1988-08-17 - Plan Commission - Minutes }
REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Golf Course North
Commonwealth Edison Company
Woodstone Townhomes
Churchill Lane
August 17, 1988
Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 7:30 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Howard
Mr. Braiman
Mr. Case
Mr. Rosenston
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Rubin
Mr. Krug
Also Present: Mr. D. Zajicek, Attorney, Golf Course North
Mr. D. Stromberg, Engineer, Golf Course North
Mr. D. Kirk, Developer, Golf Course North
Mr. B. Meltzer, Attorney, Golf Course North
Mr. T. Dyke, Planner Golf Course North
Mr. W. Darling, Superintendent, Commonwealth Edison
Mr. F. Jaskowiak, Engineer Commonwealth Edison
Mr. R. Donovan, Planner, Commonwealth Edison
Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. W. Skelton, Village Attorney
Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee
Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes to go to
Executive Session for the purpose of litigation; the motion passed with the
following vote:
AYES: Commissioners Goldspiel, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Case and Rosenston
NAYES: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner- Howard, to approve the
Public Hearing minutes of July 20, 1988 as amended. Approval was unanimous
in favor and the motion passed.
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Howard, to approve the
Regular Meeting minutes of July 20, 1988 as amended. Approval was unanimous
in favor and the motion passed.
COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Case attended the August 15, 1988 Village Board meeting at which
the Canterbury Fields plan was approved and a petition for annexation at
20039 Buffalo Grove Road for Peter and Patricia David's property was referred
to the Plan Commission.
GOLF COURSE NORTH
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Petitioner's Exhibits 1, Illustrative Site Plan dated November 17, 1973,
Exhibit 2, Preliminary Plan dated April 25, 1988 and Exhibit 3, Plan Data
Comparison-Phase One, dated August, 1988 were introduced.
Mr. Zajicek gave a brief overview of the site with the aid of Exhibit 1, on
which the developer has outlined Parcel A consisting of 12.1 acres. As part
of the 1974 Ordinance Mr. Sajicek represented that the developer donated a
municipal site, sold the Village the golf course at a reasonable price and
met certain other contributions. The developer feels that they are in
substantial compliance and not liable for any more donations of any kind.
They feel that they have done everything they can to make the new plan a
mirror image of the approved concept plan. Mr. Szjicek represented that the
Buffalo Grove Ordinance does not specifically state what the Village wants
for substantial compliance or what to look for in determining this.
Mr. Sajicek introduced Mr. Dyke as a consulting planner.
Mr. Dyke stated he overlayed both plans to determine whether the buildings
were in the same location, reviewed both ordinances from other villages and
the Buffalo Grove's Ordinance of 1974 and felt the plan is in substantial
compliance. Mr. Dyke stated in terms of substantial compliance, Exhibit 2
has not changed in use, there is no more coverage of buildings, no increase
in density, relocation of streets, driveways, ingress/egress is the same.
These are the kinds of things he looked at to determine substantial
compliance.
Mr. Zajicek passed out a copy of Exhibit 3. He said Exhibit 1 was a Concept
Plan.
Mr. Dyke briefly reviewed his qualifications. He is aware of the wetland maps
and reviews them in planning properties. The details of the rate of runoff,
flooding other properties around the site and detention is turned over to a
civil engineer.
Mr. Zajicek stated they would provide detention in accordance with the 1974
plan and that they meet the flood plain requirements according to the 1974
Ordinance. Mr. Zajicek stated this issue is not before the Commission this
evening.
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Mr. Dyke did not get into flood plain and detention issues in his review of
the plan. He did look at the heights coverages and setbacks which are the
same as what was approved in 1973. Mr. Dyke stated in his opinion with the
exception of the rear yard setback, there is substantial compliance with the
1974 plan and that regarding the existing PUD requirements the site generally
conforms to the PUD standards.
Mr. Zajicek noted the ordinance states this piece can be developed in phases.
That is why Phase II is not being reviewed this evening. They can come back
with it at a later date. They do not own Phase II.
Mr. Dyke stated the agreement between the developer and the Village gives the
developer the flexibility to come in with part of the 12 acres for the phase
he wishes to develop now, i.e. the 8 acre piece before the Commission.
Chairman Sheldon stated that Phase II could be land locked if not planned now.
Mr. Dyke stated they feel that the 4 acre parcel has access to Checker Road.
The plan for the balance of the 12 acres is not changed. Approval of the 8
acres does not change the plan for the 4 acres. There is an access point a
little west of Springside to the 4 acre parcel shown on the exhibit which is
located 150' from the intersection of Checker and Springside and a second
access 400' from the intersection. The developer is the contract purchaser
of Phase I.
