1993-12-01 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
December 1, 1993
Busch Grove Community Park, Busch Road/Route 83, Annexation
in the Residential Estate District for 53 acres, and approval
of a Special Use and Preliminary Plan for a community park on
a 76.5-acre site in the Residential Estate District and
Office and Research District
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called the meeting to order at 7: 30
P.M. in Room 24, Buffalo Grove Park District Alcott Center,
530 Bernard Drive, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Vice Chairman
Goldspiel read the Notice of Public Hearing as published in
the Buffalo Grove Daily Herald, explained the format to be
followed for the public hearing, and swore in persons who
wished to give testimony during the hearing.
Commissioner present: Vice Chairman Goldspiel
Mr. Krug
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Howard
Mr. Samuels
Ms. Genell
Mr. Berman
Commissioners absent: Chairman Silbernik
Mr. Rosenston
Also present: Mr. Michael Rylko, Buffalo Grove Park
District
Mr. Donald Hedlund, Buffalo Grove Park
District
Mr. Larry Kmiecik, Williams/Pollock
Associates
Mr. Tom Vatiglio, Lighting Consultant
Mr. John Marienthal, Village Trustee
Mr. William Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
The following exhibits were presented by the petitioner at
the Public Hearing:
Exhibit A: Master Plan dated November 23, 1993
Exhibit B: Lighting plot delineating footcandle distribution
for outdoor lighting of ballfields dated March 29,
1993
Exhibit C: Initial Development Plan dated November 23, 1993
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Exhibit D: Brochure concerning outdoor light fixtures
Exhibit E: Parking analysis data sheet
Mr. Rylko stated that the site is a triangular tract bounded
by Busch Road on the north, Buffalo Grove Road on the east,
and Route 83 on the west. He noted that the north 53 acres
are unincorporated, and approximately 23 .5 acres are in
Buffalo Grove zoned Residential Estate and Office and
Research. He stated that the Park District is petitioning to
annex the 53-acre parcel with Residential Estate zoning, and
to get a Special Use and Preliminary Plan approval for a
community park for the entire 76.5-acre tract.
Mr. Rylko said that the main curb cut to Route 83 is
consistent with plans to widen the road, and a left turn lane
will be constructed on Route 83 to facilitate turns into the
Park District's driveway. He noted that the Village and Park
District staffs have worked with the Illinois Department of
Transportation (IDOT) to upgrade the sidewalk along Route 83
from five feet in width to eight feet along the Park
District's frontage. He said that the Park District has a
grant to construct an eight-foot wide sidewalk along the
south side of Busch Road, and this sidewalk will be as part
of IDOT's improvements to the Busch Road/Route 83
intersection. He commented that the Park District also has a
partial grant to fund construction of a bikepath along the
creek in the middle of the Busch Grove site. He noted that
approximately 26 acres of the park site is wetlands that will
essentially remain in their current condition.
Mr. Rylko reviewed the Master Plan (Exhibit A) for the park
facility, noting the location of the three ballfields and the
tennis courts that are proposed to have outdoor lights. He
also explained the location of other site plan elements
including picnic shelters, washrooms, the nature center, the
community center, the ice rink, the swimming pool, the
bandshell, and the volleyball and basketball courts. He noted
that the swimming pool will have a maximum capacity of 1, 200
persons. He said that the park will have a total of two miles
of bikepaths. Mr. Rylko noted that the Master Plan was
developed after a series of meetings with citizens to discuss
various planning ideas for the park facility.
Mr. Rylko reviewed the location of proposed parking areas. He
said that the main parking area is located adjacent to Route
83, closest to the major facilities such as the ballfields
and the swimming pool. He indicated that the parking has been
analyzed to ensure that more spaces are being provided than
the minimum required by Village ordinance. He said that the
Village has asked its traffic consultant to review the plan,
and it is his understanding that the consultant does not have
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any concerns about the road or parking lot layouts. He
commented that the plots of the footcandle distribution for
the outdoor lights at the ballfields and the tennis courts
indicate that the light is being retained on the Park
District's property and will not spillover to adjacent roads
or properties. Mr. Rylko indicated that portable restrooms
will be used near the nature center until funding is
available for a permanent restroom facility.
Mr. Pfeil noted that Ken Carmignani, the Village's traffic
consultant has reviewed the plan, and he indicated that the
road layout and parking lot design is acceptable, and would
not encourage cut-through traffic.
