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1976-09-01 - Plan Commission - Minutes WORKSHOP SESSION BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Commercial Zoning Changes September 1, 1976 Chairman Carl Genrich called the meeting to order at 8:35 p.m. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard. Commissioners Present: Chairman Genrich Mr. Keister Mr. Shields Mr. Goidspiel Mr. Jacobs Mr. Kandel Mr. Kuenz Commissioners Absent: Mr. Mendenhall Mr. Harris Also Present: Mr. John Marienthal, Trustee Mr. William Whited, Administrative Assistant Chairman Genrich stated that he would like to approach the commercial zoning changes in a conceptual format and when the concepts are agreed on the rest will come later on. The last paragraph of Mr. Whited's memo regarding cumulative versus exclusive zoning is the basic thing that has to be resolved before the Commission goes ahead with the particulars. Commissioner Jacobs stated that you can be as detailed or as loose as you want to be in putting together a commercial zoning ordinance. The main thing is to determine how achy categories you need, height, layout, etc. In response to a question from the Commission, Mr. Whited stated that the B-4 uses should be the uses that have a little more noise than normal (auto uses such as car dealerships, body shops, etc.). At present the Village only has one or two B-4 areas and one was recently converted to B-i for the Brosio shopping center. Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Whited if ih the last paragraph of the memo he was saying we should make the zoning exclusive and not cumulative. Mr. Whited stated that this is what he was saying. Commissioner Goidspiel stated that he thinks the Plan Commission should make a three-way comparison on evaluating the proposals made by Mr. Whited. The following should be looked at: 1. The Proposals 2. The Present Zoning 3. The Cook County Ordinance Plan Commission Page 2 September 1, 1976 Chairman Genrich stated that the Plan Commission tried a year ago to get a committee to do this. He feels the Plan Commission has passed the point where they are going to be able to sit down and plan everything out on its own. Mr. Whited is capable of doing this and we have to rely on his input and decision. Commissioner Goldspiel stated that in terms of concept and summary the differences between the Cook County Ordinance, the present zoning ordinance and the proposals should be pointed out. Commissioner Keister stated that before we can adopt anything we have to make some comparisons which he is not prepared to make with what the Plan Commission has in hand. He agrees that because there is someone on the Staff qualified to do this, the Plan Commission should let him to it. After further discussion it was agreed that Mr. Whited would make a report comparing the proposals with the present commercial code and the Cook County Ordinance. The Plan Commission discussed Mr. Whited's proposal of a central business district which would be zoned B-5. Mr. Whited stated that in a B-5 there would be the control to help the property owner have a unified approach. There are certain things that would be allowed in a central business district. There would be more flexibility then you get even with a B-3. Commissioner Keister stated that the only way the Village will get a central business district is to zone a central business district. Chairman Genrich stated that there are three points to consider: 1. There is nothing in the Village's zoning that contains what we are looking for. 2. Mr. Whited's information comes from a state study. 3. The Plan Commission has determined that for whatever reason, the only way we are going to get the Village Center built is to find some way to control it. Mr. Whited stated that the key thing that should be looked at is: 1. Does the Village need B-5 zoning, and 2. If there is B-5, limit it to a specific geographical area. Commissioner Keister asked if a certain theme or type of architecture can be specified in a central business district. Mr. Whited replied that yes, this can be done. Chairman Genrich asked if the Plan Commission was in favor of this type of ordinance. The Commission was polled and was in favor of it 4 to 1. In reply to a question from the Plan Commission, Mr. Whited stated that he wanted to look at the B-0 uses again. In looking at it previously, he did not find it to be too objectionable. • Plan Commission Page 3 September 1, 1976 Commissioner Goldspiel stated that he would like to separate gas stations from Permitted principle Uses under B-2. Mr. Whited stated that this could be put under a special use section. Chairman Genrich asked if the Statement of Intent would go right into the ordinance. Mr. Whited replied that it would. Chairman Genrich asked for the Commission's opinion regarding Mr. Whited's idea of putting site plan approval into each section of the business ordinance. Commissioner Goldspiel stated he didn't see how the Village had any authority to do this. He 'liked if this can be legally done. Mr. Whited stated that it can be done if there are clear and lucid standards and they make sense. There are specific kinds of things that go into site plans that are cut and dried. The only areas where they are on shakey ground is esthetics. Four of the commissioners were in favor of putting site plan approval into each section of the ordinance. Chairman Genrich stated he would like to have a Public Hearing on two or three changes and then pick this up again in a couple of months and do more. The meeting adjourned at 10 p.m. Respectfully submitted, _ da sonhart Recording Secretary i I REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION September 1, 1976 Chairman Carl Genrich called the meeting to order at 8:20 p.m. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard. Commissioners Present: Chairman Genrich Mr. Keister Mr. Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Jacobs Mr. Kandel Mr. Kuenz Commissioners Absent: Mr. Mendenhall Mr. Harris Also Present: Mr. John Marienthal, Village Trustee Mr. William Whited, Administrative Assistant Approval of Minutes Commissioner Shields moved to approve the minutes of August 4, 1976. Commissioner Kandel seconded the motion. The motion carried that the minutes be approved. There were no changes or corrections. Bike Paths Commissioner Kuenz stated that he noticed after reading the minutes of August 25 that there are diverse opinions regarding the bike paths. He feels the question of width is an easy one to resolve. The Village should just state how wide the bike paths are required to be and stick to it. He added that he will get in touch with those commissioners who had the most to say in this regard and will try to get the bike path committee together again. Commissioner Jacobs asked if there is a real need for bike paths. Chairman Genrich stated that the Village won't know until it is tried, if it is a workable or desirable thing to have. Future Agenda Mr. Whited stated that he met with Mr. Rapp regarding the Zale Development' and will have a report on it when it is on the agenda again. . Plan Commission Page 2 September 1, 1976 Adjournment, Commissioner Kuenz made a motion to adjourn and Commissioner Keister seconded the motion. The meeting adjourned into a Workshop Session at 8:35 p•m• Respectfully submitted, . 1.0Z2-tr)-)0.2.L Linda Isonhart Recording Secretary APPROVED: er}d Carl Genrich Plan Commission Chairman