1973-08-22 - Plan Commission - Minutes PRELIMINARY MINUTES NOT APPROVED
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MINUTES OF THE
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
WORKSHOP SESSION
AUGUST 22, 1973
Chairman, Carl Genrich, called the meeting to order at 8:20 P.M. , August 22,
1973, in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard.
Commissioners Present: Mr. Genrich, Chairman Mr. Gamm (left at 10 P.M)
Mr. Haarr, Asst. Chairman Mr. Keister
Mr. Van Engen, Secretary Mr. Mendenhall
Mr. Shields
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Harris:
Also Present: Mr. Arnold Seaberg, Village Engineer
Mr. Ron Helms - Appearance Commission
MARQUARDT PROPERTY (VW Dealership)
Those respresenting this project were:
Mr. C. W. Marquardt, Jr. - owner of the dealership
Mr. J. L. McCabe, Attorney
Mr. McCabe addressed the Commission regarding the Marquardt property and
petitioned on behalf of the Harris Trust and Savings Bank, presently the owner
of the property. Mr. Marquardt is the purchaser. Mr. McCabe advised the
Commission that it is the desire of his client, Mr. Marquardt, to erect a VW
Dealership on this site and asked that this property be annexed to the Village of
Buffalo Grove. He requested a B-4 Zoning with a variation, as the property is
only 3.9496 acres instead of the 4 acres required in B-4. Mr. McCabe presented
a schematic which gave a rough idea of what was proposed by his client, showing
the sales section of the agency and a service garage which would be on the
north one-third of the property. The present plan calls for 4 driveways
separating the service area from the sales area.
Commissioner Van Engen asked Mr. Marquardt how much experience he had in the
automobile business. Mr. Marquardt stated that he has been an oldsmobile dealer
for twenty-five years. Commissioner Van Engen asked it if was absolutely
essential to have used cars stacked along the front of the property and suggested
that the front be landscaped. Mr. McCabe indicated that the areas immediately
in front of the building would be used for customer parking.
Mr. Helms, Appearance Commission, indicated that most automobile manufacturers
required that dealerships be constructed on nothing less than 3 acres because
of expansion purposes.
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August 22, 1973
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Commissioner Mendenhall asked if there would be a ground level sign. It was
indicated by Mr. Marquardt that this was no problem. He also stated that the
building would have a mansard roof giving the dealership a rustic appearance.
One building will be 16' high and the other building will include an office
area.
Commissioner Shields asked if there would be some provision for a sidewalk
and asked if the property would have a convertability for domestic cars.
Commissioner Van Engen asked how far the building was setback. Commissioner
Mendenhall stated that it would be setback approximately 74' from the R-O-W.
A discussion on the zoning followed.
Commissioner Haarr suggested that the property be zoned B-3 with special use
instead of B-4. Everyone present agreed.
Commissioner Shields requested that Mr. Marquardt adhere to the following:
1 ) Draft a new annexation agreement
2) Meet with the Appearance Commission
3) Add a clause in the annexation agreement indicating that if the
owner decides to make any major changes in the preliminary plan
as approved, that they agree to come before the Plan Commission
and the Village Board for any changes.
4) Add a clause in the annexation agreement restricting the
property so as not to sell or service any trucks over 12 tons.
5) Agree to B-3 zoning with special use (to be included in the
annexation agreement)
6) Agree to building a sidewalk ( to be included in the annexation
agreement)
It was agreed that another Workshop Session be held regarding this property
on September 5, 1973 at 8:30 P.M. Chairman, Genrich, indicated that there
was no reason why a public hearing could not be scheduled in the interim.
HEITKOTTER PROPERTY (Flowershop)
Those representing this project were:
Mr. Austin Brodman, Owner
Mr. James Milton Ray, Architect
Mr. William J. Moore, Attorney
Mr. Moore petitioned the Village of Buffalo Grove for an annexation of this
property with B-1 zoning to allow for a retail flower shop and R-5 residential
zoning for the balance of the property. Property is a little over 100,000 square
feet. The barn will not be structurally altered but will be given a new coat of
paint. Concept of the use of the ground is to maintain the present beauty.
Mr. Brodman has operated a flower shop in the Old General Store across from
St. Mary's. It was proposed that no real significant changes are to be made
on this property, if they are annexed to the Village. Parking area is already
gravelled. The customer entrance will be where the barn door entrance is now.
There is no need to abandon any of the existing structure and only interior
remodeling will be done.
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Commissioner Mendenhall asked about the shed on the balance of the property.
It was indicated that the shed would be used for storage.
