1988-11-16 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Cherbourg Townhomes PUD Amendment
Dillion Inns
Riverwalk-Preliminary Plan Revision
November 16, 1988
Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 7:30 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Krug
Mr. Braiman - arrived at 8:19 P.M.
Mr. Rubin
Mr. Rosenston
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Howard
Also Present: Mr. T. Hernandez, Developer, Cherbourg
Mr. S. Sheil, Vice President, Dillon Inns
Mr. D. Asher, Developer-The Corporate Grove
Mr. J. Palumbo, Real Estate, Dillon Inns
Mr. J.Johannson, Developer, Dillion Inns
Mr. T. Beechick, Developer, Riverwalk
Mr. D. Olsen, Planner, Riverwalk
Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee
Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Rubin, seconded by Commissioner Rosenston, to approve
the Regular & Public Hearing Meeting minutes of October 5, 1988. Approval
was unanimous in favor and the motion passed.
Moved by Commissioner Rubin, seconded by Commissioner Rosenston, to approve
the Special & Public Hearing Meeting minutes of October 12, 1988. Approval
was unanimous in favor and the motion passed.
Moved by Commissioner Rubin, seconded by Commissioner Rosenston, to approve
the Special & Public Hearing Meeting minutes of October 19, 1988. Approval
was unanimous in favor and the motion passed.
COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS
None
CHERBOURG TOWNHOMES PUD AMENDMENT
Commissioner Goldspiel felt this amendment was not a good idea. The rear
yards on most of the units remain too small and it would have an adverse
impact on the quality of life in the development. He did not like to allow a
rear yard as small as 10' . These decks would be back yard to back yard or
back yard to side yard. The decks could become a maintenance problem.
, Commissioner Rubin concurred and felt you had to consider what would be
v adjacent to the deck. Yard coverage variations should be considered on a
case by case basis.
Chairman Sheldon stated a variation could cause a marketing problem, i.e. a
deck would be built and you could not sell a neighboring unit because of it.
Mr. Hernandez stated the plan that was presented to the Commission this
evening is for the units that back up to each other because the developer felt
this was of concern to the Commission.
Moved by Commissioner Rubin, seconded by Commissioner Rosenston that the Plan
Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the amendment to the
PUD for Cherbourg Townhomes in the R-8 District, with the following
variation: Zoning Ordinance - Section 17.32.020.F to allow accessory
structures (wood decks) to occupy more than 20 percent of the rear yard on
designated lots.
AYES: None
NAYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Rubin and Rosenston
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Rhodes and Howard
The motion failed 4 - 0
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel seconded by Commissioner Rubin that the Plan
Commission recommend to the Village Board that the developer pursue
variations in regard to decks with the Zoning Board of Appeals on a case by
case basis
AYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Rubin and Rosenston
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Rhodes and Howard
The motion passed 4 - 0
DILLON INN
Mr. Johannson stated their site is at the eastern most part of the Corporate
Grove on the south side of Busch Parkway. To the south is unincorporated
Lake County and the east is Milwaukee Avenue. They are asking for rezoning
on the 7 acre piece. They are proposing a 3 and 4 story hotel. There is
substantial property for landscaping. They will tie it in with the fountain.
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The Commission was polled on the concept of a hotel and restaurant on the
site. Yes indicating favor of the concept.
Ayes: Braiman, Krug, Rubin and Rosenston
Nayes: Goldspiel
Abstain: None
Absent: Rhodes and Howard
The poll was favorable 4 - 1.
Commissioners Goldspiel, Rubin and Braiman agree with the concept of a hotel
in this location but do not feel this is the appropriate hotel and would
prefer something with more amenities.
Commissioner Krug was in favor of the concept. He would like to see the site
restricted to this use. He was in favor of the product.
Commissioner Rosenston was in agreement with the use and product.
For the next workshop the following items were request.
1. Rendering of the exterior
2. Landscaping plan,including buffer yeard
3. Input from the Police and Fire departments regarding emergency access
4. Information on the amenities
5. Pedestrian access
6. Parking lot layout
7. Screening for the pool
8. Update on the engineering for the site.
Chairman Sheldon called a break at 9:18 P.M. and reconvened the meeting at
9:30 P.M.
RIVERWALK-PRELIMINARY PLAN REVISION
Mr. Beechick stated they are presenting a change in the approved Riverwalk
plan which is located at Lake Cook and Milwaukee Avenue. Since the original
approval they have made some positive changes. The plan was revised again
after his receipt of Mr. Pfeil's memo and the plan to be reviewed at this
meeting was not distributed to the Commission. They have changed Riverwalk
Drive so that it hugs the river and gives a view of the forest preserve.
They will have a patio extending out onto the detention lake but it will be
smaller than previously planned. The buildings have been flipped to the
other side of the road. The entrances face the northeast rather than the
southwest. This plan conforms to all of the square footage originally
established in the approved P.U.D. The sizing of the parking area has been
changed to gain more efficiency of parking. They have included 120 surface
stalls for Phase 1 in the location of the parking garage of 672 spaces.
