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1973-07-11 - Plan Commission - Minutes VILLAGE OF ��, BUFFALO GROVE MattleA mo d. 9c7f e, �/,l. 09090 PRELIMINARY MINUTES - NOT APPROVED MINUTES OF THE BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING HELD ON JULY 11 , 1973 Chairman, Carl Genrich, called the meeting to order at 8:20 P.M. , July 11 , 1973, in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard Commissioners Present: Mr. Genrich, Chairman Mr. Keister Mr. Haarr, Asst. Chairman Mr. Mendenhall Mr. Gamm Mr. Shields Mr. Harris_ Mr. Van Engen Pizza Hut representative, Mr. John Reiche, 10225 Kellogg Avenue, Wichita, Kansas also present. Mr. Allen Foss, Dominion Developer was present. Mr. Foss presented: 1 ) the development site for Pizza Hut Restaurant 2) the development site for small office building The Pizza Hut building is to be 30' x 60' and the office building will require 2,500 , sq. ft. Exhibit A, Plat of subdivision and Exhibit B, Site Plan were shown. Mr. Genrich asked about the original plan. Mewed Mr. Foss shillged original plan and described the new plan, which proposes an office building, filling station, Pizza Hut and real estate building. Mr. Haarr - questioned whether existing zoning was for 82. This was confirmed by reading old annexation agreement (May 8,1972) Mr. Mendenhall indicated that he felt that fragmenting the 2 acre parcel was the wrong thing to do. He questioned the location of office and size of it. Mr. Mendenhall also wanted to know the failure rate of Pizza Huts. Mr. Reiche inidcated that all Chicago Pizza Huts are co-owned and described financial backings. Mr. Mendenhall asked Mr. Foss what plans are in store for the southern end of the ' parcel . Mr. Foss answered that he did not know. Mr. Mendenhall stated he was not happy with the small parcel open for development. Mr. Foss indicated that a food store or office building could be located on southern end. Mr. Mendenhall indicated that we are closing ourselves in to less desirable buildings on the rest of the property. Mr. Shields expressed concern about parking allocated for the office building. Mr. Foss stated that there is a common driveway owned by Foss Real Estate Office. The question of beer being sold in the Pizza Hut was raised by Mr. Shields. Mr. Reiche answered yes. \ . Mr. Haarr indicated that the annexation agreement does not allow taverns. Mr. Foss told Mr. l;m AA he was wrong per agreement. Mr. Haarr then agreed. Page 2 Minutes of the Plan Commission July 11 , 1973 Mr. Keister made the following statements: 1. Subdividing parcel is not most efficient use of property. 2. Original plat is more desirable 3. Questioned location of entrance to office building. L Mr. Ross showed Mr. Keister the layout of the entrance to office building. Mr. Todd Trayser, Appearance Commission was asked to speak. He indicated that the Appearance Commission has not met as a whole, but have to date approved the gas station. Several of Mr. Trayser's comments were questioned by Mr. Foss. Mr. Genrich commented on Foss's statements - We hate to see this land developed in pieces rather than via a planned development concept as initially indicated by the developer. Ar e Mr. expressed concern of the chopping affect and resulting driveways from each parce on Buffalo Grove Road. Mr. Gamm confirmed Mr. Trayser's statements about the major concern of the Village. Mr. Gamin does not favor this plan from a land use standpoint. Mr. Van Engen - How are you going to handle storm water? Mr. Foss - concrete pipes underground will store it. Mr$,Gamm asked where this will be located. She feels that Dundee Road should not be developed like this. Close of Public Hearing 9:12. Respectfully submitted ecording Secretary Approved: /"th-"j Genrich, C airman 44.4.L. '7-/1- 73 ah 1 J� VILLAGE OF � , , BUFFALO GROVE r*'aftio Xke . e9IuP 9 , WCC. 60090 PRELIMINARY MINUTES - NOT APPROVED MINUTES OF THE BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING HELD ON JULY 11 , 1973 Mr. Carl Genrich, Chairman, called the meeting to order at 9:22 P.M. , July 11 , 1973 in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard. Commissioners Present: Mr. Genrich, Chairman Mr. Keister Mr. Haarr, Asst. Chairman Mr. Mendenhall Mr. Gamin Mr. Sheilds Mr. Harris Mr. Van Engen Discussion of Dominion Property: Mr. Mendenhall agreed with Mr. Trayser's comments, about the fear of strip develop- ment and being unable to stop it. Mr. Shields motioned to approve revised site plan for Dominion Property. Motion seconded by Howard Mendenhall . Discussion followed. Mr. Keister did not agree with the office building and strip parcels as originally proposed to village at annexation time. He felt he could not vote for this plan to include the office. Mr. Haarr also indicated that he did not want to see this area of the village chopped up. The motion was carried to vote: Ayes - 0 Nayes - 7 Mr. Foss then indicated that the office building could be el iminated©sE,c,4A p.a,.aa. , 5. : ate Mr. Shields motioned to accept and amend the site plan with only the Pizza Hut omit. Motion seconded by Mr. Mendenhall . Discussion - Mr. Mendenhall indicated that this does not eliminate the problem on Dundee Road. Motion carried to vote: Ayes - 0 Nayes - 7 Discussion of Chesterfield Development: za.Ln4z4A) Mr. Hillman, Attorney Marlin Smith and Mr. Herb Zattsman-were present. Mr. Hillman requested final approval on area now called Arrow Head. On April 13th site plans and building plans were submitted to the Building Commission. He appeared to the Appearance Commission on April 17th to get o.k. Mr. Dan Larson asked them to meet with Mr. Paul Swanson to work out new sewer main and serve both properties. Village is designing and sent out for bids. 1.i Mr. Seaberg pointed that some items needed correction on the Site Engineering Survey. It was indicated that the real problem is dedication of property to Lake-Cook Road. „mp - 2 - . Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Plan Commission July 11 ,1973 Mr. Hillman wanted a decision tonight on moving of the entire site plan 10' north to provide the 30' R-0-W for Lake-Cook Road. Discussion from the Commission: Mr. Genrich - asked if Mr. Hillman could meet a 20' set-back in the rear (north) of the subdivision. Mr. Swanson was in agreement with a 20' set-back. Mr. Hillman indicated that it was impossible to meet a 20' set-back and preserve original site plan. Carl Genrich: You did not say to me you could not meet the 20' set-back Mr. Smith stated the following: We are here in an effort to work this out in a spirit of cooperation. Mr. Chesterfield wants to get underway this Fall. This plat of subdivision was a discussion of many meetings and was approved by the Village. The final plat conforms with the preliminary plat and should be approved. The proposed solutions were made: (Per R9 ordinance) 1 ) Treat Arlington Heights Road as front lot line - back of lot is east of property and is not affected by shifting of subdivision to the north. 2) R9 side yard specs quoted of 12' for the north and south of the plan. Moving the whole unit to the north would comply to the side yard requirements. Mr. filindicated that the preliminary plan and not plat was approved. Mr. Smith indicated that annexation agreement called for approval of preliminary plat. •�C Mr. ' teA said - you refer to the whole property as one lot. This must be referred `.\./ to r. Raysa to see if it is one or many lots. Mr. Genrich stated after much discussion that he wanted to review the plan and the problem or error made regarding set-back requirements. He also asked how a 15' set-back would affect the Swanson development. Mr. Genrich asked Mr. Seaberg if an extra 20' could be waived - Mr. Seaberg said no. Mr. Harris asked Mr. Smith if this could be a reverse corner lot. Mr. Smith did not think so per the diagram drawn by him on the board. Mr. Mendenhall wants Village to explore moving Lake-Cook Road the South and leaving the subdivision alone. rr""'- 446 Mr.4arNMPrndicated 46ap—thome. are 2 lternatives011) Get Raysa to give us a legal opinion. 2) Disapprove plat and let Village Board decide what to do with it. Mr. Harris asked where the property line on Lake Cook Road is. 20' north of center of Lake-Cook Road 'was answer. Mr. Harris said we should accept the plan and let the Board u worry about the R-O-W. Mr. Harris motioned that we recommend to Village Board that developer be permitted to revise preliminary development plan to include shifting entire plan 5' north and provide for a 40' dedication along southern boundary along Lake-Cook Road and to further recommend that a 20' set-back along north and south boundary line be accepted. Motion seconded by Mr. Mendenhall . Ayes - 6 Nayes - 0. Mr. Harris moved that we approve minutes of July 5th as amended. Motion seconded by Mr. Shields. Approved via voice vote. Mr. Haarr abstained. - 3 - • Minutes of the Regular Meeting of the Plan Commission July 11 ,1973 Discussion of Levitt Development: Mr. Cambell , Engineering representative for Levitt, commented on traffic study made by village consultant. uestioned continuation of collector road through to end of east boundary line, b ause of location of 83 and Aptakisic Road being so close. He also stated: 2) Central core density of the project is low enough that the need for a larger collector road is not needed. 3) Pavement widths and R-O-W widths should be wider. He stated that our ordinance requires a 27' width which they did not meet. 4) The need for culdesacs to provide a Hammer Head Culdesac with fire hydrants at each end. Mr. Seaberg recommended 24' streets to be made 26' streets. He recommended making Larchmont Drive an 80' R-0-W down through Mayflower Road and take the "T" intersection out. Mr. Genrich reported that Mr. Raysa said that the 6,000 sq. ft. lot in R6 zoning could be given by ZBA or we could recommend directly to Village Board. Mr. Cambell - we will abide by the R6 side yard requirement. Mr. Mendenhall motioned to recommend approval of the rezoning request from R9 to R6 and recommend the Village Board take the necessary steps to grant the variation in lot size and R-0-W in accordance to plan submitted (Exhibit A). Motion seconded by Mr. Keister. Motion carried to vote. Mr. Haarr abstained. Ayes - 6 Nayes - 0. Motion was made by Mr. Haarr to amend the preliminary development plan of Koelper- DeMuth parcel for the previous R9 and R6 as seen in exhibit A. Motion seconded by Mr. Mendenhall . Discussion: Levitt agreed to eliminate "T" intersection in collector road in center of parcel per Mr. Seaberg's recommendatioi . Motion carried to vote. Mr. Haarr abstained. Ayes - 5 Nayes - 1. Mr. 4011,absIained because he had not attended the public hearing on the Levitt Project. "41 The Regular meeting was adjourned at 12:25 P.M. Respectfully submitted Recording S etary Approved: 62/ _tt,e,L4 cari enr c , Chairman a