Commissioner Haarr asked the height of the barn. Mr. Ray indicated that the
barn was approximately 40' high. Chairman Genrich indicated that an "existing
non-conforming use" zoning be used to allow for such a high building. He
also asked for a draft of the annexation agreement.
Mr. Moore complimented the Commission on this informal meeting in order to
have this discussion. They are willing to landscape according to the Commission's
suggestions.
Commissioner Mendenhall informed Mr. Brodman that if they had to alter or
significantly change the structure of the building that they would have to
come before the Commission again.
Mr. Moore asked Commissioner Haarr if they should submit a plat to subdivide
this plot into areas 1 and 2, in order to designate residential from commercial .
Commissioner Haarr suggested that the property be zoned R-1 .
Commissioner Shields asked if they were planning to have a gift line in the
flowershop. Mr.Brodman stated that there would be a gift line.
Commissioner Mendenhall asked about sewer and water facilities. He feels that
they would have to tie into the village. Mr. Seaberg stated that the closest
water tie would be at Checker Road and Rt. 83. Commissioner Mendenhall stated
that this would be too expensive. The Commission requires a statement from
Mr. Brodman to the extent that he would tie into sewer and water lines with
no expense to the Village.
Commissioner Shields indicated to Mr. Moore that a clause be inserted in the
annexation agreement indicating that they could not have a tavern or restaurant
on the property.
Chairman Genrich asked the following:
1 ) If Mr. Brodman planned on going into the nursery business.
Mr. Brodman replied, "No".
2) that if any major changes to the structure of the building
needed to be made that they come before the Plan Commission
again for approval .
3) that they meet with the Appearance Commission
4) If they would be agreeable to a living screen around the parking
area. He would like to see this in the agreement,
5) If they would agree to sidewalks if the Commission felt at
some future date that a sidewalk was necessary,
6) that height of the barn be covered by "existing non-conforming
use" zoning,
7) that they meet with Mr. Seaberg regarding water and sewer,
8) that the annexation agreement indicate that no tavern or
restaurant be allowed.
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August 22, 1973
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PHOENIX PROPERTY
Commissioner Shields reported on the Monday night Village Board Meeting.
The attorney for the Pheonix property indicated that they would not negotiate
at all . It will be continued to September 4th. Mr. Osman did not report on
the Lieberman proposal .
THE CROSSINGS (Otis Assoc. )
Those representing this project were:
Mr. Andrew McPherson, Ottis Associates Engineer
Mr. Phil Sheridan, Richards Group, Director of Sales
Mr. James Otis
Also present: Mr. Stan Crosland - Executive Director of the Park District
Mr. Bill Kiddie - Park District Board Member
Mr. Otis stated that the development now consists of 42 units instead of 40
units. If the Village demands only 40 units, they will exchange 2 cluster
units for 2 townhouses. Lot line for Phase II is at the original section line
of the plan. Bike path will circulate through the entire development. The
same basic plans are still being used. The access for emergency vehicles is
improved. There are two areas which are dead-end. The only change is that the
lake in the center is a little larger than originally planned. Mr. Otis feels
that this plan is a great improvement.
Commissioner Mendenhall asked about the bike path on the north. Mr. Otis
indicated that the bike path comes within 35 feet from housing.
Mr. Crosland stated that at this point in time the concern of the Park District
is that the width and length of the lake be suitable for boating, etc. It was
stated that they would seek out members of the Village of Long Grove to annex
that area of Long Grove,which is presently a treatment area.
Mr. Otis indicated that the next time they meet with the Plan Commission that
they would bring the original plan in order to compare the changes. Commissioner
Van Engen asked if this plan met with the marketing requirements. Mr. Phil
Sheridan indicated that it did.
Commissioner Shields asked if they would build cluster homes in the Crossings.
Mr. Otis indicated that they would.
Commissoner Haarr asked about the size of the parking lot for the Park District.
Mr. Otis stated that it would be large enough for twenty cars.
The main purpose for the presence of Mr. Otis tonight was for approval of
Phase II. Chairman Genrich asked for a plat of Phase II and after Mr. Seaberg
has the plat it will be recommended to the Village Board. The plan, said
Mr. Otis, should be available in 2 or 3 weeks. He indicated that they would
meet with the Park District before preparing the plan.
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GENERAL BUSINESS
Commissioner Haarr discussed with the other Commissioners the necessary
changes to Article XI zoning ordinance. After the proper changes were made,
it was suggested that the secretary retype Article XI with the necessary changes.
The meeting was adjourned at approximately 12:00 A.M.
Respec fully submitt- . ,
A. Heneghan, 'ing Sect y.
Approved:
Carl Genrich, Chairman