1969-12-03 - Plan Commission - Minutes VILIACE 'BUFFALO G..CVE PI.LH COMMISSIO
December 2, 1339
L./
Attendance : ..-.
,o
,..s.
J. ;,,:, Berth, Chairman E. iaOiah (LnOfficis)
7 ',--4 .-4 ,. ..Z
L7j :i.k.:a.... •l' L;tC.'a'r (Viilage Znineer
. . )
S. Eaarr R. Decker CVillage Yanager)
71. Mendenha71 Absent: C. Genrich
•.-...-1 D. Zitzewitz “ M. Hoyt
•
The meeting was called to order at 8 : 03 P.M. Zitzewitz rr.ow,s1:
and S. Haarr seconded to approve the minutes of the Public Hearing
of November 12; approved unanimously. . J. Guidotti moved and S. 727aarr
seconded to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of November 19;
approved unanimously.
Chairman Berth briefly summarized actions taken by the ViiI.Ce
'Board in their meetings of November 24 and December 1. He said that
comments were made concerning the Clemente property that indicated
it could be approved as a non-conforming use in accordance wit!:
Article V of the Zoning Ordinance.
Because of the large crowd (appron 50 to 60 people) in attendnnce
to hear Richard Brown's prop‘. ed chances in his R-9 multiple f.,.,.wi.l%!
development north of the Cadaridge subdivision, Chairman Berth delayed
discussion of old business to later in the evening and asked Mr :17.31
.,V to present his proposal which is summarized as follows:
a. Ordinance No. 68-42 re-classified 2385 acres from 12,2 to a-9
district in accordance with Exhibits:A,B, and C which showed 4
buildings of 4 stories each that contained a total of 550-1 and
bedroom apartment units.
b. Mr. Brown requested approval to substitute Exhibits A.L3 and C':!.
for Exhibits A,B and C. Exhibit AA is an architects sketch pin of
the area dated 9-12-69 showing 7 buildings of which 2 are ideatifiee:
as 6 floors. Exhibit BE is an architect's rendering of a tyice.l.
4 story building. Exhibit CC is a data sheet which shows ahtotal of
512 units identified as apartment homes, more commonly called con.f.o :LnL:..:Lb,
c. Purchase prices will be between 4;26, 0.00 and .$41,000 , No cT:1:L1 =
u.nder 14 yeays ol aft; will be aiiol,:i . There :;, 11 be sullioien
::.oul-ld parking to provide 1 parkin oaae Lsr each unit. An
.1. parking space per unit wiil be orovided outside. There will be L-
,
four story and 2-six story buildings with 64 units per Ouildin and
L../ 16 units per floor. Sizes of the units will. be 957 SF for 1 7a;
1248 and 1536 SF for 2 23. and 1946 37 for 3 na uni P.,,iad ts . 14--, ---------•
will be about 16% vs 35% allowable and floor area ratio will be &b,c.1.
.3 vs 1.5 allowable. The . projects total value is $16 million.
L./
. L./
1
•
\./ `./
• Q. Mr. Rod Ensley - Why can't the S story units be relocat cd a nc..
still be able to se__ the units?
A. Mr. Brown - No matter where they are located, someone will object .
Q. Mr. "..'ost - Since :C nst c"tio n will :�'C>t;'�ess in a clockwise
•
fashion, why not con: " .:ucS. th last L unit , as the 6 story?
A. (No a s a-,, recorded. )
Q. 1,r. Gene rey - If 6 story building is only 100 feet from the
property line, this will adversely .affect property values .
a
Why not move :.them to Dundee Road?
A. (a) c. . Berth - This zoned which noheight
property is zo .cd R-9 e' �: has
�..� restriction.
(b) Mr. Brown - I refused to sell this property to a big Chicago
builder who wanted to put in very' dense units.
• Q. M- >^_f ,7 hit 1 - T t r n r s t 4 t G] 7 or ,) h r.r
i�. t..:s. CerL`".c..l:L` 4'! is..c 1L c�.�)�ea.:_,s ti.tlr3t N..�'2�. Vlll�.ge Z°sC one. ii�::...`
can do anything about this change?
A. (a) Mt. Brown - That is essentially correct except that the
village can stop it.
