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1988-07-06 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Rogers Centre for Commerce (Arbor Creek) July 6, 1988 Chairman Sheldon called the public hearing to order at 7:32 P.M. in the �/ Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug - arrived 7:34 Mr. Rhodes Ms. Howard Mr. Braiman Mr. Case Mr. Rubin Mr. Rosenston Commissioners Absent: None Also Present: Ms. J. Rogers, Developer, Rogers Center Mr. J. Schmitz, Developer, Rogers Center Mr. G. Schraw, Architect, Rogers Center Mr. S. Malato, Attorney, Rogers Center Mr. M. Poliak, Landscaper, Rogers Center Mr. M. Kennelly, Real Estate, Rogers Center Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner Chairman Sheldon read the notice of the public hearing as published in the Buffalo Grove Herald and informed the audience of the format the meeting would take. She then swore in Messrs. Schmitz, Schraw, Malato, Poliak, Kennelly and Ms. Rogers. The exhibits were those contained Mr. Pfeil's July 1, 1988 memo to the Plan Commission titled Rogers Centre for Commerce-Arbor Creek Business Center and Petitioner's Exhibits A through H. Ms. Rogers briefly reviewed her development team's qualifications and the history of her company. They have filed their PUD application. They desire to start construction this year with Phase 1 and continue with Phase 2 in 1989. Based on the recommendations from the Buffalo Grove Fire Marshall they have provided an emergency access in the area delineated as Z-2 (30' driveway) . Mr. Malato noted that: 1. Lots 4 through 8 in the Klefstad subdivision will be considered 1 subdivision lot. 2. According to Ordinance 86-70 (provided to the Commission Secretary) a site can come before the Commission without final engineering and compliance with Section 16.2 of the Development Ordinance. Mr. Pfeil noted staff feels the basic engineering approved for Klefstad is present on this plan. Mr. Schmitz briefly reviewed Group Exhibit H, a slide presentation depicting the types of businesses they own, develop and lease. He reviewed the changes to the plan between the first and second workshops. Tenants will be responsible for the dumpsters. They want to keep signage uniform. Mr. Schraw briefly reviewed the architecture of the buildings. They will be constructed of 8" x 8" square brick. The units will be from 2,200 to 5,500 square feet. The total parking is 495 stalls. He went over the changes to the plan as stated in the Preliminary Review Material dated July 6, 1988 submitted in the Commission packet. Mr. Poliak passed out a revised site plan to the Commission dated July 6, 1988 which was reviewed. They have provided a bus stop, additional green space, sidewalk around the building, an additional retention pond that has a spillway off to the south and into the wetlands, picnic tables and benches near the ponds. There will not be a problem in screening for the new emergency driveway. He reviewed their snow removal plan with the aid of Exhibit F. They will keep the sidewalks clean in the winter so that bus riders can use them. They will work with the Fire Department on the emergency access to make sure the fire trucks can turn around. Mr. Kennelly stated their site is compatible with surrounding uses as these are either planned or developed industrial. Rogers Centre will not diminish the property values to the surrounding uses. The uses they plan on for the site are light distribution, warehousing, sales/service and light assembly. These are the type of uses that are located around the site. He further stated that they are bound by Ordinance 86-70 which has already been approved. This plan complies with the Protective Covenants and Zoning Ordinance. Mr. Kuenkler pointed out that the water from this site will ultimately be discharged in Aptakisic Creek. An easement for a portion of the sidewalk near the wetlands will be provided by the developer and looked into by staff. Staff was directed to review the curbing of the parking lot on the southeast corner on the end rows of parking. Commissioner Goldspiel suggested a raised sidewalk between Buildings A and B in the center court. Commissioner Krug stated he had visited the Rogers Industrial Park in Elk Grove Village and was disappointed to see trucks parked in front of Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Public Hearing - July 6, 1988 - Page 2 buildings, trailers stored without their tractor, broken overhead doors and dumpsters scattered around the site. Mr. Raysa noted this developer does not own Parcel Z. He reviewed the Protective Covenants regarding this site. Parcels K, H and I (outlots) are owned by Klefstad until they are transferred to the Association. If the Association does not maintain the outlots, the Village can charge back the cost. The Plan Commission has no authority over signs. Mr. Poliak stated they would not push snow into the Parcels K, H