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1988-10-05 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Woodlands at Fiore Unit #11 October 5, 1988 ` Chairman Sheldon called the public hearing to order at 7:32 P.M. in the v Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug Mr. Rhodes Ms. Howard Mr. Braiman Mr. Rubin Mr. Rosenston Commissioners Absent: None Also Present: Mr. G. Zale, Developer Mr. G. Jenkins, Planner Mr. D. Seaboldt, Real Estate Consultant Ms. S. Archer, Landscaper Mr. D. Manhard, Engineer Mr. P. Shields, Village Trustee Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner Chairman Sheldon read the notice of the public hearing as published in the Buffalo Grove Herald and informed the audience of the format the meeting would take. She then swore in Messrs. Zale, Jenkins, Seaboldt and Archer. The exhibits were those contained in Mr. Pfeil's September 30, 1988 memo to the Plan Commission titled Woodland Commons Shopping Center and Petitioner's Exhibits 1 through 14. Mr. Jenkins briefly reviewed the plan. With the aid of Exhibit 1 through 7 he showed a rendering of the buildings. With the aid of Exhibit 8 he reviewed the site line study and with Exhibit 9 and 10 the rear elevations. He further stated the variations were: 1. The outdoor sales area would be associated with a hardware store only. 2. The variation along the rear of the center for berming. 3. The detention pond side slope is requested because if they conformed there would be less lake area. 4. The 3:1 side slope on the berming is due to the fact they only have a limited space for berming. 5. They do not wish to aerate the pond because they feel it will work without it. 6. The depth of the pond at 7' will work. The depth requirement of 15' will support aquatic life and they do not wish to have this. There will not be stagnation with 7' depth. The developer stated he wanted to put in fountains in the two entrance ponds and use Enkamat. Ms. Archer, with the aid of Exhibit 10 reviewed the landscaping plan. With the use of Exhibit 11 she reviewed the landscaping around the ponds and Exhibit 12 depicted the seating area. Exhibits 13 and 14 depicted the walkways. Mr. Zale stated he did not want a bus stop in the center because it would create a parking problem with bus riders using the center to park their cars all day. He was willing to work with the Transportation Commission on another site. He is willing to guarantee that the outdoor storage materials would not be on the sidewalk nor readily visible from the parking lot. They are willing to install a solid fence across the back of this area. Mr. Jenkins stated the opening for the hardware store area to the parking lot is 15' wide. The outdoor storage area would hold garden equipment and supplies and building equipment and supplies. It would be lighted for sales at night. Mr. Manhard stated the detention shown is for the shopping center. When the industrial comes back it will be with its own detention. Chairman Sheldon closed the public hearing at 8:29 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Barbara Sheldon Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission-Public Hearing-October 5, 1988-Page 2 REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Woodland Commons Sims Property October 5, 1988 Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 8:32 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon Mr. Goldspiel Mr. Krug Mr. Rhodes Ms. Howard Mr. Braiman Mr. Rubin Mr. Rosenston Commissioners Absent: None Also Present: Mr. G. Zale, Developer, Woodland Commons Mr. G. Jenkins, Planner, Woodland Commons Mr. D. Seaboldt, Real Estate Consultant, Woodland Mr. D. Manhard, Engineer, Woodland Commons Ms. S. Archer, Landscaper, Woodland Commons Mr. E. Schwartz, Developer, Sims Property Mr. J. Martin, Planner, Sims Property Mr. L. Freedman, Attorney, Sims Property Mr. P. Shields, Village Trustee Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES None COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS Commissioner Braiman attended the October 4, 1988 Village Board meeting. There were no referrals for the Plan Commission. The two Commonwealth Edison locations were approved. Chairman Sheldon referred to a letter to the Plan Commission regarding the Seigle Home Center from two Buffalo Grove residents of Woodstone stating their displeasure with this development. She directed Mr. Pfeil to reply to these residents. WOODLAND COMMONS Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the amended preliminary plan for Parcel 1 and rezoning from the Industrial District to B-3 District for Parcel 2 with the following variations to the Development Ordinance 1. Section 16.50.040.C.3 to allow a 4:1 side slope on a dry detention basin instead of a 6:1 side slope as required 2. Section 16.50.040.C.4 to allow a 4:1 grass side slope with Enkamat on permanent ponds instead of a 2:1 side slope with natural stones. 3. To allow minimum pond bottom elevation of 7 feet instead of 15 feet below normal water level. 4. To require aeration on the two main ponds. 5. To allow an open sales and temporary display area as shown on the Exhibits. Subject to: 1. Restriction on the products to be sold and displayed in the area to be determined by the Corporate Authorities 2. That the open sales area would be fenced on the rear side by a solid fence 3. That the location of a bus stop serving the center to be developed by discussions between the developer and the Transportation Commission. It is noted that two detention ponds located off site are an integral part of this plan. Commissioner Goldspiel stated he was satisfied by the testimony concerning the ponds and was willing to accept a variation because of the flow situation but only because those ponds are aerated. He cannot support an open storage area adjacent to single family residential backyards. AYES: Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Rubin and Rosenston NAYES: Goldspiel ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: None The motion passed 6 - 1 SIMS PROPERTY Mr. Freedman stated they have a hybrid plan which can work with either the entire site zoned R-2 or two zoning districts of R-3 and R-2. Mr. Martin stated Lake County will only allow one access to the site which will be Brandywyn Road extended off Prairie. They are matching the 60' right-of-way on Brandywyn at the Woodlands and where it turns north and comes across the existing residences, extend it to 80' , and then the street will go out to Prairie. They have made a single entrance cul-de-sac. The 11 lots on the north and 3 lots on the west abut R-4 and the corner of this area contains the detention. The 11 lots are layed out with a minimum 80' lot length and they do not require a variation in the R-3 zoning. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Regular Meeting - October 5, 1988 - Page 2 The 3 acre property that is not part of the development has an access provided for with a stub from the roadway system. They have provided for a stub to the parcel to the south. They have an increase of 2 lots from the last plan. They agree to put in the 8' bike path. Mr. Pfeil stated that if the zoning meets the R-3 Ordinance it is cleaner to just make that area R-3. The Commission was polled on the property as presented with 2 zoning districts with no variations. Yes indicating support of the plan as presented dated September 21, 1988. AYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Rhodes, Howard, Braiman, Rubin and Rosenston NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: None The poll was favorable 7 - 0. FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE October 12, 1988 there is a public hearing on the Lexington site and there is a workshop on Chevy Chase Park PUD. October 19, 1988 there is a public hearing on the Golf Course North and a workshop on Parkchester. October 26, 1988 there is a public hearing on the Seigle Home Center PUD and a workshop on Cherbourg Homes. STAFF REPORT Mr. Raysa briefly reviewed his memo to Mr. Pfeil of September 30, 1988 regarding a protest on the Seigle site. ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Rubin, seconded by Commissioner Howard, and unanimously carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at 9:29 P.M. Respectfully submitted, K thleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Barbara Sheldon Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission - Regular Meeting - October 5, 1988 - Page 3