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1979-06-06 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING - UPTOWN FEDERAL SAVINGS & LOAN BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION JUNE 6, 1979 Vice Chairman Sheldon called the Hearing to order at 8:00 P.M. at the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard. Commissioners Present: Mrs. Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Button Mr. Shifrin Mr. Glover Commissioners Absent: Chairman Shields Mr. Kelly Mr. Davis Mr. Harris Also Present: Mr. Ronald Becker, General Counsel, Uptown Federal Mr. Mitchell Goldman, Architect, Uptown Federal Mr. John Marienthal, Trustee Mr. Bart Delaney, Planning Coordinator Mr. Jim Truesdell, Staff Planner Mr. Becker and Mr. Goldman were sworn in. Mr. Becker stated they are proposing to build a full-service branch of Uptown Federal Savings & Loan on the corner of Arlington Heights Road and Highway 83. The lot contains 31,300 sq. ft., the building will contain 3,950 sq. ft. , the pavement area will be 16,800 sq. ft. and contain 4.6 parking spaces. Commissioner Button stated that some of the parking stalls are 17' instead of the required 19 ' . Mr. Becker said this was an oversight and there would be no problem lengthening them. Mr. Delaney stated that after lengthening, there would still be a 21' driving lane, which is adequate. Commissioner Button stated that at one time there was some discussion regard- ing the 12' buffer to the right-of-way surrounding the property, and what is the status on this? Mr. Becker stated they changed it and are showing 12' . Commissioner Glover asked what material would be used for the 8' bike path. Mr. Becker stated it would be concrete. Commissioner Glover stated that he noticed they are planning an interim facility. Commissioner Goldspiel stated that in the Engineering comments there was some discussion as to whether the double or single entrance on Route 83 should be required. He said his feeling is that this should be a single entrance because it would be undesirable to take away more green area there and you would be Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing June 6, 1979 -2- running into a bad traffic pattern. He said Engineering agrees a single en- trance would be adequate. Commissioner Goldspiel asked for an explanation of the 30 ' radius. Mr. Delaney stated this is a 30 ' turning radius for trucks. Commissioner Goldspiel asked if that would solve the problem of emergency ve- hicles. Mr. Delaney said the Fire Department's concern was that cars exiting from the center might hinder emergency vehicles. Commissioner Goldspiel stated that the Plan Commission recommendation is for a double drive, but he wondered if that could be solved by making one drive an entrance and the other an exit. There are two entrances on Route 83 within close proximity so why not eliminate two-way traffic on the east side, making it an exiting drive? Mr. Goldman responded that if you enter the center and turn left and find no parking space, you will have to exit to Route 83 and come back in. Commission- er Goldspiel asked to forget the internal one ways and discuss the entrances by themselves. Commissioner Button stated it is confusing now and people are never sure which way they should go on Arlington Heights Road, so let's not repeat the same pro- ; blem on Route 83. Commissioner Sheldon stated that presently there is no sign on the entrances from Arlington Heights Road, and perhaps that would help because the people are not sure whether the barrier is for people turning left and right or for entrance and exit. v trvv- Commissioner Button asked Mr. Becker about the interim facility. Mr. Becker replied that the purpose of this facility is to inform local constituents of the permanent location of Uptown Federal. It would be placed to the front of their building line so that construction traffic is not hindered by activity in front of it. They would grade out the land and put solid rock foundation under it. It would be a full-service self-contained facility and would have drive-in facilities which they would not use. It would set on the premises until they are ready to open their permanent facilty, to let people know they are coming and to solicit business. Commissioner Goldspiel asked if they had considered renting a store in that shopping center for that purpose. Mr. Becker stated that this would cost too much because they would have to install fixtures, wiring, a vault, etc., which is all contained in the interim facility. Commissioner Goldspiel asked if they had found anything in our ordinances which allows this. Mr. Becker stated they had not found anything prohibiting this. Commissioner Button stated he did not like the idea of a temporary facility, and suggested a temporary sign. Mr. Becker stated that this would not allow them to build up a customer base and start serving the people. He added that if the Commission would like to establish a time limit on the construction of the permanent facility, that would be alright. