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1988-07-20 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Manchester Greens (Golf Course East) July 20, 1988 ( , Chairman Sheldon called the public hearing to order at 7:33 P.M. in the �/ Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug Mr. Rhodes Ms. Howard Mr. Braiman Mr. Case Mr. Rubin Commissioners Absent: Mr. Rosenston Also Present: Mr. G. Meister, Attorney Mr. F. Morelli, Developer Mr. J. Green, Architect Mr. J. Martin, Landscaper Mr. R. Vane, Engineer Mr. G. Gren, 111 Circle Drive, Buffalo Grove Mr. R. Beller, Vintage Resident Mr. D. Err, 1318 Gayle, Buffalo Grove Ms. Bonnie Bright, 110 Circle Drive, Buffalo Grove Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner Chairman Sheldon read the notice of the public hearing as published in the Buffalo Grove Herald and informed the audience of the format the meeting would take. She then swore in Messrs. Meister, Green and Martin. The exhibits were those contained in Mr. Pfeil's July 15, 1988 memo to the Plan Commission titled Manchester Green and Petitioner's Exhibits 1 through 13. Mr. Meister, with the aid of Exhibit 3B reviewed the location, surrounding zoning, uses, history of the site, and the developer's qualifications. He further noted there will be three different associations, 1) for the three story condominium buildings, for all 5 buildings, which will be responsible for the common areas and the exterior of the buildings, 2) a townhome association responsible for their exterior maintenance, and 3) a master association combining all of the units responsible for snow removal, grounds, maintenance and clubhouse and pool. With the aid of Exhibit 11A, 2, 3A and 3B he reviewed the previous plans. In the condominium buildings the drives for the parking will be 24' wide and where there is parking they will be 26' isles with 18.5' stall. The driveways serving the garages will be 20' wide. The clubhouse will be drive approximately 20' wide. The clubhouse will be approximately 2,000 square feet. The bike path is 8' wide running on the west, north of the site and eastern side of the police station site out to Checker Road. The developer will provide the bike path from his site on Checker down to Church Street. ( Mr. Green noted the 20' drive going to the garage flairs out to 25' near the �•/ garage doors. With the aid of Exhibit 12 he reviewed the fencing. There will be a fence along Church, Checker and the police station. In Phase I the clubhouse, pool, condominium Building #5 and townhome Building F along with the private roadway will be constructed. He reviewed, with the aid of Exhibit 13, section 8, the site detention. They feel it is unnecessary and undesirable to develop lights along the bike path. They will provide stop signs where necessary. They are willing to eliminate the gate system if directed. The developer agrees to the bike path on Church. They agreed to the bike path at Condominium #1. The snow will be removed out of all paved surfaces and paved lots. With the aid of Exhibit 4A he reviewed the ground floor plan of the condominium buildings. All refuse would be stored inside the building in the refuse room. He reviewed Exhibits 4B, 4C, 5B, 6A, 6B and 6c and 7. He briefly gave a history of the site. Mr. Vane was sworn in. Mr. Meister stated Mr. Vane's qualifications. Mr. Vane briefly reviewed the engineering of the site. There is a high point on the middle of the site and from that point the water flows to the south, west and north. They will keep the grades where they are. There will pick up the drainage and channel it. Their detention will be provided on the golf course by channeling the flow into a pond. They will not impact on the flood conditions in that area with this detention. Mr. Martin reviewed the landscaping with the aid of Exhibit 10. There will be screening from the Church Street, the parking and the single family. The ornamental fence along the police station will also have a hedge along it and shade trees. Mr. Pfeil noted Mr. Molinaro was agreeable to the fence if it was on the developer's property. The police department stated they did not need a fence on the north of the site. The Village Health officer has indicated that the single family lots at Circle Drive are smaller than current standards for installation of septic sewer systems. The cost of connecting homes at Circle Drive to the Village sewer system was not available. Commissioner Case was concerned with the septic system and the residents to the east. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Public Hearing - July 20, 1988 - Page 2 Commissioner Krug pointed out that the fence along the police station would be a double fence as both sites will be providing a fence. Commissioner Goldspiel was troubled by the fence issue. He felt the exit gates on the private street should be removed. Mr. Morelli stated the scavenger service will have a key, enter the building, empty the trash and replace the dumpster inside the building. Build out of the project should be in 3 years. The units will run from $200,000 to $250,000. Mr. Green noted the mechanicals will be screened on the roofs of the condominiums. Construction vehicles will be using Church Street. There will be patios or decks in the back of the townhomes. There could be privacy fences by the patios. Mr. G. Gren was concerned with the berm and felt there should be more green space between the site and the single family homes. Mr. R. Beller was concerned with renters in the condominiums. Mr. D. Err was concerned with the septic fields. Ms. Bonnie Bright was concerned with the distance of the townhouses to her house. Chairman Sheldon closed the public hearing at 9:41 P.M. Respectfully submitted, 741.4-71L- Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Barbara Sheldon Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Public Hearing - July 20, 1988 - Page 3 REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Manchester Greens (Golf Course East) Malnati's Pizza (The Buffalo House) July 20, 1988 Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 9:51 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug Mr. Rhodes Ms. Howard Mr. Braiman Mr. Case Mr. Rubin Commissioners Absent: Mr. Rosenston Also Present: Mr. G. Meister, Attorney, Manchester Greens Mr. F. Morelli, Developer, Manchester Greens Mr. J. Green, Architect, Manchester Greens Mr. J. Martin, Landscaper, Manchester Greens Mr. R. Vane, Engineer, Manchester Greens Mr. G. Gren, 111 Circle Drive, Buffalo Grove Mr. R. Beller, Vintage Resident Mr. D. Err, 1318 Gayle, Buffalo Grove Ms. B. Bright, 110 Circle Drive, Buffalo Grove Mr. G. Tabb, Architect, Malanti's Pizza Mr. G. Wiss, Landscaper, Malanti's Pizza Mr. L. Malnati, Developer, Malanti's Pizza Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Rubin, to approve the Public Hearing minutes of July 6, 1988 as amended. Approval was unanimous in favor and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Rubin, seconded by Commissioner Krug, to approve the Regular Meeting minutes of July 6, 1988 as amended. Approval was unanimous in favor and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes, to approve the Executive Session minutes of July 6, 1988 as amended. Approval was unanimous in favor and the motion passed. MANCHESTER GREENS (GOLF COURSE EAST) Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board amendment of the PUD in the R-9 District and approval of the Preliminary Plan as stated in Petitioner's Exhibits 1 through 13 with the following variations, and subject to the conditions as noted below. Development Ordinance Variations 1. 16.30.030.F to allow a sidewalk on one side of a private street instead of both sides. 2. 16.50.040.C.4. to allow the use of Enkamat erosion control matting instead of natural stones on the side slope area of a permanent pond on the Buffalo Grove Golf Course Zoning Ordinance Variations 1. 17.28.050.E.4.b. to allow an east rear yard building setback of 40 feet instead of 54 feet 2. 17.36.030.F.1 to allow a parking aisle width of 24 feet instead of 26 feet. 3. 17.36.030.F.4 to allow a driveway width of 20 feet instead of 24 feet for a two-way driveway 4. 17.40.050.0 to allow a building setback of 20 feet instead of 25 feet from a private street Discussion: The commission was poled on the fence issue. Yes indicates it is to be constructed, no indicates it should be removed. AYES: None NAYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Case and Rubin ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Rosenston The pole was negative 7 - 0. Mr. Morelli agreed to eliminate the fence. The motion was amended with Commissioner Goldspiel and Rhodes concurring to read To removal of the automatic exit gates on the private street. Commissioner Goldspiel felt the petitioner in his testimony had justified the variations Commissioner Rhodes felt this was a well designed project. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Regular Meeting - July 20, 1988 - Page 2 Commissioner Krug felt this was not a good zoning for the site but was for the plan. AYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Rhodes, Braiman, Case, Howard and Rubin NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Rosenston The motion passed 7 - 0. MALANTI'S PIZZA (THE BUFFALO HOUSE) Mr. Tabb stated they will be making a small addition to the Buffalo House. The exiting square footage of the building is 3,747 and the addition would be 1430 square feet. They are adding one-third to the building and doubling the parking. They will not be a carry out window. There will be 101 parking stalls. They will be able to seat 198 people which includes all the seats in the bar. Mr. Kuenkler stated the patio was constructed properly, it is not in violation and had a permit. Mr. Malnati stated they are putting on the addition to provide a waiting area for tables, to increase the seating space for the restaurant and add a pick up store. There are 160 seats and they will have 198. They are increasing seating by approximately 25 percent. Mr. Kuenkler stated the flood plain ordinance requires the lowest part of the parking area to be filled 12" above the flood plain. The developer does not want to do this. The result of that is that at certain times portions of the parking lot will not be useable. The building has never flooded to his knowledge. Mr. Tabb noted when they calculated the hard surface area, they found they are not adding to it. They are adding a small green space around the side and front. Mr. Wiss stated that they have a concern that filling in the land to an elevation above the flood plain would create a drainage problem to the adjacent property. They are trying to raise the lot somewhat, approximately 6". They are raising the area on the south end They will be putting in a grassed setback on the south and west, landscaping, and curbing on the parking lot and asphalting the parking lot and putting in the storm sewer. The developer was asked to consider pedestrian access from the Town Center to their building and provide a sidewalk on Buffalo Grove Road. COMMITTEE REPORTS Commissioner Goldspiel attended the July 18, 1988 Village Board meeting at which: Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Regular Meeting - July 20, 1988 - Page 3 1. The Town Center was discussed regarding the height of the condominium buildings increased height was not supported. 2. Canterbury Fields was deferred. 3. Rogers Centre was approved. 4. A Pre-Application conference on the Sims/Schwartz proposal not referred to the Commission. 5. Two Commonwealth Edison sites were referred to the Commission. 6. A restrictive covenant concerning fencing on the Woodlands at Fiore ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Case, seconded by Commissioner Rubin, and unanimously carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at 11:01 P.M. Respectfully submitted, /Z; Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED �BY: `� TGiPCGcel* Barbara Sheldon Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Regular .Meeting - July20, 1988 Page - g 4