and I around the pond, Parcel Z or the wetlands. The Commission was in agreement with the opening the north building for emergency access. Chairman Sheldon closed the public hearing at 9:45 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Barbara Sheldon Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Public Hearing - July 6, 1988 - Page 3 REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Rogers Centre for Commerce Woodlands at Fiore, B-3 Commercial Development Woodlands at Fiore, Unit #14 July 6, 1988 Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 9:53 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug Mr. Rhodes Ms. Howard Mr. Braiman Mr. Case Mr. Rubin Mr. Rosenston Commissioners Absent: None Also Present: Ms. J. Rogers, Developer, Rogers Center Mr. J. Schmitz, Developer, Rogers Center Mr. G. Schraw, Architect, Rogers Center Mr. S. Malato, Attorney, Rogers Center Mr. M. Poliak, Landscaper, Rogers Center Mr. M. Kennelly, Real Estate, Rogers Center Mr. D. Manhard, Engineer, Woodlands Mr. G. Zale, Developer, Woodlands Mr. G. Jenkins, Planner, Woodlands Mr. D. Martin, Landscaper, Woodlands Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes, to approve the Regular Meeting minutes of June 8, 1988 as amended. Approval was unanimous in favor and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Krug, to approve the Regular Meeting minutes of June 15, 1988 as amended. Approval was unanimous in favor and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Rosenston, to approve the Regular Meeting minutes of June 22, 1988 as amended. Approval was unanimous in favor and the motion passed. COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS On July 7, 1988 the first meeting of a committee formed to encourage commuter rail service on the Soo Line. Commissioner Rhodes attended the June 27, 1988 Village Board meetingwhere two preapplications were heard but not referred to the Commission, the Sims Property and Riverwalk II. ROGERS CENTER FOR COMMERCE Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Krug that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of a PUD and Preliminary Plan in the Industrial District for the Rogers Centre for Commerce as delineated in Petitioner's Exhibits A through H, except Exhibit D, noting that certain walkways are shown on the landscape plan rather than the site plan and subject to: 1. Inclusion of curbing on the east side of rows of parking in the southeast corner parking lot as agreed by the petitioner. 2. Providing raised sidewalks between Buildings A-1 and C; A and B, where striped pavement is now indicated. 3. Consideration by the Village staff of whether the sidewalk indicated as a striped pavement adjacent to the wetland on the south end of the property where it crosses the pavement, should be pulled into the easement. 4. Revision of the landscape plan to screen auto access on the north side of the property. Discussion: The Commission was polled as to whether they favored raised sidewalks or striping as indicated on the plan in A-1 and C; A and B between lots. Yes indicating favoring the striping. AYES: None NAYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Case, Rubin and Rosenston ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: None The pole failed 8 - 0. The vote on the motion was: AYES: Rhodes, Braiman, Rubin, Rosenston, Sheldon NAYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Howard and Case ABSTAIN: None Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Regular Meeting - July 6, 1988 - Page 2 ABSENT: None The motion passed 5 - 4. Commissioner Goldspiel stated this is an important issue. This site will provide real estate and sales taxes to the Village. The plan is substantially improved over the previous plans. His concern was Arbor Creek be compatible to the Corporate Grove. Commissioner Krug feels this development is needed in the Village but this is not the location for it. This is the side entrance to the industrial park and what is planned here will hold for the rest of the industrial development and is not compatible with the Lincolnshire or Corporate Grove developments. Commissioner Howard was pleased that the developer had answered all of the questions raised by the Commission but agreed with Commissioners Goldspiel and Krug. Commissioner Rhodes noted the vote was very close and this should be an indication to the developer to make sure they build a quality development. The Commissioner concurred that Item C on the agenda be heard ahead of Item B. WOODLANDS AT FIORE, UNIT #14 - FINAL PLAT Moved by Commissioner Krug, seconded by Commissioner Rosenston that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of Woodlands at Fiore, Unit #14 Final Plat dated June 21, 1988 consisting of 3 sheets. Discussion: Commissioner Rosenston questioned the cul-de-sacs such as Hackberry Court East and another cul-de-sac abutting this one on the property line. This issue was discussed when Unit #11 was approved and it was noted that the cul-de-sac would not back up to the property line but there would be some green space there also. The Vote: AYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Case and Rubin NAYES: None ABSTAIN: Rosenston ABSENT: None The motion passed 7 - 0 - 1 WOODLANDS AT FIORE, B-3 COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT - WORKSHOP #1 Chairman Sheldon stepped down because of a possible conflict of interest. Vice Chairman Goldspiel took the chair. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Regular Meeting - July 6, 1988 - Page 3 Mr. Jenkins noted they have substantially added to the green space. They comply with all zoning requirements. He reviewed a rear elevation noting there is 50' of green space that will have a 5' berm on the rear with an 8' stockade fence on top of that. They will require a variation for the 8' fence on top of the berm. The materials for the buildings will be brick, stone and plaster. There will be brick pavers in the arcade area with planters. Commissioner Goldspiel noted that when initially planning this site the Master Plan invisioned a smaller neighborhood shopping center. Mr. Zale stated this center has been expanded somewhat to contain more larger stores and will be anchored with a food, drug and hardware store. They will not compete with the Town Center which is a fashion center. This site is something that will be supported by the area around it. They feel they will draw from Lake-Cook Road to the south, the Tristate Tollway to the east, up to Port Clinton to the north and 1} miles east of Route 83. The center will be along the lines of Bannockburn Green. The out parcel will be coming back to the Commission for a separate approval. It was designed with separate parking ratio of 10 cars per 1,000 square feet. The remaining 7 acres adjacent to this site they felt would be planned on a pad by pad basis. They own this piece and could plan it as industrial. There will probably be a higher and better use for it in 3 or 4 years from now. The Commission was concerned that access to Route 22 for the east portion not included in this plan be worked out through the curb cut provided for this shopping center. Commissioner Case recommended the developer consider maintaining a 50' setback along the east boundary. The developer should be aware that a new bus route will run along Buffalo Grove Road to Deerfield Station and possibly the developer could provide a turn around for it. Mr. Manhard stated the water will be collected and directed to the detention basins which will be wet. Staff was directed to inquire as to the status of the municipal site. Items for the next workshop: 1. Traffic consultant report 2. Topography or contour of the land 3. How the street crosses Route 22, the way it lines up 4. Frontage Road depicted on the plan 5. The 50' berm on the east side 6. More information about the outlot 7. Information on traffic in the back of the site 8. Location of the loading docks 9. How the trash will be handled 10. How the trucks would load, unload, gas odor and noise 11. Employee parking on the plan Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Regular Meeting - July 6, 1988 - Page 4 12. Sidewalks added 13. Parking lot layout. Mr. Raysa pointed out the developer should look into the 24 hour business operations ordinance as it relates to residential districts Moved by Commissioner Rubin, seconded by Commissioner Krug that the Commission go into Executive Session to discuss litigation. Chairman Sheldon recessed the meeting to go into Executive Session at 11:50 P.M. and reconvened the Meeting at 12:56 A.M. AYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Case, Rubin and Rosenston NAYES: None ABSENT: None ABSENT: None The motion unanimously carried. ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Case, and unanimously carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at 12:57 A.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Barbara Sheldon Chairman LI Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Regular Meeting - July 6, 1988 - Page 5 EXECUTIVE SESSION BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION July 6, 1988 Chairman Sheldon called the Executive Session to order at 11:50 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug Mr. Rhodes Ms. Howard Mr. Braiman Mr. Case Mr. Rubin Mr. Rosenston Commissioners Absent: None Also Present: Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner The Plan Commission went into Executive Session to discuss threatened litigation on the Golf Course site. ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Case, and unanimously carried to adjourn the Executive Session. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the Executive Session at 12:56 A.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Barbara Sheldon Chairman