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1976-05-05 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION May 5, 1976 Surety/Camelot, Prudential/White Hen Price Veterinary Clinic, Crossings Chairman Carl Genrich called the meeting to order at 8:15 p.m. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard. Commissioners Present: Chairman Genrich Mr. Mendenhall Mr. Harris Mr. Keister Mr. Shields Mr. Kandel Commissioners Absent: Mr. Goldspiel Mr•3aeo95 51/91Y6 Also Present: Mr. Richard Kaufman, Surety Mr. Richard Piggott, Surety Mr. Thomas Conrardy, Prudential Realty Mr. Joe Meyer, Architect Mr. Thomas Boffey, White Hen Pantry Dr. Ronald Price, Veterinary Clinic Mr. James Kuenz, Prospective Member Mr. John Marienthal, Trustee Mr. Arnie Seaberg, Village Engineer Mr. William Whited, Administrative Assistant Chairman Genrich stated that Commissioner Goldspiel had called him and he will not be able to attend the meeting because he Will-be out of town. Approval of Minutes Commissioner Mendenhall made a motion to approved the minutes of April 7. Commissioner Keister seconded the motion. The motion carried that the minutes be approved. There were no changes or corrections. Surety/Camelot After reviewing the Final Plat of Camelot, Commissioner Keister stated that a notation as to the phase should be added so when the second plat comes in for approval it can continue to be called Camelot. Plan Commission Page 2 May 5, 1976 Commissioner Keister made a motion that the Plan Commission recommend approval of the Final Plat for Camelot of Buffalo Grove, Exhibit 222-13, with the addition of"phase I" to this plat and subsequent to receiving a letter from the Postmaster that the street names are acceptable. Commissioner Kandel seconded the motion. Upon vote the motion carried unanimously. Commissioner Harris asked Mr. Seaberg how the entrance will tie in with the revisions to Busch Road. Mr. Seaberg stated that the county does not have final plans and that is why the entrance shown is only temporary at this point. He added that the plat does conform to regulations. Prudential/White Hen Mr. Conrardy showed an old site plan dated January 11, 1973, with a Jewel Food Store on the site which White Hen has purchased from Jewel. He stated that this plan shows that originally Jewel had intended to build there. Mr. Conrardy stated that he had met with Mr. Meyer and Mr. Meyer's brother, Jim Meyer, and asked them to come up with something different from what was brought in last month. They came up with three different schemes. Scheme A - Building 1 is similar to what was on the previous plan. However, the angle at the back is different. Building 2 is in the center of the parking lot and does not allow for the best layout r in parking. There is 4.0,800 square feet and parking for 240 cars. Behind the building is a service drive. There are two curb cuts shown, one on Route 83 and one on Arlington Heights Road. Scheme B - Building 2 is shown as an "L" shaped building. Building 1 is left as a free-standing building for future financial or possible restaurant use. The White Hen would be facing Arlington Heights Road. There are two service drives coming off the main road. The stores would be broken up into different widths. They can also be recessed in some places. If they could find a tenant needing a 10,000 foot store they would like to put him in the angle. The free-standing building would be Phase II. Scheme C - Building 1 is facing Arlington Heights Road. They have made the building 22,800 square feet which possibly may be too big. With this plan they have the greatest flexibility with Phase II. There is still the possibility of it being a free-standing restaurant. They only show one entrance to the property besides the service drive entrance. Mr. Conrardy stated that they are not showing a gas station on any of the plans. They are aware of the Plan Commission's objection to a gas station. 1 1 Plan Commission Page 3 May 5, 1976 Commissioner Mendenhall stated that of the three schemes he preferred Scheme A. Commissioner Harris asked how they would treat building one on Scheme B. Mr. Conrardy replied that it would probably be done in brick. There would be a small retaining wall around the trash area. Commissioner Harris asked if it is common to get a large user in a strip center where there is a store on the order of White Hen. Mr. Conrardy replied that usually the land size will dictate the type of stores. This area is larger than the usual strip center. Commissioner Harris stated that he prefers Scheme A, also. Commissioner Shields stated that he prefers Scheme A. He added that in this scheme if they move Phase II up into the northwest corner and made it smaller or reshaped it, the parking would be better. Commissioner Kandel suggested that more depth be added to building one on Scheme A and then eliminate building two. He added that a free-standing building does much to detract and would also present maintenance problems. Mr. Conrardy stated that he would concur with this but there comes a point where it is not economically feasible. Commissioner Kandel stated that he prefers Scheme A but building two is bad for the appearance and general maneuverability. Commissioner Mendenhall stated that the White Hen should not be facing Arlington Heights Road because they will have signs for advertising purposes in the windows and no matter what they do to improve the appearance it will look like any other strip center. He stated that if they turn the White Hen to face north the side of the building can be landscaped attractively. Also, the property could be enhanced by berming and landscaping the northwest corner similar to what Plaza Verde did. Mr. Conrardy stated that if the White Hen faced north it would leave about 25 extra feet in depth. He asked if there were any objections to their putting an office or something of that order behind the White Hen. Commissioner Shields asked if they could use this recessed area to allow for extra parking. Mr. Conrardy stated that they would like to keep the building even in the back. Commissioner Shields stated that he did not object to an office there. Commissioner Kandel stated that