1993-10-13 - Plan Commission - Minutes SPECIAL MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
October 13, 1993
Busch Grove Park, Route 83, Busch Road and Buffalo
Grove Road - Annexation With R-3 Zoning for a 53-acre
Tract and Approval of a Special Use and Preliminary
Plan for a Community Park on a 76.5-acre Tract
Workshop #2
Amoco Service Station, Southwest Corner of Lake Cook
Road/Route 83 - Rezoning to the B-2 District and
Preliminary Plan -- Workshop #3
Buffalo Grove Town Center, Unit 7 (Boston Chicken)
Final Plat
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called the meeting to order at 7:30 p.m.
in Room 24, Buffalo Grove Park District Alcott Center, 530 Bernard
Drive, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners present: Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Krug
Ms. Howard
Mr. Rosenston
Mr. Samuels
Mr. Berman
Commissioners absent: Chairman Silbernik
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Genell
Also present: Mr. Michael Rylko, Buffalo Grove Park
District
Ms. Martha Weiss, Buffalo Grove Park
District
Mr. Larry Kmiecik, Williams, Pollock
Associates, Ltd.
Mr. Edward Graham, Attorney
Mr. C.A. Rudd, Amoco Oil Co.
Mr. Panoyer, Landscape architect
Mr. John Marienthal, Village Trustee
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Rosenston, seconded by Commissioner Howard
to approve the minutes of the public hearing and regular meeting
of July 21, 1993. Commissioner Rosenston noted a typographical
error on page 17 of the public hearing. Commissioner Goldspiel
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noted an addition for page 12 of the public hearing, paragraph 7
to include " . . . in a book recognized by Mr. Campbell. " All
Commissioners were in favor of the motion as amended and the
motion passed unanimously.
Moved by Commissioner Rosenston, seconded by Commissioner Berman
to approve the minutes of the public hearing and regular meeting
of September 1, 1993 . Commissioner Rosenston noted that on page 5
of the public hearing, paragraphs 7 and 8 mention car carriers to
be unloaded at both the Nissan and Saturn dealerships. However, he
understood the question to be directed at having the carriers
unload for both dealerships at the Park District parking lot.
Mr. Pfeil stated that the notes would be checked and corrected to
reflect the proper question and response.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted the vote on the regular meeting did
not reflect Commissioner Howard's nay vote.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel further commented that he does not think
that a verbatim copy of some Commissioners' remarks with just a
summary of the comments of other Commissioners is appropriate for
the Commission's minutes. He noted that the minutes are intended
to reflect the basic points made by people at the meeting; the
minutes are not a verbatim transcript of the meeting. He said that
in the future he would ask that the minutes reflect a summary of
remarks as has been the custom.
Commissioners Samuels and Berman concurred with Vice Chairman
Goldspiel.
All Commissioners were in favor of the motion as amended and the
motion passed unanimously.
Moved by Commissioner Berman, seconded by Commissioner Howard to
approve the minutes of the special meeting of September 8, 1993 .
Commissioner Rosenston noted an addition to page 5 of paragraph 5
of the word "stormwater" system. Commissioner Samuels noted an
addition for page 7, paragraph 6 to note his concern with the
layout of the development especially with the southeast corner's
massive pavement. Commissioner Rosenston noted an addition to
page 11, paragraph 5 to add the words "drive through" .
All Commissioners were in favor of the motion as amended and the
motion passed unanimously with Commissioner Rosenston abstaining.
COMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Krug reported on the Village Board meeting of October
4, 1993 stating that the Board took the following actions:
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1. Approval of the Outback Steakhouse plan in the Buffalo Grove
Business Park;
2 . An ordinance concerning refinancing of bonds for the Town
Center Tax Increment Financing District was approved;
3 . Adoption of a resolution to have the Village Attorney draft a
Village gun control ordinance.
BUSCH GROVE PARK, ROUTE 83 , BUSCH ROAD AND BUFFALO GROVE ROAD -
ANNEXATION WITH R-3 ZONING FOR A 53-ACRE TRACT AND APPROVAL OF A
SPECIAL USE AND PRELIMINARY PLAN FOR A COMMUNITY PARK ON A 76.5
ACRE TRACT -- WORKSHOP #2
Mr. Rylko stated that wetlands delineation has now been completed
and comprises almost 26 acres or one-third of the site. He noted
that the plan has been revamped and now incorporates wetlands in
the area where the bandshell had originally been planned. The
bandshell has been relocated off the backside of the community
center where it will also serve as a built-in grandstand.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked if the Plan Commission was being
asked to deal with both the Initial Development Plan and the
Master Plan at this time.
