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1976-03-03 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Surety Homes/Didier Farm & Poppin Fresh Pies March 3, 1976 Chairman Carl Genrich called the meeting to order at 8:15 p.m. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard. Commissioners Present : Chairman Genrich Mr. Keister Mr. Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Jacobs Mr. Kandel Commissioners Absent : Mr. Harris Mr. Mendenhall Also Present : Mr. Richard Kaufman, Surety Homes Mr. Mike Ives, Surety Homes Mr. Richard Piggott, Consulting Engineer Mr. William Hitzeman, Superintendent, District 96 Mr. Herbert Mueller, Property Owner Mr. James Herbst , Poppin Fresh Pies Mr. Richard Lapham, Park District Board Mr. John Marienthal, Trustee Mr. Robert Bogart , Trustee Mr. Arnold Seaberg, Village Engineer Mr. William Whited, Administrative Assistant Chair.mon Genrich stated that Levitt was on the agenda for a Public Hearing tonight but they have withdrawn their petition for rezoning the Wagner parcel. He read a letter from Mr. Sleek to Mr. Fabish stating that they were withdrawing their petition because of economics. Approval of Minutes Commissioner Keister made a motion to approve the minutes of the Public Hearing of February 18, 1976. Commissioner Kandel seconded the motion. The motion carried that the minutes be approved. There were no changes or corrections. Commissioner Keister made a motion to approve the minutes of the Regular Meeting of February 18, 1976. Commissioner Shields seconded the motion. The motion carried that the minutes be approved subject to the following change: On page 3, paragraph 1, delete the first sentence and change the second sentence to read, "Mr. Lapham stated that they want 4.5 acres of land that is suitable for active recreational use." T Plan Commission Page 2 March 3, 1976 Levitt/Wagner Farm Mr. Hitzeman, Superintendent of School District 96, expressed his concern relative to Levitt not requesting rezoning. He asked if Levitt were to sell the property would the buyer have to donate the 11 acres Levitt originally intended to donate? Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Whited to get a letter from Mr. Raysa regarding this. Surety Homes/Didier Farm Mr. Richard Kaufman,Surety Homes, distributed copies of a new preliminary plan (Exhibit 222-5) showing the changes based on the agreement reached with the Park District Board. He stated that there is a change in configuration of the recreation area in the southeast portion. This change results in a net acreage of 4.2 exclusive of the detention basins. In addition, they have taken out two lots in the northwest corner of the property for a tot lot. Exclusive of the detention area, the total area between the two pieces of land is 5.23 acres. Mr. Kaufman stated that they had been scheduled to meet with the School Board prior to their knowledge of Levitt withdrawing their rezoning petition. It was generally agreed that this meeting was based on Levitt's donation of the school property. They felt there was no point in meeting with the School Board until they knew what would happen regarding this donation. They will be meeting with the School Board on Monday night. Commissioner Jacobs stated that there is nothing preventing the Village at this time from making a demand on Levitt to convey the school acreage to the school district now. Chairman Genrich stated that this would have to be pursued by the school district and not the Village. Mr. Marienthal stated that he felt they could obtain the land at this point because it is tied in with the Koelper-Demuth parcel. Chairman Genrich stated that a letter was received from Mr. Settanni stating that the Park Board gave conceptual approval to this preliminary plan. A letter was attached to this conveying the terms of the presentation. Mr. Richard Piggott, consulting engineer, presented the engineering plans for the site. He stated that they plan to auger under Rt. 83 and tie in with the existing water main at Checker Drive. They will also tie into the existing Lake County sanitary sewer. The upper area will drain by gravity to the manhole on Chaucer Way. The main branch of the storm sewer will run along this street. A detention pond in the southeast corner will handle the bottom portion of the project. This will be designed for Village requirements. The grades on the lots in the lower part of the project had to be raised to get the sanitary sewer to Chaucer Way. The detention in the northeast part of the project will not be settled until the question of the school site is settled. \.1 Plan Commission Page 3 March 3, 1976 that sewagelift station Mr. Seaberg stateda s ag s a lon would be required to pump sewage from the north part of the property to the south. Because of elevations it would be impossible to install a gravity sewer to transfer the sewage. Aside from this and solving the drainage problem in the northeast corner, there are no complications in the engineering aspects