Commissioner Goldspiel noted that since the developer does not own both
pieces or phases, something to be explored is whether this is governed by the
subdivision ordinance.
Mr. Zajicek agreed that if this piece was in substantial compliance, according to
the Plan Commission, then they have to go through a regular plan review. The
ordinance that applies is 74-22A. The 1973 Ordinance cannot apply because of
the current ordinances that do apply.
Commissioner Goldspiel stated the Village has changed their ordinances and
all other developers had to comply and felt this developer had to comply to
the current ordinances. The approved plan is only a concept plan.- The
engineering details and minute measurements were not in effect at its
approval. Final engineering was never done.
Mr. Zajicek stated the 1974 Ordinance deals with width of pavements and they
will be developing Checker as the ordinance requires them to do so. The same
as the property to the east, 37' back to back. They would be widening it.
The right of way is 33' .
Mr. Pfeil stated the current ordinance requires a 35' pavement width and an
80' right of way.
Mr. Zajicek noted the units will be 2 story apartment -looking buildings,
condominium ownership, with 1 bedroom, 1 bath; 2 bedrooms, 2 baths, 2
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bedrooms, 2 baths• from 750 to 1076 square feet. There would be 4 units per
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building with a common entrance and flats. The units would sell from $75,000
to $135,000. The A, B and C model units will not have garages. There would
be no basements in any units. The original plan called for the townhomes to
have 2 car garages and the new plan shows this. The parking ratio is 2:1
both on the old and new plan.
Commissioner Goldspiel encouraged the developer to try and improve on the old
plan rather than build what was approved 14 years ago.
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Mr. Zajicek stated there were no bike paths or bike ways on the plan. They
would be willing to work with the Village to change the plan as long as it
would not hold up substantial compliance. They are willing to talk about the
bike paths.
Mr. Kirk stated he feels that an agreement is an agreement. An agreement was
worked out 14 years ago. Once that agreement was affirmed in good faith,
then the parties in good faith talk about what is needed and voluntarily
improve what is approved.
Mr. Stromberg stated part of the flood plain is in Phase I and part is in
Phase II. Some of the buildings and parking areas are in the flood plain.
He pointed out where the flood plain would be filled in and compensated for
in another area.
Mr. Pfeil stated that for Phase I the developer would comply with the current
development ordinance regarding the flood plain according to the Village
engineer.
Mr. Dyke stated that this plan is in substantial compliance with the 1974
approved plan. He stated the Village really did not have a preliminary plan
in 1975 as is used today. There is enough information on the concept plan of
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Mr. Zajicek noted that the new preliminary plan is the same as the concept
plan of 14 years ago and they feel they have the right to build this plan.
Trustee Reid stated the Village Board referred the preliminary plan to the
Plan Commission for a full plan review.
Mr. Zajicek quoted from Mr. Pfeil's memo of June 14, 1988 to Mr. Szymborski
which stated that Mr. Pfeil stated the developer felt the preliminary plan
was in substantial compliance.
Mr. Pfeil said that it should go to the Plan Commission for a plan review and
determination of substantial compliance.
Chairman Sheldon called a recess at 10:36 P.M. and reconvened the meeting at
11:04 P.M.
Mr. Dyke reviewed the plan data on Exhibit 2 and Exhibit 3. A concept plan
is different to a preliminary plan and normally substantial compliance is
determined by the preliminary plan and final plans are not normally from a
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preliminary plan. He noted the layout is the same as the concept plan. They
have not changed where the eastern most driveway comes out near the new
Willow Stream Park. He feels the sidewalks are in conformance with the old
plan.
Mr. Raysa quoted from Ordinance 74-22A regarding substantial compliance.
He stated the subject development has to compliance with the Village's
current ordinances (Zoning and Development Ordinances of Buffalo Grove)
except as modified by the terms of 74-22A. He believes Mr. Pfeil's July 29,
1988 memo is correct and this plan has to comply with the current Zoning and
Development Ordinances.
The Plan Commission directed the developer and staff to prepare the following
list of items for the next workshop:
Developer:
1. Should address the future development of Phase II
2. Flood plain on Parcel C addressed
3. Ownership of Parcel C, i.e. the Village might have a land locked
undevelopable site
4. Legal status of Parcel C
5. Right-of-way on Checker concerning the requirement for 40' from the
centerline.