Mr. Rylko stated that the Board had requested him to bring them up
to date regarding the referendum to be held on November 2nd. The
Board asked that both the Conceptual Plan the long range Master
Plan be shared with the Plan Commission. He further noted that
the present R-E zoning of the 23 .5-acre tract would not be a
problem for the entire parcel as it appears that all buildings on
the plans would have front yard setbacks greater than the 50-foot
yard required in the R-E District.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked if the Plan Commission is being
asked to approve the Phase 1 Initial Plan and also the Master
Plan.
Mr. Rylko stated that he is under the impression that the Park
District would have to return to the Village before any actual
above ground facilities are constructed. He noted that the Park
District is seeking annexation and approval of the Phase I plan
at this time, and other phases of the plan would be brought to the
Village for review when the funding is available to implement
these phases.
Mr. Pfeil stated that as part of the annexation agreement it would
be advisable to have some language that details that the plan
would return to the Village for final approval. He noted that
although some of the details on the Master Plan may change, the
basic layout is set and should be discussed. It is advisable
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that the Village have the plan return for final approval in case
of any major changes.
Mr. Rylko stated the conceptual plan for the November 2nd question
on the ballot is basically for a six cent rate increase per one
hundred dollars of assessed evaluation. This would then generate
five cents for park development and one cent for maintenance and
operation of the site.
He noted that the Park District has responded to the Commission's
request to connect the bikepath through the park site by
meandering the path along the creek, through the wetlands up to
Busch Road and back east to Buffalo Grove Road and back north to
Busch Road.
Mr. Rylko stated that the District is proposing three lighted
ballfields in the center of the site as well as a playground, and
two picnic shelters with washroom facilities. In the northeast
section of the site they are proposing two soccer fields, tennis
courts, four half court basketball courts and two parking lots.
Mr. Rylko further stated that due to the Route 83 expansion there
is a bikepath on the west side of the road in conjunction with the
Village and a 5 foot wide concrete sidewalk on the east side of
Route 83. He stated that the Park District ha received a grant to
continue the bikepath on the south side of Busch Road as well as a
fifty percent matching grant from the Department of Conservation
which they have piggybacked onto the expansion of Route 83 and
road improvements on Busch Road with IDOT and the Village. There
has been some grading work done and the actual concrete work will
be done next spring and summer.
Mr. Rylko stated that major parking would be along Route 83 with
access from a left turn lane southbound on Route 83 to be
constructed by IDOT.
Commissioner Rosenston asked if parking for the temporary soccer
fields would be in the main parking lot along Route 83.
Mr. Rylko stated that is correct.
Commissioner Rosenston asked if there would be parking along the
road going up to Busch Road.
Mr. Rylko stated that road would not be wide enough.
Mr. Kmiecik stated that road would pass the community center and
ice rink and would be a circuitous route to allow for control of
traffic through the park.
Commissioner Rosenston noted concern that people would park
alongside the road as well as Busch Road to get to the temporary
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soccer fields before the entire development is built out. He asked
Mr. Rylko to re-evaluate this situation prior to making final
plans.
Mr. Rylko stated that the exterior lighting for the ballfields
would be produce only one-half foot candle at the edge of the
parking lot. He noted there would be no glare or spillover
lighting onto Route 83 or the homes adjacent to Route 83 because
of the high tech lighting fixtures that would be used.
Mr. Rylko further stated that one of the Commission's concerns had
been lack of a sidewalk along Buffalo Grove Road. He stated the
Park District proposes to place a bikepath along the creek west of
Buffalo Grove Road; this path will meander through the park.
Commissioner Krug asked if the amenities on the northeast corner
are proposed to have outdoor lights.
Mr. Rylko stated that the Park District has represented in various
focus group and neighborhood meetings that there are no plans to
illuminate the facilities in the northeast corner of the site.
Commissioner Rosenston commented that the proposed 5-foot wide-
walk on the east side of Route 83 should be an 8-foot path since
it will be serving the park facility.
Mr. Rylko said that he and the Village staff have met with IDOT
and the plan so far is to have a 5-foot sidewalk on the east side
of Route 83. He noted that he thinks the sidewalk should be 8 feet
in width. He said that he would consult with Village staff to see
if they can ask IDOT to do a change order at this location for the
sidewalk. He noted that the Park District now uses a 10-foot width
for bikepaths due to the increased use of rollerblades. He said
that the proposed bikepath through the park will be 10-feet in
width.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked for a clarification of the shared
parking for the various proposed facilities.