of the plan. Mr. Piggott stated that there is a 5 to 1 slope in the detention area along the homes and 3 to 1 on the other side. The system is laid out so water does not run across the pond in any mass, In response to a question from Mr. Goldspiel, Mr. Piggott stated that during one-year storms the water will not back up. It will run through the storm sewer. During 25 or 50-year storms, water will drain through at a controlled release and extra water will back up into the system and gradually fill the pond. The high-water line is 692. Once it gets that high it will overflow the top of the berm and drain overland. The detention areas will be dry 90% of the time. Commissioner Keister stated that they had shown sidewalks throughout except on the south end along Busch Road. He asked if they planned to put some in that area. Mr. Ives replied that it is not required by the county and they will not be putting them in. They met with the county about 14 months ago. Commissioner Keister questioned the 20' wide access to the park in the southeast corner. Mr. Ives stated that he, personally, did not see the need of the access but the Park District wanted it. Mr. Lapham stated that they did not want the access to be through the residents' yards. Commissioner Keister asked if they will provide an access to the park for the proposed Phoenix development on the west. Mr. Ives stated that they gave up a lot to provide access into Camelot from Phoenix on Banbury Lane. If they want to get to the park they can come in on Banbury, down Chaucer Way and cut across Brandywyn Lane to the park. Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Hitzeman if he was correct in assuming that because the location of the school on the Wagner parcel does not present a problem in terms of access, the school district will be receiving money from Surety and that will essentially fulfill the requirements that they have to the school district. Mr. Hitzeman stated that that problem has not been resolved, They hope to resolve it Monday night at the Board meeting. It should be resolved before the Public Hearing on March 17. Mr. Kaufman stated that the school board asked them to donate property in the northeast corner in lieu of a portion of the cash donation. Mr. Herbert Mueller, 9500 Overhill, Morton Grove , stated that he has an interest in the property next to the Surety development. He asked if it is the policy of the Village to drop the water from Plan Commission Page 4 March 3, 1976 a retention basin on the property next to it. Mr. Seaberg replied that it is not a policy but is basically the only thing that can be done. Legally, the Village has to make sure that the water goes in the same place it went before. He added that in this case the water draining onto that property will be less then before because the drainage is controlled to an absolute maximum. The water is held back by the retention basin and is discharged at a slow rate. Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Kaufman if he would be willing to have his engineer meet with Mr. Mueller and Mr. Seaberg to answer any questions Mr. Mueller may have. Mr. Kaufman stated that he had no objections to this. Chairman Genrich stated that he had received a report from the Lake County Soil and Water Conservation District. They alluded to the fact that there might be some building problems on the lower 700 feet of this property. He asked Mr. Piggott if there are any construction problems relative to the soil. Mr. Piggott stated that he has not seen the report but there should not be any problem with building single-family homes. Mr. Whited stated that there are no problems in terms of zoning. Poppin Fresh Pies Commissioner Kandel made a motion that the Plan Commission give its approval of a minor change in building location. It is consistent with the subdivision ordinance and our approved plan. Commissioner Keister seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. This building location is shown on their landscaped development plan marked Exhibit 1015-14. Chairman Genrich stated that Poppin Fresh will be back on March 17 for final approval of a plat of resubdivision. Board of Zoning Appeals Chairman Genrich stated that the Board of Zoning Appeals had several things that were pending and the Plan Commission is supposed to approve in terms of changes in their powers. He asked Mr. Whited to obtain copies of these items with a summary and these will be mailed out with the agenda. Marquardt/Brosio Chairman Genrich asked Commissioner Kandel to represent the Plan Commission at the Marquardt/Brosio Public Hearing before the Village Board on Monday night , March 8. Adjournment Commissioner Jacobs made a motion to adjourn. Commissioner Keister Plan Commission Page 5 March 3, 1976 seconded the motion. The meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m. Respectfully/ems\ubmitted, 4 c_ „,„,e,r,v4t17 �/ Linda Isonhart RecordingSecretary a Y APPROVED: 6.1i 4.144.4k a. Carl Genrich Plan Commission Chairman