Mr. Kmiecik commented that the facilities on the Master Plan
are "blocked out" in general terms to reflect what the
citizen focus groups recommended for development of the park.
He said that as funding becomes available of specific
facilities, detailed site plans would be developed.
Commissioner Krug inquired if just the tennis courts or also
the basketball courts would have outdoor lighting.
Mr. Rylko stated that only the tennis courts and the three
ballfields would have outdoor lighting.
Commissioner Krug asked if the volleyball courts would be
lighted.
Mr. Rylko indicated that the volleyball courts would not have
separate outdoor lights, but they will be close enough to the
swimming pool area so that lighting from the pool area will
make the volleyball courts usable in the evening.
Commissioner Krug inquired if the site plans for the various
facilities would return to the Village for review when
specific facilities are proposed for construction.
Mr. Rylko indicated that specific plans would be presented to
the Village for approval.
Commissioner Rhodes noted that it is not clear how the
annexation and Special Use are being handled; he asked for
clarification on what the Village is being asked to approve
at this time.
Mr. Rylko indicated that the Park District is trying to
obtain basic approval to ensure that the Master Plan,
including outdoor lighting, is acceptable to the Village.
He said that as funding for specific facilities becomes
available, the Park District will present plans to the
Village for approval.
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Commissioner Genell inquired about the benefit to the Park
District of annexing the property to Buffalo Grove.
Mr. Rylko indicated that the ability to hook up to Village
utilities and services such as police and fire protection are
the main benefits of annexation.
Commissioner Genell inquired if funding is available for the
indoor ice rink.
Mr. Rylko indicated that private funding is being studied,
but no firm proposals have been made to the Park District.
Commissioner Samuels reviewed the six criteria for a Special
Use in the Zoning Ordinance, and asked Mr. Rylko to address
the criteria.
Mr. Rylko stated that the criteria for a Special Use are met
by the petition, noting that the park will serve the public,
is planned to be in harmony with adjacent land uses, will not
be injurious to other properties, and will be provided with
adequate utilities and parking.
Commissioner Samuels asked for information concerning the
heights of buildings that would be constructed on the park
property.
Mr. Rylko said that the buildings would not be higher than
two stories, and would be similar in height to adjacent
residential structures.
Commissioner Samuels asked if the parking lots would be
lighted.
Mr. Rylko said that the parking lots would have lights.
Commissioner Berman inquired if the Special Use request
includes the outdoor lights for the ballfields and the tennis
courts.
Mr. Rylko replied affirmatively.
Commissioner Samuels asked if a specific firm has been
identified to install the lights.
Mr. Vatiglio said that specifications for the lights would be
prepared, and then a bidding process would probably be used.
Commissioner Berman asked for an explanation of the
footcandle plot for the lights, and information concerning
the distance to the closest homes.
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Mr. Vatiglio said the lights would be approximately 50
footcandles at the play areas, but the level is only about
one-half of a footcandle at the edge of the park property.
Mr. Rylko said the closest home to the tennis courts lights
would be Hidden Lakes, and these homes are separated by the
setback on the park property, the 105-foot Buffalo Grove
right-of-way and a setback of at least 25 on the Hidden Lake
site. He commented that street lighting on both Route 83 and
Buffalo Grove Road adjacent to residential areas have higher
footcandle readings than the lights from the park facilities.
Commissioner Berman asked if glare from the lights would
affect motorists on adjacent roads.
Mr. Vatiglio said the lights would have "shoebox" fixtures
that direct light onto the playing facilities and produce
very little spillover light.
Commissioner Berman said that he is concerned with the
Village granting a Special Use without having more specific
information concerning the lighting and other planning items.
Mr. Rylko said that the Park District would return to the
Village for approval of plans for specific facilities.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked Mr. Rylko what could be built
with the approval that is being requested with the current
petition.
Mr. Rylko indicated that the bikepaths are the main item that
could be built immediately. Elements such as the parking lots
would have to return for Village approval.
Tom Mason, 1113 Lockwood Drive, asked what is allowed by
approval of the Special Use.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel said that the Special Use allows the
property to be used as a park.
Mr. Raysa noted that the park is a Special Use in a
residential district, and is subject to specific conditions
that would be set forth in the ordinance approving the
special use.
Mr. Mason suggested that the bikepath along the creek be
lighted to provide better safety for users.
Mr. Kmiecik said that the paths adjacent to the public
streets will be lighted, and the path along the creek is
intended to be more of a nature trail.