he would like to see building two become part of building one. Commissioner Keister stated that he felt it was ridiculous to take a prime piece of property and try to design a strip shopping center around a White Hen Pantry because White Hen owns the property and White Hen is part of Jewel. He would rather see Jewel sell the 1 _ Plan Commission Page 4 May 5, 1976 property to someone who can come up with a better use. He added that this property would be the focal point for anyone coming into Buffalo Grove from the northwest. Mr. Conrardy stated that White Hen had nothing to do with these plans. They are a minimal part of this. The problem is the shape and depth of the property. Mr. Boffey stated that Jewel would never sell the property to another food store. It is too small to put a supermarket on. He added that there will be a large Jewel store within i mile of this property within the next few years. Chairman Genrich stated that he felt the Plan Commission is very much opposed to the White Hen facing Arlington Heights Road. If the White Hen has to face Arlington Heights Road there may be problems with the Plan Commission approving it with that arrangement. Commissioner Harris stated that he feels there is a definite need in that area for some convenience type of shopping. Commissioner Shields asked if the White Hen would be built first. Mr. Conrardy stated that they would go with 3- of building one to begin with and the White Hen would be included in this. Mr. Conrardy and Mr. Meyer stated that they would have pencil sketches but not complete renderings for the workshop meeting on Wednesday, June 2. The Public Hearing was scheduled for June 16. Price Veterinary Clinic Dr. Price stated that the proposed site is on the southwest corner of Buffalo Grove Road and Route 83. He intends to remodel the old gas station that is presently on the site. It is part of 5 acres which are zoned B-3. However, this parcel is not under the same ownership as the rest. Mr. Whited stated that he thinks this would be a good site for a veterinary hospital. It would serve the Lake County portion of the Village. This is a much better uSe then the owner originally intended. He added that the property is mis-zoned. Commissioner Shields asked if the utilities and everything are adequate. Dr. Price replied that they will have to go 130' along Route 83 to get sewer. Commissioner Keister asked what the dimension of the frontage is. Dr. Price replied that it is about 260' . It was the general agreement of the Commission that this is a good use for the property. A Public Hearing will be scheduled for June 2. Chairman Genrich asked Dr. Price to have an architectural rendering at that point. Plan Commission Page 5 May 5, 1976 Road Construction Plans Mr. Seaberg stated that Lake Cook Road is presently under construction from Milwaukee Avenue to Route 83. So far they are putting in storm sewers and underground utilities. This may take two years to finish because they have to put an overpass on the Soo Line. He stated that he doesn't know anything yet about the section between Route 83 and Arlington Heights Road other then the plan for alignment and basic details for the alignment. It is possible that the project `./ through the Village proper would be about one year behind the project between Milwaukee Avenue and Route 83. Commissioner Harris asked if there are plans for a pedestrian overpass or underpass across Lake Cook Road. Mr. Seaberg stated that he didn't think so. There will be signalized intersections and through the Village there will be the same type of median as Dundee Road. Mr. Seaberg stated that the intersection of Route 83 and Busch Road could be a separate project which will be speeded up due to the construction of Surety. Other road construction may be speeded up also due to further developments. Mr. Seaberg stated that he would send the commissioners copies of the current zoning map with the road construction projects drawn in. Mr. Seaberg added that the only other major improvement is Arlington Heights Road in Arlington Heights. Along with that Cook County has said they would improve Arlington Heights Road to Lake Cook Road. The Village is making application for Arlington Heights Road from Lake Cook Road to Route 83. Crossings Mr. Seaberg stated that there is a section of roadway along the Otis commercial section that the Village has asked them to give us a 50'dedication on. He asked for the Commission's approval on this dedication plat. Commissioner Keister moved that the Plan Commission recommend approval of the dedication plat for a 50' strip along Arlington Heights Road where the Otis commercial is to be. Commissioner Kandel seconded the motion and upon vote it carried unanimously. The Chairman and Secretary signed the plat. Commissioner Kandel and Commissioner Keister reviewed and approved for signature the Final Plat of the Crossings, Center Addition, Block 3. Enforcing of Ordinances Chairman Genrich indicated to the Commission that he was aware of a violation of the zoning ordinance in the Village but did not want to discuss the particular case. He wanted to know how the Commission felt in general about enforcing the zoning codes. After general discussion they agreed that the ordinances should be enforced. Plan Commission Page 6 May 5, 1976 Correspondence Chairman Genrich reported that he received a letter from Mr. Kiddie of the Park Board. The letter was discussed and no action was taken. The letter was a response to the Plan Commission's motion concerning the Park District referendum. Plan Commission Appointment Chairman Genrich stated that Mr. James Kuenz, 907 Greenridge, has attended several meetings as a prospective member. Commissioner Mendenhall made a motion that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board the appointment of Mr. Kuenz to the Plan Commission for a one-year term. Commissioner Keister seconded the motion. Upon vote the motion carried unanimously. Ad&ournment Commissioner Shields made a motion to adjourn. Commissioner Keister seconded the motion. The meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Linda Isonhart APPROVED: Recording Secretary. Carl Genrich, Chairman 1