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing June 6, 1979 -3- Judy Graff, a resident, stated that she sees very many trailers being put up by construction firms waiting for their facilities to be built. Commissioner Goldspiel stated that the difference was that a construction trailer is not open to public use. Ms. Graff stated she had looked at house plans in one. Mr. Becker added that they plan to landscape around the temporary facility. Commissioner Goldspiel said that under R3 zoning for homes, there is a pro- vision for temporary structures for not more than one year. Mr. Delaney stated that there is no direct policy that would prohibit the use of a trailer as an interim facility, however, he had checked out the shopping center and there are four (4) available storefronts, and the staff would prefer that Uptown Federal use this instead. Trustee Marienthal added that Home Federal had used this type of facility. Mr. Becker said that assuming they could fully staff and outfit a storefront, it would take them 3-4 months, plus they would not want to get involved with their problems. Trustee Marienthal stated that, speaking as a Village Board member, he would not approve an interim facility. Mr. Becker stated he would not like to discuss this interim facility at this time and would rather submit it later. He agreed to delete the interim fac- ility and go ahead with the plan for the permanent facility. Commissioner Sheldon closed the Public Hearing at 8:35 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Astrid L. Hasley Recording Secretary APPROVED: Patrick Shields, Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing June 6, 1979 --------- - REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Uptown Federal Savings & Loan Bicycle Path Plan Wynnedale JUNE 6, 1979 Vice Chairman Sheldon called the meeting to order at 8:35 P.M. at the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard. Commissioners Present: Mrs. Sheldon Mr. Goldapiel Mr. Button Mr. Shifrin Mr. Glover Commissioners Absent: Chairman Shields Mr. Kelly Mr. Davis Mr. Harris Also Present: Mr. Ronald Becker, General Counsel, Uptown Federal Mr. Mitchell Goldman, Architect, Uptown Federal Mr. John Marienthal, Trustee Mr. Bart Delaney, Planning Coordinator Mr. Jim Truesdell, Staff Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES Commissioner Glover made the motion the minutes of May 9, 1979, be approved with corrections. The motion was seconded by Commissioner Shifrin. Correc- tions are as follows: Page 5, Paragraph 1: Add "Bank of Buffalo Grove" instead of "other bank". Page 6, Paragraph 4: Should be Commissioner Davis. Upon voice vote, the motion was approved with a vote of 4 "yes", 1 "abstain". COMMITTEE REPORTS Commissioner Sheldon stated the sub-committee formed to study the parking ordinance has received input from the Village Board and staff and are ready to schedule another meeting. The Police has assumed the policy of not enforc- ing anything, and with good weather, this has caused some parking problems, so they need to have their recommendation to the Village Board as soon as possible. Li Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting June 6, 1979 -2- UPTOWN FEDERAL SAVINGS & LOAN Commissioner Goldspiel made a motion to recommend approval of the Uptown Federal Savings & Loan Association Preliminary Plan dated 5-1-79, with the deletion of the interim savings and loan facility shown; with the increase of the parking spaces to no less than 19' in depth; and with the plan to show the 8' bike path to be concrete; and where the required 12' buffer meets the existing 10' buffer on the Arlington Heights Road side, there will be a transition taper of 9' . Commissioner Shifrin seconded the motion. Commissioner Harris arrived at 8:50 P.M. Upon voice vote, the motion was approved with the Commissioners voting as follows: Commissioners Goldspiel, Shifrin, Glover and Button - "yes". Commissioner Harris - abstain. BICYCLE PATH PLANNING Mr. Truesdell stated that the staff intends to do some reworking on the bicycle path system. He said he is bringing it before the Plan Commission early because they are trying to get the 8' bike path along the highways from the developers. He said they don't have anything solid with which to require the developer to do this, and although they are going along with it, they would like some leverage to work with. Commissioner Button moved that the Plan Commission direct the staff to prepare a plan for a bike path network within the Village which would have the follow- ing characteristics: 1. It would provide for a bike path system that would parallel the major arter- ial streets of the Village, 2. will address possible connections with bike path networks of adjacent villages, 3. would provide entrances to internal bike path systems where possible, 4. will be in conformance with applicable State and Federal laws in designing, use and signing of the paths, 5. and, that we consider its objective to be to connect schools, parks and other recreational facilities as well as link up to major business and activity centers. Commissioner Glover seconded the