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1973-01-31 - Plan Commission - Minutes e Lk BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION De)'. PUBLIC HEARING - FIRE STATION `./ JANUARY 31, 1973 Chairman, Carl Genrich, called the Public Hearing to order at 8 :15 P.M. on January 31, 1973. \./ Commissioners Present : Mr. Genrich, Chairman Mr. Yost Mr. Haarr Mr. Harris Mr. Mendenhall Mr. VanEngen Mr. Gamm Mrs. Rech Mr. Fader Commissioners Absent: Mr. VanHoorebeke Also present was Mr. Arnold Seaberg, Village Engineer, Mr. Randall Rathjen, Village Trustee, and Mr. Howard Kiester, prospective member. Fire Chief Wayne Winter was asked to step forward and was sworn in. Chief Winter stated that the parcel of land they have taken an option on is on the south side of Dundee Road near the Kingswood Methodist Church and consists of 6.4 acres. They only require 2 acres but the owners would not sell only part of it, but they feel they can get enough money for the remaining 4.4 acres to pay for the entire parcel. He said they are requesting R-1 zoning for the unused portion of the land so the purchaser will have to come before the Plan Commission for a change in zoning. Chief Winter said the Fire Station will be a four (4) bay station instead of the two (2) bay they now have. The office space is off to the east side, the entrance road would be to the east side and separate from the exits used by the fire vehicles so you do not have cross traffic. The height of the building is 20 feet. The roof is designed to hold six (6) inches of slow-release water for retention. There is room for a Fire Prevention Bureau and the Administrative Offices. This would be the main Fire Station in the Village. There is an emergency exit out the back and there is no post so that any vehicle could be maneauvered out that door. The basement will be finished by the firemen themselves as the money becomes available for materials. All of the mechanical equipment such as heating will be in the basement. t./ Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Fire Station Public Hearing January 31, 1973 `.J Page 2 Commissioner Fader asked why they had chosen Dundee Road because of the traffic. Chief Winter said that is the main reason, be- cause it is desirable to be located on a main arterial street. Where the Station is located now, they have to go through resi- dential areas and their speed is cut down considerably. Dundee Road will be four lanes by the time the Station would be completed and then people will be able to move their cars out of the way. The location is also good because it is right in the middle of the east and west boundaries of the Village. He said they will be keeping the west portion of the present Station and keep an ambulance, Squad, truck and pumper in this Station because there is some talk of the Lake County portion of the Village coming into our Fire District. When further development occurs, we would then build a Station north of Highway 83 and move out of the Municipal Building Station completely, so we would always have two Stations. Commissioner Fader said he would like to see the Station more centrally located. Chief Winter said they may eventually have more men in the north side Station, but the Administration �./ Offices would always remain in this one. He also said the traffic signals will be controlled automatically with the signal used to call the men to a fire. The lights will all stop at red giving the men a chance to get to the Station. Chief Winter said if they are given approval, it will be 12-18 months to complete the Station. Commissioner Yost asked what effect will this Station have on the rating of the District. Chief Winter said it will remain the same and always will until their Department covers the whole Village, because they do not like a Village broken up into two Districts. He said our present rating is 8 and if Lake County Buffalo Grove does change to this District, he would expect the rating to be around 6. L./ Commissioner Mendenhall asked if there were other sites of fewer acres on Dundee Road. Chief Winter said they have checked into all property within the area the Rating Bureau gives us and there is nothing. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Fire Station Public Hearing January 31, 1973 Page 3 \,/ Commissioner Harris asked what area the Wheeling Fire District operates in. Chief Winter said Wheeling, Prospect Heights and Buffalo Grove are all included in this District. Comm. Harris asked if they can go to fires outside the District. Chief Winter said yes, they have a mutual aid agreement. Commissioner Harris said he is concerned about them using the taxpayers ' money to buy more land than they need. Chief Winter said they have been trying for three months to sell the remain- ing parcel and they hope to get back the entire cost of the original parcel. Commissioner Gamm asked what if the proposed purchaser comes to us for R-9 zoning. Because you have to sell this land, there will be pressures on us to give him the zoning he wants . Commissioner Haarr asked if this land is exactly west of the Methodist Church. Chief Winter said yes. Comm. Haarr asked why they needed B-1 zoning. Chief Winter said that is the most restrictive zoning allowing a Fire Station. Commissioner Rech asked who will pay for the lights . Chief Winter said they will. Comm. Rech asked if their trucks will be able to turn around on the property. Chief Winter said yes. Comm. Rech asked where their water supply will come from. Chief Winter said that in the cost of the Station construction, is the cost of a well. Comm. Rech asked what about when Dundee Road floods and traffic is backed up. Chief Winter said it is hoped that when Dundee Road is completed, it will not flood, but if that does happen, they would have equipment at the Municipal Building Station. Mr. Seaberg said the Village is going to put in a water line on the north side of Dundee Road. Chairman Genrich asked him how he felt about a Fire Station at the proposed site. Mr. Seaberg said he thinks it is fine. Also, there will be a drainage system on Dundee Road and there should be no flooding. It is also on the highest ground on Dundee Road between Arlington Heights Road and Buffalo Grove Road. Chief Winter said they anticipate putting in an Emergency Command Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Fire Station Public Hearing January 31, 1973 Page 4 Center in the basement of this building. Also, people in Lake County are organizing now to try to get together to vote on a referendum to come into