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1979-06-13 - Plan Commission - Minutes WORKSHOP MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION JUNE 13, 1979 Chairman Shields called the meeting to order at 7:40 P.M. at the Municipal building, 50 Raupp Boulevard. Commissioners Present: Chairman Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Glover Mr. Shifrin Mrs. Sheldon Mr. Harris Mr. Button Commissioners Absent: Mr. Davis Mr. Kelly Also Present: Mr. Bill Sommer, Assistant Village Manager Mr. John Marienthal, Trustee Mrs. Bobbie O 'Reilly, Trustee Mr. Elliott Hartstein, Trustee, arrived at 8:40 Mr. Bart Delaney, Planning Coordinator Mr. Jim Truesdell, Staff Planner COMPREHENSIVE PLAN Mr. Sommer stated there are three stages we plan to follow in reviewing the Comprehensive Plan; 1. Look at the goals for development to see if they are still consistent with our policies, 2. Land use analysis will be a comprehensive review of all existing land uses, 3. Change in land use if analysis dictates this. Mr. Sommer said he would like to schedule a Public Hearing on July 11 to go over the Plan Commission's goals for the Comprehensive Plan. Since the land analysis will probably take a couple of months, it is important that we keep to a schedule. Commissioner Goldspiel stated he feels this is an unrealistic schedule, and that they would need two months before the Public Hearing; one to know where we are and one to resolve the points that we raise in the first meeting, then another meeting after the Public Hearing and then another meeting for the final recommendation. Mr. Sommer said he felt between now and July 11, at least two meeting can be fit in and one more meeting after the Public Hearing. Mr. Delaney stated the Public Hearing does not lock us into anything. It brings the subject before the public, and there can be workshops after that. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Workshop Meeting June 13, 1979 -2- Commissioner Goldspiel stated that he felt after we get some space in the news- paper - probably after the first Public Hearing - we should have another chance for the public to be heard. Commissioner Shifrin asked Mr. Sommer if we have to confront the problem of the Fiore property. Mr. Sommer stated this Comprehensive Plan review is looking at our Comprehensive Plan as it exists. If the Village Board chooses to entertain an annexation petition for the Fiore property, there will be a separate Comprehensive Plan done for that piece of property. Commissioner Goldspiel stated that the first thing we should do is address the �./ boundaries of our planning area, and if we are going to have little plots here and there, we will be where we are now with a Master Plan that is not a Master Plan. Mr. Sommer replied that we are setting up goals for development of the Village and if a piece of property adjacent to the Village meets these goals and wants to annex into the Village, why wouldn't the Village Board entertain annexation of that property? Commissioner Shifrin asked if the major objective is to promote industrial and commercial use to widen our tax base, and we have this massive property with which to do this, but we really don't have this property, then we have to look at the plan with perspective to what we do have. Commissioner Goldspiel agreed that you need this property on the plan in order to see what mix you are ending up with. Mr. Sommer stated that we are not looking at land use at this particular time. What we are looking at in the goals and objectives is do we want more industry? Chairman Shields stated that we should define what we mean by goals, and that his understanding of goals is that they would be good whether we are 5,000 square miles or 50,000 square miles, and land use is entirely different. Mr. Truesdell stated the goals and policies set the framework on everything that comes after. They sat down and looked at the existing goals we have now and identified any problems we might have. One problem was that the goals didn't say too much and will have to be more specific. He said Mr. Delaney put together a set of resolutions which will give a feel of the positions the Village Board has taken since the original plan was adopted. He stated they also tried to get together a good set of examples from other parts of the coun- try. Following the goals section is the larger section of policies for devel- opment. The purpose of the policies is to outline what steps the Village feels it needs to take in order to reach the goals established in the first section. This is broken down further into Village Government policy which establishes what type of government the Village is working under and the type of leadership the Village is striving to achieve. The second section is Housing Policy which attempts to define what the Village should do to attain the goals of adequate diverse housing. Next is the Commercial policies. The next section is Office and Industrial policies. The bottom of page 5 is the Environmental policies, which details what the Village should do to maximize the areas we have and Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Workshop Meeting June 13, 1979 -3- spell out things we should do in order to protect environmentally sensitive areas. The next section is Parks and Recreation. Page 7 is Transportation policies dealing with how we would like to see traffic move through the Village and also tries to deal with public transportation. Page 8 are the Economic policies which try