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Mr. Mason asked how late the lights on the ballfields and
tennis courts would be used.
Mr. Rylko said that the lights would not be used later than
10: 30 P.M. , and the tennis court lights would be on a timer
system so that players would turn the lights on only when
needed.
Mr. Mason asked if the proposed parking will be adequate. He
noted that the parking for Green Lake Park is not adequate
for peak periods, and users park on adjacent residential
streets.
Mr. Rylko stated that the proposed parking exceeds the
Village ordinance, and he believes it will be adequate for
the proposed facilities.
Mr. Kmiecik commented that a complete analysis of parking
demand has not be done for all the proposed buildings, but
based on his firm's experience on 30 other similar projects,
they believe parking will be adequate. He noted that a shared
parking concept is workable because some of the facilities
such as the indoor ice rink will not be in use when the
outdoor pool is having its peak demand.
Joe McCluskey, 950 Hidden Lake Drive, asked if the parking
for the swimming pool will be sufficient for peak periods.
Mr. Rylko commented that the pool will be used approximately
90 days per year, and the parking that serves the community
center will be available to pool users.
Mr. McCluskey asked where the bikepath would cross Buffalo
Grove Road.
Mr. Rylko said that the sidewalk system would cross Buffalo
Grove Road at the intersection of Busch Road where a signal
is provided.
Bruce Wells, 1116 Lockwood Drive, inquired about possible
noise from the bandshell area.
Mr. Rylko said that the bandshell is oriented toward the
interior of the park, and the sound would be buffered from
adjacent residential areas.
Mr. Wells said that the bikepath crossing at the Route
83/Buffalo Grove Road intersection will be dangerous, and he
asked if other alternatives have been considered.
Mr. Rylko said that IDOT has indicated that a tunnel under
Route 83 is not feasible due to the need to elevate the road.
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An elevated walkway is not practical because of the length
that would be needed for the approach ramps, and IDOT
indicates that people do not use elevated ramps.
Commissioner Howard noted that the Plan Commission has
studied the issue of pedestrian safety at locations in the
Village, and she said that more input from citizens is needed
to see if some real improvements could be accomplished for
pedestrian safety at street crossings. She said that traffic
restrictions such as "no right turn on red" would require an
enforcement program.
Commissioner Genell said that she agrees that pedestrian
safety at the Route 83/Buffalo Grove Road crossing will be a
problem.
Don Crawford, 950 Shady Grove Lane, commented that the
presentation has not been specific concerning the type of
outdoor lighting that will be used.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel said that as detailed plans are
developed, the Park District will return for approval by the
Village. He noted that at this point the Village wants at
least an overall conceptual plan for the park so that it can
be determined if all the phases will be properly coordinated.
Mr. Crawford inquired if the Park District would be allowed
to install lights based on the current approval if this could
be done within one year of approval.
Mr. Rylko said he thinks lights would be allowed based on the
current petition.
Vice Chairman noted that the Plan Commission is a
recommending body to the Village Board, and the Board will
determine how broad the current approval is concerning what
facilities can be built without more detailed plans.
There being no further comments or questions from anyone else
present, Vice Chairman Goldspiel closed the public hearing at
8:45 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Robert E. Pfeil, Village Planner
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AP ROVED:
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REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
December 1, 1993
Busch Grove Community Park, Busch Road/Route 83, Annexation
in the Residential Estate District for 53 acres, and approval
of a Special Use and Preliminary Plan for a community park on
a 76.5-acre site in the Residential Estate District and
Office and Research District
Concord Glen, Route 83 - Plat of Subdivision
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called the meeting to order at 8:45
P.M. in Room 24, Buffalo Grove Park District Alcott Center,
530 Bernard Drive, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners present: Vice Chairman Goldspiel
Mr. Krug
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Howard
Mr. Samuels
Ms. Genell
Mr. Berman
Commissioners absent: Chairman Silbernik
Mr. Rosenston
Also present: Mr. Michael Rylko, Buffalo Grove Park
District
Mr. Donald Hedlund, Buffalo Grove Park
District
Mr. Larry Kmiecik, Williams/Pollock
Associates
Mr. Tom Vatiglio, Lighting Consultant
Mr. William Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Samuels, seconded by Commissioner
Rhodes, to approve to the minutes of the Regular Meeting of
November 17, 1993. Commissioner Genell noted two
typographical errors on Page 5. All Commissioner were in
favor of the motion as amended and the motion passed
unanimously, with Commissioner Howard abstaining.
COMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS - None
BUSCH GROVE COMMUNITY PARK. BUSCH ROAD/ROUTE 83 - APPROVAL OF
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RESIDENTIAL ESTATE ZONING AND APPROVAL OF A SPECIAL USE AND
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PRELIMINARY PLAN
Moved by Commissioner Samuels, seconded by Commissioner
Rhodes, to recommend approval of annexation with Residential
Estate zoning for the 53-acre tract, and approval of a
Special Use and Preliminary Plan for the 76.5-acre park site
in the Residential Estate and Office and Research Districts.
Commissioner Krug noted that the recommendation includes
lighting for the tennis courts, and this is appropriate
because lighting will make the courts more useful.
Commissioner Samuels concurred with Commissioner Krug, and
commented that this part of the community needs more
recreational facilities. He said that the proposed lighting
will not be intrusive for adjacent residential areas.
Commissioner Samuels noted that the Park District addressed
the criteria for a Special Use as part of the presentation
during the public hearing. He said that he is satisfied that
the criteria have been met. He commented that the overall
facility will be an asset to the community, and will not have
detrimental impacts.
Commissioner Howard indicated that she agrees with
Commissioner Samuels, and the facility will be good for the
community. She said that the park will not be detrimental to
adjacent properties, and she agreed that the tennis courts
should be lighted.
Commissioner Genell noted that the Park District has stated
that detailed plans will be submitted to the Village as
specific facilities are proposed for construction. She said
that she has faith in the Park District that they will do a
good job in implementing the plan, and she noted that Willow
Stream Park was nicely developed.
Commissioner Berman said that the conceptual plan for the
park is very good, but he has concerns about approving a
special use for the outdoor lighting at this time. He said
that the Notice of Public Hearing is not specific about the
outdoor lighting. He noted that approval of the special use
gives the Park District on year to begin construction, and if
nothing is built, then the special use would expire. He
commented that the area surrounding the park could change
over time, and this raises the question of whether the
outdoor lights will be compatible with adjacent uses in the
future.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel said that some verygood
made bythe points were
public during the public hearing, and items such
as pedestrian safety in crossing Route 83 is an issue of
great concern. He noted that the Village has not required
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lighting on off-street bikepaths, so he does not think the
Park District should be required to light the path along the
creek. He indicated that he concurs with comments made by
other Commissioners concerning the need for the facility and
its value to the community.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called for a vote on the motion, and
the vote was as follows:
AYES: Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Samuels, Genell, Goldspiel
NAYES: Berman
ABSENT: Silbernik, Rosenston
ABSTAIN: None
The motion passed 6 to 1.
CONCORD GLEN, ROUTE 83 - FINAL PLAT OF SUBDIVISION
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes and seconded by Commissioner
Samuels to recommend approval of the final plat as presented.
Mr. Raysa noted that the plat will have a note added that
prohibits permanent street access to Outlot A from Route 83.
He said that the label "open space and detention area" would
be deleted from Outlot A. He also indicated that the 35-foot
building setback line along Route 83 will be removed because
Outlot A is not a buildable lot, and the setback restriction
is not needed. He noted that the plat contains a note from
the surveyor stating that the plat is not tied to any
"system. " He said that the Village Engineer has asked the
surveyor to clarify the meaning of this note. Mr. Raysa also
commented that restrictions concerning patios, decks and
fences in the subdivision are controlled by the restrictive
covenants and condominium declaration. He indicated that he
has reviewed these documents and the provisions are in
accordance with the Plan Commission's recommendations.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called for a vote on the motion, and
the vote was as follows:
AYES: Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Samuels, Genell, Berman,
Goldspiel
NAYES: None
ABSENT: Silbernik, Rosenston
ABSTAIN: None
The motion carried, 7 to 0.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT - None
FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE
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Mr. Pfeil said that the next meeting would be the regular
meeting on December 15, 1993. This agenda will include a
public hearing on the Checker Place townhomes and a workshop
on a single-family subdivision proposed for the DeGrazia
property on Prairie Road.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS - None
STAFF REPORT - None
NEW BUSINESS - None
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner
Howard, and carried unanimously to adjourn. Vice Chairman
Goldspiel adjourned the meeting at 9: 10 P.M.
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Robert E. Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVED BY:
TEPHEN OLDSP EL, Vice Chairman
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