Larry Kmiecik noted that since the outdoor swimming pool would
only be used approximately 90 days out of the year and the other
facilities are used more intensely after the pool is closed for
the year, the parking lots would be serving a range of activities
arranged to occur at different times, rather than large peaks of
several uses at one time. He said that they he has analyzed the
amount of square footage and field area allocated to various
activities in relation to parking demand. He said that believes
that the proposed parking will be sufficient for various
activities at different times throughout the year. He noted that
distinct areas of parking avoids the look of a large sea of
asphalt for the parking lot.
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Commissioner Samuels noted that if it is intended for the parking
lot on the northwest corner to also serve the pool area, it may be
advisable to install a footpath.
Mr. Kmiecik noted that they have shown some of the sidewalks that
would connect the buildings. The plans developed so far do not
include details such as paths between the parking lots and various
facilities, but these items would be addressed in final plans
submitted to the Village.
Commissioner Rosenston asked if the parking lots on the northeast
corner, which have access off public roads, would be a problem,
without any interconnects.
Mr. Kmiecik stated that they would like to avoid interconnections
for these lots to avoid cut-through traffic. He further noted that
the parking provided would be able to handle the traffic. He
stated that there may be some confusion the first time people use
the parking lots, but when people know which field they are using,
they will be able to locate the closest parking area.
Commissioner Rosenston asked if there are any immediate or long
term plans for left turn lanes off of either Busch Road or Buffalo
Grove Road into the parking lots in the northeast corner.
Mr. Rylko noted there is room on Buffalo Grove Road for
construction of a left turn lane. He was unsure about Busch Road.
Commissioner Samuels stated that the facilities at the northeast
corner should have outdoor lights, particularly the tennis courts.
Commissioner Rosenston concurred with Commissioner Samuels.
Commissioner Berman noted concern for the residents if lighting is
proposed and stated that the configuration may need to be changed
if lighting is a consideration. He stated he would like to see a
lighting plan for this area of the site.
Mr. Rylko noted that they have told residents in the area that the
tennis courts and basketball courts would not be lighted. He said
he could do a lighting plan for the tennis courts in the northeast
corner of the site, but he would not want to propose lighting for
the basketball courts.
Commissioner Howard stated that lighting the northeast corner
would be a concern for the adjacent residents who would perceive
this as an impact, and the issue of spillover lighting would
probably be raised. She noted, however, that she is not opposed to
lighting.
Commissioner Berman further noted that basketball noise is an
intrusive impact for adjacent residential areas. He commented that
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the basketball courts should not be lighted.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel stated that if the Park District has no
intention of lights for the northeast corner, then the issue does
not need to be covered at this time. He asked the Commission
members if they want to address lighting for this area at this
time in view of the Park District's position that the District
does not intend to ask approval for lights in this area of the
site.
Commissioner Berman stated that if lighting is eventually
proposed, the Park District would have to come back for a Special
Use and this issue need not be considered at this time if no
lighting is presently contemplated.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted that if lighting is proposed at some
future time, there may be a condition attached requiring
reconfiguration of some of the fields.
Commissioner Rosenston noted that if the Park District has no
intention of lighting the fields now or in the future, this is a
moot issue.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel stated the Park District should think
about the lighting issue before the next meeting and if lighting
is contemplated at any time, the necessary information should be
presented to the Plan Commission at the next meeting.
Commissioner Rosenston noted that if lighting is to be used the
noise issue becomes more important and should also be addressed.
Ms. Weiss stated that the Park District would like to see how much
usage they will get at the new Woodland Park before they propose
any lighting at the northeast corner.
Commissioner Berman asked if the lighting diagram takes into
account the additional parking lot lights.
Mr. Kmiecik stated that foot-candle analysis does not address
parking lot lights because these lights have a much lower level
than the lights to be used for illuminating the ball fields.
Commissioner Berman said that he wants information concerning
whether or not the parking lot lights have a material affect on
the site foot-candle levels.
Mr. Kmiecik reviewed the foot-candle plot and noted that a reading
of one-half of a foot-candle is achieved at the edge of the
parking lot. He said the parking lot lights do not materially
affect this reading.
Commissioner Samuels asked if the wetlands would be accessible.
