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1977-01-12 - Plan Commission - Minutes WORKSHOP MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Village Center January 12, 1977 Chairman Genrich called the meeting to order at 8:10 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard. Commissioners Present: Chairman Genrich Mr. Mendenhall Mr. Harris Mr. Keister Mr. Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Kandel Mrs. Force I Commissioners Absent: Mr. Jacobs Also Present: Mr. Albert Knuth, Property Owner Mr. Sal Santoro, Property Owner Mr. Bart Delaney, Engineering Aide Mr. Chuck McCoy, Director of Public Works Mr. John Marienthal, Trustee Mr. Carl Rapp, Director of Community Development Village Center Chairman Genrich stated that the Village made an application to the Federal Government for a public works grant which would assist and move the Village Center along if it were to materialize. The grant was turned down by the Ford Administration. Chairman Genrich asked Mr. McCoy to describe the Public Works plan for the Village Center. Mr. McCoy stated that at the time the Village was applying for the grant they were under contract to design a well for the Village and the company designing it agreed to do the necessary preliminary work for water and sewer for the Village Center. Mr. McCoy distributed copies of a plan showing the routing of the sewer and water and stated that a loop system had been designed. Referring to the Capital Improvement Program, Mr. McCoy stated that $240,000 had been set aside for the water system for the Village Center in the year 1977-1978 and $290,000 had been set aside for sewer. Since the grant was turned down, this money will not be spent. Commissioner Kandel asked what had to be done to meet the request for funds. Mr. McCoy replied that the preliminary engineering is done, the facts and figures are together and the forms filled out. Everything is ready if the new administration decides to make funds available again. Page 2 Plan Commission January 12, 1977 Commissioner Keister questioned the difference between the figures given for sewer and water by the Village Center planners and the figures given by Mr. McCoy. Mr. McCoy stated that the sewer and water mains that will service the Village Center in the figures given by the planners will not service outside of the Center. With the plan presented by him, the areas adjacent to the Village Center will be serviced also. Commissioner Harris asked why the piece of sewer line in the northern part of Route 83 paralleled the Lake County interceptor. Mr. McCoy replied that this is a preliminary plan. When the final one is made this may be changed. Commissioner Goldspiel suggested that the plan be reconsidered now since this is a less then ideal plan and there is more time before reapplying for the grant. Mr. McCoy stated that this is just to get concepts and the Village shouldn' t spend the money for final engineering drawings for something that is five years or more off. Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Knuth, one of the property owners, for his opinion regarding the proposed commercial zoning ordinance. Mr. Knuth felt that it is more limited, especially in terms of parking. Regarding bringing in the loop system for the utilities, he thinks this would be good. For the property owners to bring utilities to their property would be too expensive and he thinks it would also be too much for a developer. Mr. Sal Santoro stated that he represents one of the property owners and suggested the Village find a way to extend the utilities and then recapture the cost by charging the owners so much per acre. He added that he also found the proposed zoning more restrictive then what already exists. Chairman Genrich asked if the Commission should review the proposed ordinance section by section or if a committee should be appointed to go through it. It was decided that the Plan Commission should go through it. Commissioner Mendenhall questioned the exclusion of drive-in facilities for banks under 7.2.1. Commissioner Keister stated that he felt drive-ins should be left in also. Commissioner Harris suggested taking it out of Special Uses. This will be reviewed by a- committee which will be set up to review the B-5 section of the ordinance. Under the same section, Commissioner Mendenhall asked if the exclusion of drive-in and carry-out restaurants should be left in. There was a discussion regarding the definition of carry-out. Chairman Genrich asked Mr. Delaney to check on the definition of carry-out. It was agreed by the Commission that the definitions for both drive-in and carry-out should be in the front of the ordinance. Under 7.3, Special Uses, Commissioner Mendenhall suggested going to a PUD instead of R-9. He felt this would allow more flexibility. Commissioner Kandel stated that it should be made as attractive to a developer as possible. Commissioner Goldspiel disagreed stating that bonuses should be given through a particular ordinance that could be applied. A PUD is like waving a "blank slate". Chairman Genrich suggested that this matter should go to the committee for consideration. Page 3 Plan Commission January 12, 1977 Commissioner Goldspiel stated that the use of the word "nuisance" under 7.4, number 2, is wrong. There should be a definition more limiting. Commissioner Keister stated that he did not think that paragraph is required in a business district. This, also, will go to the committee for consideration. Commissioner Harris stated he didn't think gas stations should be permitted in the central business district. After discussion it was decided to insert the following wording regarding service stations under 7.3, number 3, "The building must be placed within 175' of the outer boundaries of the property known as the central business district." There was a discussion regarding commercial lot sizes as mentioned under 7.5.1.2. It was decided that this would go to the committee for review and consideration. Commissioner Harris wondered about the significance of floor area ratio as given under 7.5.1.3. This was assigned to the committee. Commissioner Keister questioned the meaning of 7.4, number 3, regarding lighting. He read the definition of lighting as written on page 95 of the Zoning Ordinance under B-3. There was discussion regarding the possibility of substituting this for what is written in the proposed ordinance. The committee will review this. Commissioner Goldspiel questioned 7.7, Site Plan Review. Commissioner Harris stated that he would like to see this go under Central Business District Planned Unit Development Procedure and do away with 7.7. The first paragraph could be reworded. This will go to the committee, also. Chairman Genrich asked Commissioner Kandel to chair the B-5 Committee for the above. Commissioners Force, Harris and Mendenhall will serve on this committee. Communications Commissioner Mendenhall read a memo written by Trustee Bogart and dated January 6, 1977, recommending a minimum lot -size of 8750 square feet, no variances and not accepting PUD's. The commissioners each gave their opinion regarding these recommendations and asked Commissioner Mendenhall to draft a statement in this regard for the Plan Commission. Adjournment Commissioner Keister moved to adjourn. Commissioner Force seconded the motion. The meeting adjourned at 10:35 P.M. Respectfully submitted, L APPROVED: . 1 LO-1,-)--)1/CUt- Li da Isonhart, Recording Secretary Carl Genrich, Chairman