(b) Mr. Berth - Public hearings are held for all :ire-annexation •
requests and •are published in the newspaper. The public has
opportunity to voice their opinions at those hearings
Q. Mr. John Walker -. If drainage from Dundee Road is taken into
the lake, what will this do to the drainage in my back yard?
• A. Mr. Brown - Drainage will be away from your house.
Q. iL. Jim Bradshaw - What are the chances of their being no
6 story buildings?
A. Mr. Brown - About 50-50.
Q. Mr. Tom Rappel - What is the height of the highest building?
A. Mr. Brown - About 60 feet.
Q. Mr. Rappel - Can 't something be done to correct the water 'problem
before this development is built?
A. M.r. Berth - This will be considered.
Mr.. John Smythen - If this plan is accepted, what guarantee- is
there that no further buildings will be added later? '
A. Mr. Brown - The ordinance contrors this... Exhibit CC limits it
to 512 units.
Q. Mr. Lang - I appeal to Mr. Brown to give serious consideration
to chan'Jin�'' the 6 story concept. •
a��.a2i A. I will study this and possibly move one if not both buildi.n s
•
Q. Mr:. Walter Fuller - I am concerned aboutthewatersupply
about
vest i/i J
and drainage problem. What will prevent water from draining
back to my property?
A. Mr. Berth - The Village Engineer approves drainage plans
Q. Mr. Fuller - Will the viilage assure no drainage problem?
A. Mr. Berth - Cannot guarantee this. ,
Q. Mr. Marty Clifford - If accepted, will Mr. Brown be held :o
his plan?
A. Mr. Berth - Yes.
Q. Mr. Clifford - If not accepted, will he be held to his previous
plan?
A. Mr. Fabish - No, he can revert to R-9 and build anything then.
Mr. Clifford - _I recommend that he be held to original :. � :ibits
• A,B and C.
Q. Mr. Rod Ensley - Will the trees to be used in landscaping be
mature?
A. Mr. Brown - We will try to save the majority of existingt.re<,..`.s'
but may lose some because of the drainage grading.
3
• , • Q. Mr. Dick Peterson - '!S y has construction already started?
A. Mr. Brown -. .A temporary building skiing is going up for display of model
7. .�`t ,ent
�a✓G! irili`t4 f..5.
Q. Mr. Frank McCue - .ow can we "o ahead by adding all these units
when the e:.i ,ting water problem ha:3 i.i;;. been resolved?
A. (a) Mr. Fabish - Bend'swillsold s they
not o?
be .3ov+a, If are sold,
w l l building
Lilifwg permits will be stopped.
M Brown Buffalo isbound by contract
(b) i.r. - The ..,�..:.�fc:lo Utility Co.
to furnish water to this development. If water is not available,
• we will not proceed with the construction.
At this point Chairman Berth ended the receipt of questions from
the audience.
J. Cuidotti moved�y to table action
yyo�` this :efcuestuntil the i e::t
meeting on December 17 to give Mr. Brown n an opportunity to meet with
his architect for considering relocating the 6 story buildings.
S. Haa.rr seconded the motion. At this point '.sir. Brown stated that
he would relocate the 6 story building at the south end to the north-
west corner but will have to check into the second one. The motion
was voted on without change with yes votes from M n 3rr, Z i .zew_t v and
Cuidotti. Mendenhall voted no. It passed 3 to 1 . After the motion
passed, Mr. Brown said he is withdrawing his offer to move the one
building and left the• meeting.
Back to old business, Chairman Berth said that the Plan Commission
s,ould start a liaison with the Zoning Board of Appeals and invited
all members to attend a Board meeting to be held December ii .
Chairman Berth presented his report on the R-9 height limitation
study and. said that since the Plan Commission al:.'eady submitted this
matter to the Village Board who did not respond favorably, it should
be dropped at this time and brought up again vent May.
Chairman Berth suggested that work shop sessions to review
ordinance changes should start again after the ist of the year.
It was noted that two professed applicants to fill vacancies on
the Plan Commission were in attendance, Mr. Larry Gaamm was at his
• second meeting and Mr. John Walker at his first ,
J. Cuidotti moved to adjourn the meeting; seconded by S -aarr;
approved unanimously.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
Respectfuil submitted:
5 t , .c7-, .
0.:i`; GUILUTTI
Acting Secretary .
It