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Mr. Rylko stated that the part of the bikepath goes over a bridge
structure through the wetlands. He further stated that once the
nature center is funded it will be possible to have nature trails
through the wetlands.
Commissioner Howard asked about pedestrian crossings from Route 83
to the park.
Mr. Rylko stated that he has worked with Mr. Kuenkler and IDOT and
both an underpass and an overpass would be unworkable due to the
expense and design constraints.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted the need for a continuous bikepath
which will connect to the five foot sidewalk on the east side of
Route 83 and to a crossing at Route 83.
Mr. Rylko stated that it might be a good idea to coordinate the
bikepath with the office property on the southeast corner.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked about the height of the hill between
the pool and the community center.
Mr. Kmiecik stated the mowable hill would be approximately 10 to
20 feet with a 3: 1 or 4: 1 slope.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted there may be a conflict between the
pool and the bandshell in terms of noises from the pool
interfering with bandshell activities.
Mr. Rylko stated that they have held the Lawn Chair Lyrics
directly next to the Willow Stream pool in the past and there was
never a problem with the two activities together.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked what kind of activities would occur
in the community center.
Mr. Rylko stated that the community center would have senior
programs, a running track, indoor soccer and basketball and a
great deal of program space.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked what the different wetland areas
would be like.
Mr. Kmiecik stated that IDOT is planting on the mitigated
wetlands. He stated that the wetlands would be occasionally wet
and marshy and another area would have shrubs. He noted that the
southern wetlands would be wooded and remain as is.
Commissioner Samuels noted that details are necessary relative to
the parking lot specifications for the public hearing.
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Mr. Kmiecik commented that 17 percent of the parking lot area will
be landscaped.
Commissioner Howard stated that it may be desirable to install
signs prohibiting traffic from turning on a red light at Route
83/Busch Road when pedestrians are present. She noted that
the Village's traffic consultant should review the plans.
Commissioner Samuels asked if there would be bathroom facilities
available in the northeast part of the site.
Mr. Rylko stated there are not plans for bathroom facilities at
this location.
Commissioner Samuels said bathroom facilities will definitely be
needed in this area of the site, and even if portable facilities
have to be used, something has to be done to provide for the
families who will be using the park.
The Commission noted the following items to be addressed at the
public hearing:
1. Parking areas and amount of parking - details on number of
spaces, dimensions and landscaping;
2 . Lighting plan for the northeast corner if lighting is
proposed;
3 . Widening of sidewalk on east side of Route 83 from 5 feet to
8 feet;
4. Bikepath connections to a Route 83 crossing and the office
site to the south of the park property;
5. Village traffic consultant to review plans;
6. Bathroom facilities for northeast area of the site, possibly
temporary facilities before nature center with facilities is
constructed.
AMOCO SERVICE STATION. SOUTHWEST CORNER OF LAKE COOK ROAD/ROUTE 83
REZONING TO THE B-2 DISTRICT AND PRELIMINARY PLAN -- WORKSHOP #3
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted concern with a memo received from
the Village of Wheeling regarding the fact that the property is
not currently zoned B-4 and a rezoning would be necessary for the
site.
Mr. Graham stated he had not received a copy of said memo in his
packet.
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Commissioner Samuels stated that the memo from Wheeling suggested
that a B-4 zoning would be necessary as the property is presently
zoned B-3 and to date no such request had been received.
Mr. Graham stated that it would be nice to have a joint meeting
between the two villages. However, since the primary site would be
located in Buffalo Grove, it was determined to proceed with
Buffalo Grove first. He further stated that the portion which
would be in Wheeling is an insignificant part. He noted that
whether the portion in Wheeling will require zoning is a debatable
issue and is something that can be worked out. He stated that they
have repeatedly attempted to comply with every comment and
criticism that Buffalo Grove has set forth and they have prepared
another site plan and landscape plan which incorporate the ideas
expressed at the last meeting.
Commissioner Rosenston stated that Mr. Graham had previously
stated that everything was fine with Wheeling and now the letter
from Wheeling states that there is a great deal of concern on
their part to this plan. He noted his concern that Buffalo Grove
is about to finalize something that Wheeling has a great many
problems with. He suggested that it may beneficial to consult with
Wheeling to determine the exact nature and concerns they face
before any final plans are sought.
Commissioner Samuels stated that the letter from Wheeling states
the only way of providing the site with water and sewer is to use
Buffalo Grove water and sewer for property that is in Wheeling and
Cook county; Wheeling states that Buffalo Grove service of
property in Wheeling has never occurred before. He asked if this
is a resolvable legal question.