to establish a good economic base in the Village and make sure the costs incurred can be met. The next section is Community Services and then Public Utility policies. Mr. Delaney stated that these resolutions are ones the Village has adopted between the time of the 1970 plan and today. Commissioner Goldspiel stated he would like to see more of a goal in public transportation. Chairman Shields stated he would like to discuss the Town Center Committee and their plan review authority. Mr. Sommer said they are working with our consultant in improving the B5 Ordinance, and one of the recommendations we have is to use the Business District Development Commission as the plan review agent for the Town Center. When the new B5 Ordinance is completed then the Business District Development Committee will have to come before the Plan Commission for Public Hearings and the whole planning process. Commissioner Goldspiel stated he would like to register an extremely strong protest to the concept of splitting plan review between the Plan Commission and any other commission. We get into trouble when we do this. It under- mines the planning process to split off that power. Chairman Shields stated the Plan Commission would not be shut out because there are two Plan Commission members who are members of this Commission. Mr. Sommer said he felt Commissioner Goldspiel 's concern was addressed in the ordinance that created the Committee. Plan Commissioners have two of the seats on the Committee appointed each year by the Chairman of the Plan Commission. The Committee has taken great care in getting personnel on the Committee who have been involved for many years in the Village planning process. Another safeguard is part of the B5 Ordinance we are proposing will be a general land development plan as an exhibit of the B5 Ordinance so this body will have to act on a general development plan for the site so when this Committee acts on a project, they will have a standard that you set up. Commissioner Sheldon suggested the meeting date for the Business District Development Committee be included in the Plan Commission Agenda. Commissioner Goldspiel said he could see the Village Board tending to ignore the Plan Commission. Chairman Shields stated that Mrs. Clayton had written him a letter addressing this point because several Plan Commission members had spoken to her concern- ing their feeling that the Committee would take over the job of the Plan Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Workshop Meeting June 13, 1979 -4- Commission. She said that is not the intention of the Committee. They review planning concepts on a pre-application basis and monitors activity on projects but is not to get into planning review. These conferences always took place, only they took place with the Village President, so instead of having one per- son handling it, there will be two people which should be a step up from the old process. Commissioner Sheldon stated she did not see how one commission can do everything effectively, but she stressed communication between the commissions to keep everyone informed. Commissioner Button asked if it was mandatory that two Commissioners attend these Committee meetings, and if one member could not make the meeting, could another member fill in. Mr. Sommer said there are two Commission members appointed for a term of one year and they are the voting members. No one can vote for them. Commissioner Goldspiel suggested there be a time limit set on the Committee's effectiveness. Mr. Sommer agreed. Chairman Shields asked for a straw vote on how the Commissioners feel about the separate review process. The vote was as follows: Harris, Button, Sheldon, Shifrin, Glover - Yes Goldspiel - No The vote was 5 "Yes", and 1 "No". Chairman Shields asked for a vote on the inclusion of the sunset clause or limited power of the Business District Development Committee. The vote was 6 "Yes". GENERAL DISCUSSION Chairman Shields asked if there were any other matters to be discussed. Commissioner Sheldon stated that a couple of weeks ago at the Village Board meeting there was a discussion of the Happ Farm. She said she would like to reiterate the policy that was established by the Plan Commission concerning commercial development on Dundee Road. We have permitted a great deal of commercial development and as a result we have created a traffic problem. It has cost the Village a great deal of money to cope with this problem and through the planning process, perhaps we can prevent future problems of this nature. She stated she would like to see the Plan Commission adopt a policy for the development along other roads in the Village, such as Highway 83 and Lake-Cook Road. Commissioner Harris stated that we should consider a review of our policy on Dundee Road because there are two developments coming up, both of which have asked for some commercial along Dundee Road. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Workshop Meeting June 13, 1979 -5- Mr. Sommer stated that when the Plan Commission reviews the goals on the Master Plan, they could set a policy minimizing curb cuts. { Commissioner Shifrin made a motion to adjourn. Commissioner Goldspiel seconded the motion. By voice vote the motion passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 9:00 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Astrid Hasley7 Recording Secretary APPROVED: Patrick Shields, Chairman 1 Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Workshop Meeting June 13, 1979