half bath homes, with studies and two garages and a
possible third car option.
The Plan Commission agreed the plan would go to public hearing
with the following items to be fully addressed:
1. Emergency access
2 . Walkways to the School property
3. Buffering along north boundary adjoining the School
4. Park donation and location
Commissioner Howard stated a walkway to the school may be a good
idea, however, it does put a burden on the homeowners and further
encourages the congregation of young people along the walkway at
night which diminishes its attractiveness.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted that there are a number of similar
walkways which have been functioning for the last 15 years in the
Village and have not been a problem.
Commissioner Rosenston asked why the access to Prairie Road is
located so far south on the area plan.
Mr. Pfeil stated that this road is located in this area because it
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needs to be approximately half way between Brandywyn Lane and
Aptakisic Road. He noted that when plans for the east side of
Prairie Road are defined, the connections to Prairie Road can be
adjusted to create intersections or offsets.
MANCHESTER GREENS PHASE II - FINAL PLAT FOR FIRST RESUBDIVISION
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Rosenston
to recommend approval by the Village Board of the Manchester
Greens, Phase II First Resubdivision dated January 11, 1994 (2
pages) .
Mr. Green stated that the building envelopes for the lots that are
being changed are delineated with dark lines on the plat; these
lots are being made two and one half feet larger than on the
original plat.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked if this is for larger dwelling
units or for some other reason.
Mr. Green stated that the change is needed because the unit mix
has to be adjusted to accommodate the units that buyers are
requesting. Some of the units have a different footprint than what
can be accommodated on the original plat. He noted the driveway
locations and separations between units are not being changed.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked if the plat is in full compliance
and if it has been reviewed for closure.
Mr. Kuenkler noted all is in order except for the error in the
legal description which needs to change lot 56 instead of lot 54.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called for a vote on the motion and the
vote was as follows:
AYES: Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Rosenston, Samuels, Genell,
Berman, Goldspiel
NAYES: None
ABSENT: Chairman Silbernik
ABSTAIN: None
The motion passed 8 to 0.
BUFFALO GROVE BUSINESS PARK, UNIT 8 (OUTBACK STEAKHOUSE) -
FINAL PLAT OF SUBDIVISION
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Rosenston
to recommend approval to the Village Board of the Buffalo Grove
Business Park, Unit 8 Outback Steakhouse, Final Plat of
Subdivision dated December 27, 1993 (2 pages) .
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked if the motion was subject to the
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addition of the 25 foot building setback line along Weidner Road.
Commissioner Rhodes stated yes.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked if staff had reviewed the plat for
compliance with the approved plan and for closure.
Mr. Kuenkler replied yes.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked if the additional parking needs to
be shown or delineated.
Mr. Kuenkler stated that the parking is not really within the
boundary of the area being subdivided so it is really a separate
document and is really more of a zoning issue.
Mr. Pfeil stated that the PUD requiring the parking will be
reviewed as part of the building permit approval.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called for a vote on the motion and the
vote was as follows:
AYES: Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Rosenston, Samuels, Genell, Berman
Goldspiel
NAYES: None
ABSENT: Chairman Silbernik
ABSTAIN: None
The motion passed 8 to 0.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT - None
FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE
Mr. Pfeil stated the next meeting is scheduled for February 2,
1994.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND OUESTIONS - None
STAFF REPORT - None
NEW BUSINESS - None
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Krug and
carried unanimously to adjourn. Vice Chairman Goldspiel adjourned
the meeting at 10:02 p.m.
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Respe fully s bmitted,
Fay ubin ecording Secretary
AP ROVED BY:
S EP EN GOLDSPIEL, Vice Chairman
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