Mr. Graham stated he thinks this can be worked out.
Commissioner Krug stated that he would like the plan to be
presented as it has been improved from its original design. He
further stated the legal problems between the developer, Buffalo
Grove and Wheeling should be worked out among the attorneys.
Trustee Marienthal stated that Buffalo Grove will not grant any
access to its utilities outside of the corporate limits.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel stated that Wheeling has raised some
concerns with the landscaping portion of the plan which is in
great part in their area.
Mr. Graham stated the problems with Wheeling will be resolved at a
later time. He noted that the plan should be reviewed by Buffalo
Grove first and then the other matters will be dealt with. He
stated that the best place to start was with Buffalo Grove as it
is the heart of the development.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted that the landscaping plan is a very
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significant part of the plan in terms of the amenities, utilities,
traffic flow and overall landscaping. He noted his concern that a
vote would be made based on the plan which would turn out to be
something entirely different when presented to Wheeling.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked staff to consult with the Village
Attorney for some guidance on dealing with this matter and asked
that we keep Wheeling advised on this matter.
Mr. Pfeil stated that when Wheeling requests copies of documents
Buffalo Grove provides the information.
Mr. Graham addressed the question of the 20 foot "cutout" on the
plan along the Route 83 right-of-way. He stated that the landowner
gave fee simple deeds on three parcels to Cook County in 1974 and
1975 in anticipation of the County's plan for the widening of Lake
Cook Road and Route 83. Cook County purchased an additional 15
feet on the south corner of Lake Cook Road and 10 feet along Route
83 . The 20 foot "cutout" along Route 83 was used for sloping
along the road. He further noted that the present owner will not
give up any more property for future road widening without
compensation. He commented that the value of the property is
concentrated in the north part of the property, the part that is
in Buffalo Grove.
Mr. Graham further stated that he knows of no other user who would
want to develop this property given the constraints of the site.
He further stated that he knows no reason why a responsible
corporate authority such as Wheeling would not want to see an area
on a floodplain covered with scrub brush developed into a useable
landscaped parklike environment.
Commissioner Samuels noted that there may be other interested
users who would not need to be situated entirely on the Lake
County side of the site.
Commissioner Berman stated the Plan Commission is simply trying to
develop the best possible plan for the community.
Mr. Rudd of Amoco Oil stated that access on Route 83 has now been
moved farther south and is now 155 feet from the line of the right
of way on Lake Cook Road per comments of the Plan Commission at
the previous workshop. He also noted that sidewalks are now shown
on the plan and the car wash has been modified so that no cars can
move around the car wash to use the exit located on Route 83 at
the exit to the car wash. The exit from the car wash has now been
located quite a distance from the corner.
Mr. Rudd further stated that the right-of-way is now 52 feet from
the closest pump and even if additional right of way is necessary
the closest pump will still be 42 feet from Lake Cook Road.
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Commissioner Rosenston asked what would happen to the sidewalk
when Lake Cook Road is widened for intersection improvements.
Mr. Rudd said that the sidewalk would have to be relocated.
Commissioner Berman asked what the distance is from the edge of
the canopy to the existing right-of-way.
Mr. Rudd stated the distance is 40 feet from the existing right-of
-way.
Commissioner Berman asked how much green space would be left along
the public streets when the widening is done for the intersection
improvements.
Mr. Graham stated that the green space would still be substantial.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked what the distance would be from the
new right-of-way line.
Mr. Rudd stated the distance would then be approximately 26 to 27
feet.
Mr. Panoyer stated that the inconsistency regarding the walnut
tree which he did not reflect in his tree survey is due to the
fact that a prior survey done by a previous firm some years back
did not make use of a field survey. He stated that he did spend
two days on a field survey and found no walnut tree.
Mr. Panoyer stated that the plan shows the trees which exist on
parcel 1. He stated that these trees are not preservable and the
proposed plan would replace these trees on a ratio of 2: 1. Those
trees that can be preserved along the creek line would not be cut
down and the bikepath would be placed along these trees. He
further stated that the landscaping to go on the Amoco site will
far surpass anything standing there and be a credit to the
community.
Mr. Panoyer stated that the plan calls for a 24 hour irrigation
system which does not waste water or add to ground water runoff.
He also noted that this will be a very maintainable landscape and
a credit to the community.
Mr. Rudd noted that Amoco had been given an award as project of
the year for one of their stations located in Wheeling.