motion. Upon voice vote, the motion passed unanimously. WYNNEDALE Mr. Marienthal stated that some residents from Devonshire came before the Village Board with several complaints, and until such time as Mr. Shassion responds to these complaints on that parcel, I would like to see a letter sent to him from Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting June 6, 1979 -3- the Plan Commission and Village Board stating that we will not hear this plan until some corrective action is taken on the Devonshire parcel. He said some of the problems are final grading not being done and Village standards not being met, such as public improvements - streets and drainage are not meeting Village standards. He stated that the response time to specific items mostly of a cosmetic nature is very bad and nothing has been set up to handle these complaints. However, the thing that is most alarming is public improvements. Mr. Marienthal stated he did not want to see three developments going on in the Village and have three sets of indignant residents coming before the Village Board. After discussion on the legalities of whether a Public Hearing should be held, the Hearing was set for June 27, 1979. Mr. Delaney said Mr. Shassion dropped off two lots on Checker Road and moved these units closer to the creek. He said they asked him to show bicycle paths and he did not. He is probably going to lose some lots if we insist on an ease- ment for bicycle paths on the east side. Mr. Delan y tated that a ore er had by n asked to look at the tree line, and he said - W"`e,He is to go out and take an inventory, but we have not received it yet.'1 oy Commissioner Glover stated that he is concerned that the Park District will end up with a bunch of dead trees and the expense of removing them. He said he thinks we would be better off to have him take out these trees and put in new landscaping because not many of these trees look like they are worth anything. Commissioner Button said he felt the setting of the Public Hearing should be contingent upon receiving the requested information. Commissioner Sheldon asked that we direct the staff that a Forester be present at the Public Hearing scheduled June 27. ATTENDANCE Commissioner Sheldon stated that a policy has been adopted regarding attendance of Plan Commission meetings. If you cannot attend, you will notify Mr. Delaney so he can determine if there will be a quorum. Commissioner Sheldon stated that, in the packets the Commissioners received, there is the attendance schedule for the Village Board meetings. She said if you cannot attend, you are to make your own arrangements to make sure there is someone there representing the Plan Commission. MASTER PLAN Mr. Delaney explained that the books the Commissioners received are regarding Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting June 6, 1979 -4- the Comprehensive Plan. Periodically they will be sending out information to be inserted in this book. He said that next week the Commission will be going over the procedure for goals and policies. He pointed out that inside the book is a time schedule. Commissioner Goldspiel stated he felt the time schedule is grossly unreasonable. Commissioner Sheldon asked Mr. Marienthal for an explanation of the new procedure for when a developer comes before the Village. Mr. Marienthal said that before, there would be a meeting between the Village President and Village Manager and any other of the staff it was felt should be in attendance. We now have a Community Development Committee for this purpose with regards to the Town Center. This does not affect the Plan Commission but any Commissioner is welcome to sit in on these meetings. Mr. Truesdell stated Lake County is revising their Master Plan. Their present plan has been unworkable because they label everything which was not developed, as open space and agricultural. They have listed three ways to approach this review of the plan and are asking that the communities respond by June 15 with their recommendation of which approach they would like to see used. Commissioner Goldspiel stated that he thinks it is not looking at the facts to not look at the public transportation issue. He said it is a no growth plan. He stated that regarding the energy issue, it might slow down development be- cause without public transportation, people may not be willing to drive this far. He said they have been ignoring the growth of industry in Lake County and to do a Master Plan without recognizing that growth makes the whole point useless. Commissioner Glover made the motion that we recommend to Lake County, the de- velopment of Alternate C of the Lake County Master Plan revision of 5-19-79. Commissioner Goldspiel seconded the motion. The motion was unanimously approved by voice vote. ADJOURNMENT Commissioner Button made the motion the meeting be adjourned at 9:55 P.M. Commissioner Goldspiel seconded the motion, which unanimously passed. Respectfully submitted, �Astrid L. Hasley Recording Secretary APPROVED: Patrick Shields, Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting June 6, 1979