6. Building setbacks checked
7. Setbacks from the golf course
8. Identification of the rearyard setbacks
9. Driveways lining up with the development across the street
10. Height of the buildings
11. How this plan integrates with the neighborhood
12. Bike paths on the plan
13. Building distances under the current PUD ordinance
14. Flood plain information
15. Building elevations
16. How the snow removal will be handled •
17. How the parking lots will work, handicap and guest parking
locations
18. Location of dumpsters
19. Berming
20. Landscape plan
21. How utilities will work
Staff:
1. Have Mr. Molinaro review the plan
2. Donation requirements, including school and park
3. Traffic study by Mr. .Carmignani
4. Comments from Village Departments.
Commissioner Rhodes suggested the developer look into the neighborhood and
consider garage parking and upgrading the units. This is on the main street
to the Town Center.
Ili Commissioner Goldspiel suggested that the developer look into moving the
single townhouse near Checker Road with a sidewalk that goes through the
backyard of 2 other buildings and rearrange that sidewalk.
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An unidentified resident expressed his displeasure with the developer not
bringing his plan up to today's market and standards.
COMMONWEALTH EDISON COMPANY
Mr. Darling stated they were requesting the Village annex property south of
Busch and east of Weiland Roads, giving them a building permit for a
transformer distribution center. This will enable them to provide more
services which are needed now and must be in place for next summer. At the
same time, per the request of the Village, they are requesting that the TDC
south of Aptakisic and east of Buffalo Grove Road be considered for
annexation.
Mr. Donovan noted the Busch TDC has been on their agenda as a 5 year plan
item for 6 years. It has been scheduled for 1989 installation. In 1989 that
station would reach a level just about at its allowable rating. This summer
they have experienced a 10% load increase. They have changed their plans to
make this transformer a larger model than planned because of the load growth.
The bike path would run along the 60' right-of-way on this site.
WOODSTONE TOWNHOMES - PLAN OF RESUBDIVISION NO. 'S 16 & 19
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Case that the Plan
Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Plat of
Resubdivision for Woodstone Townhomes #16 subject to addition of a date,
presently dated by Surveyor's Date of June 6, 1988.
Discussion:
Mr. Pfeil noted the plat closes and is in agreement with the preliminary
plan.
AYES: Goldspiel, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Case and Rosenston
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Krug & Rubin
The motion passed 6 - 0.
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Case that the Plan
Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Plat of
Resubdivision for Woodstone Townhomes #19 subject to addition of a date,
presently dated by Surveyor's Date of June 6, 1988.
Discussion:
Mr. Pfeil noted the plat closes and is in agreement with the preliminary
plan.
AYES: Goldspiel, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Case and Rosenston
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Krug & Rubin
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The motion passed 6 - 0.
CHURCHILL LAND - PLAT, UNITS 1 & 2
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that the
Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of final plat for
Churchill Lane, Unit #1 dated July 14, 1988 consisting of 2 sheets.
Discussion:
Mr. Pfeil stated this is the Glauner site, it is in compliance with the
preliminary plan, the outlots are in order as well as the dimensions, the
plan closes, the sizes of the lots conform with the Zoning Ordinance
variation that was granted.
AYES: Goldspiel, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Case and Rosenston
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Krug and Rubin
The motion passed 6 - 0.
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that the
Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of final plat for
Churchill Lane, Unit #2 dated July 14, 1988 consisting of 2 sheets.
Discussion:
Mr. Pfeil stated this is the Glauner site, it is in compliance with the
preliminary plan, the outlots are in order as well as the dimensions, the
plan closes, the sizes of the lots conform with the Zoning Ordinance
variation that was granted.
AYES: Goldspiel, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Case and Rosenston
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Krug and Rubin
The motion passed 6 - 0.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
Chairman Sheldon stated that Commissioner Case had submitted his resignation
from the Plan Commission as he had received a promotion which would
necessitate spending longer hours at his place of employment.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Howard, and
unanimously carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the
meeting at 12:40 A.M.
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Respectfully submitted,
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K thleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
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Barbara Sheldon
Chairman
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EXECUTIVE SESSION
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
August 17, 1988
Chairman Sheldon called the executive session to order at 7:35 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Howard
Mr. Braiman
Mr. Case
Mr. Rosenston
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Krug
Mr. Rubin
Also Present: Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner
Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. W. Skelton, Village Attorney
The Plan Commission went into Executive Session because of litigation that
was threatened on the Golf Course North property at a meeting between Messrs
Raysa, Balling, Ryan, Meltzer and Kirk.
E ADJOURNM NT
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Howard, and
unanimously carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the
meeting at 8:15 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Ka hleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
Barbara Sheldon
Chairman