Commissioner Krug stated that the petitioners had answered
everything they had been asked to address.
Commissioner Samuels stated he originally had objected to the car
wash as planned but now he does not object.
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Commissioner Rosenston stated that this plan is now workable, but
Buffalo Grove and the developer need to get input from the Village
of Wheeling to coordinate the planning and development of the
property.
Commissioner Howard said that she does not have problems with the
plan and she concurred with Commissioner Samuels that the car wash
is acceptable as shown on the revised plan.
Commissioner Berman asked if there would be any car wash runoff
that would enter the sewer leading to the Buffalo Creek.
Mr. Rudd stated there would be a water reclamation system for the
car wash to recycle the water. In all, about 85 percent of the
water is recycled and some fresh water is added as each car passes
through the rinse cycle. All the water then goes into a drain
inside which receives the overflow from the recycle pit and then
goes into the sanitary system.
Commissioner Samuels asked if there would be room for cars exiting
from the car wash to pass those motorists who have stopped to dry
off their cars.
Mr. Rudd stated that the road is 18 feet wide and can be further
widened to provide sufficient space for that purpose.
Commissioner Rosenston asked if there would be a vacuum system
outside of the car wash.
Mr. Rudd confirmed that there would be vacuums at the front of the
car wash to be used before entering the car wash.
Commissioner Rosenston stated that it would be a good idea to
provide some pull off ramps for people who wished to dry their
cars.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel stated that the major issue is still
traffic - both in relation to access to Lake Cook Road and
conflicts for internal site circulation. He stated that these
issues had still not been fully addressed. He noted his concern
with traffic backing up into the road whether Lake Cook Road is
widened or not and his concern with the internal circulation
because of the limited area for vehicle movements on the site near
the Lake Cook Road entrance. He said that he would like to see the
petitioner's traffic report.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel stated that the use is appropriate and the
issues concerning Wheeling can be worked out in such a way that
the approval given by Buffalo Grove is contingent upon approval of
the rest of the plan by Wheeling.
Trustee Marienthal noted that it is necessary to have the Village
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Engineer comment on the floodplain issue.
Mr. Pfeil stated that the Village Engineer has seen all the site
plans submitted by Amoco to date.
Commissioner Rosenston stated that he has a problem approving a
plan that another Village has concerns over. He stated that he
feels the petitioner should go to Wheeling and find out if there
are any major concerns or roadblocks to this plan.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel asked what should be done about a traffic
study.
Mr. Pfeil noted Mr. Graham has previously agreed to provide a
traffic study for the Village and its consultant to review.
Mr. Graham stated he will have a traffic study done for the public
hearing.
Commissioner Samuels stated the use is proper and he does not
think there is any other configuration that will make the plan any
better. He stated that as long as the developer is willing to live
with his own risks created from the internal traffic flow, then
that is his own business.
Mr. Pfeil stated that the public right-of-way needs to be
protected and if there is a problem then it should be studied even
if the problem cannot be cured entirely. Even internally, it
would be desirable to eliminate or minimize problems that will
result in the need for public services such police response to
accidents in the parking lot.
The Commission concurred that the project could be scheduled for
public hearing.
BUFFALO GROVE TOWN CENTER, UNIT 7 (BOSTON CHICKEN) - FINAL PLAT
Moved by Commissioner Rosenston, seconded by Commissioner Samuels
to recommend approval to the Village Board of the Final Plat of
Unit 7 in the Buffalo Grove Town Center dated August 5, 1993 , 2
pages.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel noted that there are a number of angles
missing on the west side of the northwest corner and stated he
would like the Village Engineer to check this to determine if any
thing has been omitted from the plat.
Vice Chairman Goldspiel called for a vote on the motion and the
vote was as follows:
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AYES: Krug, Howard, Rosenston, Samuels, Goldspiel
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: Berman
ABSENT: Silbernik, Rhodes, Genell
The motion passed 5 to 0.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT - None
FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE
Mr. Pfeil stated there would be a meeting on October 20, 1993
when a public hearing will be held concerning the Comerica Bank
plan.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS - None
STAFF REPORT - None
NEW BUSINESS - None
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Berman, seconded by Commissioner Howard and
carried unanimously to adjourn. Vice Chairman Goldspiel adjourned
the meeting at 9:50 p.m.
Respectf, ly sub ted,
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Fay Rubin, R cd"rding Secretary
AP ROVE BY•
St PH1.14 GO PIEL, Vice Chairman
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