this District and form a Municipal Fire District. This would add $7.00 per year on their taxes and re- duce their Homeowner' s Insurance by $5.00 per $10, 000 of insurance. He said they cannot initiate this movement themselves. Only the people in the area in question must do it. Commissioner Gamm asked if the Station will take up all of the frontage on Dundee Road and how far will it be from the homes in Mill Creek. Chief Winter said it will not take up all the frontage and it will be approximately 450 feet from the Mill Creek homes. Chairman Genrich asked if they would have any objections to having this property revert back to R-1 if it is not used for a Fire Station. Chief Winter said they have no objections. In answer to a question from Chairman Genrich, Chief Winter said the District Trustees have been appointed in the past but he thinks they will be elected in the near future because of the size and wealth of the District. Chairman Genrich asked what kind of setback will they have in comparison with the Church setback. Chief Winter said they will not be set back that far. Chairman Genrich stated that we have a nice-looking Church there and you will not be able to see it until you are almost there. Chief Winter said they are quite a ways from the Church (about 300 feet) and the Church is taller. Commissioner Yost said they had labelled the extra land behind the building as future parking. What is this for? Chief Winter said they anticipate renting out the basement for receptions, dances, etc. Commissioner Harris asked how and when we collect Annexation fees. Trustee Rathjen said he did not know. Upon questioning, Chief Winter said if they get a Municipal Fire District, the second Station would be put at the cornee of future Buffalo Grove Road and Busch Road. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Fire Station Public Hearing January 31, 1973 Page 5 Commissioner Rech asked what their plans would be if we annex the area east of the industrial area. Chief Winter said then another Station would have to be considered. Commissioner Fader asked if we could condemn the two acres they need since the owner will not sell that much of it separately. Chief Winter said this has been considered, but if we condemned it, we have to pay the going price for the two acres, which would be $120,000, and the way we are trying to work it, we would be able to get that all back by selling the remaining 4.5 acres. Commissioner Harris asked Chief Winter to please have their attorney add to Paragraph 7 that the fees usually charges by the Village that are in effect at the time a Building Permit is applied for, would apply to Parcel 2 and you hereby agree to pay an Annexation Fee of $100 for each residential unit construct- ed on Parcel 2. Commissioner Mendenhall said he agrees with Commissioner Fader that the condemnation route is the way to go. Chief Winter said it would be a lot more expensive because they feel they will definitely get their entire purchase price back. Chairman Genrich closed the Hearing at 9 :37 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Recording Secretat Approved: Carl Genrich, Chairman /t MINUTES OF THE BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING HELD ON JANUARY 31, 1973 Chairman, Carl Genrich, called the meeting of the Buffalo Grove Plan Commission to order at 10 :05 P.M. on January 31, 1973. Commissioners Present: Mr. Genrich, Chairman Mr. Yost Mr. Haarr Mr. Harris Mr. Mendenhall Mr. VanEngen Mr. Gamm Mrs. Rech Mr. Fader Commissioners Absent: Mr. VanHoorebeke Also present was Mr. Arnold Seaberg, Village Engineer, Mr. Randall Rathjen, Village Trustee, and Mr. Howard Kiester, prospective member. Chairman Genrich stated that Saturday, February 10, will be a Lake County Homebuilders Association Community Development Con- ference. Commissioner Gamm said he would be able to attend. \./ Commissioner Mendenhall made the motion, and Commissioner Haarr seconded the motion, to approve the minutes of the meeting of January 3, 1973, as corrected: On Page 4, line 1, change the word "or" to "of" ; Page 5, second paragraph from the bottom, change "make a motion" to "amend the motion" ; Page 6, 4th para- graph, change "make a motion" to "amend the motion" ; Page 6, paragraph 6, change "made the motion" to "made the suggestion" and change the last sentence of this paragraph to "A straw vote was taken with a vote of 6-3 in favor. " ; Page 6, paragraph 7, change "made the motion" to "made the recommendation" ; Page 7, paragraph 6, change the last sentence to read "We sat through three meetings and they did not like the plan relative to those projects. ". Motion carried. Commissioner Gamm made the motion to approve the minutes of the Gregg Public Hearing of January 17, 1973, as written. Commissioner Mendenhall seconded the motion. Motion carried. Commissioner Mendenhall made the motion, and Commissioner Gamm seconded the motion, to approve the minutes of the Lieberman Public Hearing of January 17, 1973, with the following correc- tion : Page 3, last paragraph, should read"Kemmerley Real Estate" instead of "Kingswood Methodist Church". Motion carried. 1/31/73 Commissioner Mendenhall made the motion to approve the minutes of the regular meeting of January 17, 1973, as submitted. Comm- issioner Fader seconded the motion. Motion carried. Chairman Genrich said the Village Board had a Hearing until 1 :30 Monday night and continued it Tuesday night. They agreed the area east of the manufacturing area to Milwaukee Avenue should be low-density PUD. They made a change in Phoenix that the north and south portions may or may not be approved for something of higher density than R-1 by the Village Board, and if it is not approved, the builder may take them to court. If he does, the Village would be on unstable ground. They are also discussing an office of some sort in School District #96. Commissioner Fader said he did not see why this same logic they applied to the Phoenix property does not apply to the Swanson property. at Pup cia-7e. lea Commissioner Haarr regarding the incentives on the PUD Ordinance. Comm. Haarr made the motion that these changes and ones given out last week be included in the PUD and given to the village Board and that this be incorporated as our Official PUD Ordinance. Commissioner VanEngen seconded the \./ motion. Motion carried unanimously. Commissioner Gamm made the motion the meeting be adjourned at 10 :30 P.M. Commissioner Mendenhall seconded the motion. Motion carried. Respectfully submitted, Recording Secreted Approved : m /� Carl Genrich, Chairman