There will be an additional 60 spaces north of the first phase which would
become part of the parking facility for Phase II when it is built. Parking
at 1 Pierce Place is less than this plan. They believe that when they are
fully leased that Phase I parking will not be fully used. They are looking
to 3 years from this date for starting construction on Phase II. They have
gained retail space with 50 square feet per floor and in the penthouse area
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with this plan. There would have to be a minor decrease in the second
building in square footage to make up for this. They are building a
connector with the first building. They will have the same square footage as
the originally approved plan but a decrease in the second building.
Commissioner Goldspiel was concerned the second building could be a couple
stories shorter which would solve some of the problems but not be a mirror
image of the first building. He was also concerned with the layout of the
parking lots.
Mr. Beechick stated this plan has been designed and drawn several times at a
cost of one million dollars already spent to get to this point.
Chairman Sheldon suggested the two buildings be mirror images in appearance.
Mr. Beechick noted there will be berming on the southern end. They intend to
follow the parking requirements for this project as approved. There will be
the same number of parking stalls. With the realignment of the road they do
not see a flooding problem. There might be somewhat of a problem on the area
near the top of Phase II. They will follow whatever has been approved
regarding parking. They will comply with the PUD.
Some discussion took place on J.B. Winberie's parking problems and Mr.
Beechick noted that when the hotel in that location is built there will be 30
overflow parking spaces for the restaurant as was approved in those plans.
He also stated that build out for the office buildings at Riverwalk in
question should be between 12 to 14 months depending on the marketing
conditions. The storage in the lake has been increased and the depth drop of
the lake is more of a gradual drop now.
Commissioner Goldspiel suggested that space be left on this site for a bus
stop.
Mr. Pfeil stated there was no need for a public hearing on this project, that
the Village Board only wanted the Commission to review the plan and return it
with their comments.
Moved by Commissioner Krug, seconded by Commissioner Rosenston that the Plan
Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the revised plan for
Riverwalk dated November 16, 1988 subject to:
1. Pedestrian access to public transportation
2. Pedestrian access across the Des Plaines River to the Forest
Preserve district
3. That the parking and total square footage of the phases combined
will not exceed that of the originally approved plan
4. That the mirror image, in concept, of two 12 story buildings remain
as closely as possible to the originally approved plan.
AYES: Krug, Rubin, Braiman and Rosenston
NAYES: Goldspiel
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Rhodes and Howard
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The building is concrete with brick exterior and will have a sprinkling
system. The room rates will be in the
low $50's for a single. They will appeal to the corporate traveler. They
have two other properties in the Chicago area and are working on a site in
Schaumburg. They are a corporation that develops, manages and operates their
own units. They have 17 inns nationwide. Everything is new construction.
This building will be the first of its design for them. Their story heights
are just over 8' . They will have interior corridors. There will be 2 to 3
` J meeting rooms for use by the guests of the hotel. They do not have cooking
facilities in the building. There will be some 6 to 8 suites. The HVAC will
all be window units.
Commissioner Braiman arrived.
Mr. Asher stated they are going to try to get a restaurant on the site north
of the hotel. Residents of the business park want this type of hotel.
Seventy percent of the rooms require parking according to their study. The
rest of the patrons do not arrive by their own car. The restaurant will
stand on its own.
Mr. Asher stated the restaurant will come because of the hotel and it will
need pedestrian access to the hotel.
Chairman Sheldon was concerned with the 8 employee parking spaces using up
some of the required parking. That would leave a little over 1 parking space
per room.
Mr. Johannson stated in the morning they have complimentary breakfast. Most
of their deliveries are by UPS and they enter under the building canopy and
run in and out. Their vending machines are serviced by someone in a van that
will park in the lot during off hours, during the day time. They could put
180 parking stalls into the site. The Marriott Courtyard on Milwaukee Avenue
is about $72.00 per night. They do have a restaurant. The lobby of the
Dillon Inn is 26' by 45' and the second lobby is 30' by 45' . The developer
started business in 1980 and are owned by MBC Incorporated. Their units have
a van that will service local businesses for this site. If the demand is
there for them to provide service to Palwaukee Airport they will provide it.
Commissioner Rosenston was concerned with the traffic on Busch Parkway.
Commissioner Goldspiel suggested sidewalk access to Busch Parkway and
Milwaukee Avenue.
Chairman Sheldon requested information on parking, traffic patterns and snow
removal.
Mr. Johannson stated their employees fill the vending machines. They receive
deliveries for this infrequently. There is 30' to 40' of green space for
snow. If they need more room it will be removed from the site. Construction
should take approximately 10 months.
Staff was directed to get input from the police and fire department.
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The motion passed 4 — 1
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
Chairman Sheldon suggested that Commissioners encourage residents to apply to
the talent bank to fill the vacancies on several commissions.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Braiman, seconded by Commissioner Goldspiel, and
unanimously carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the
meeting at 11:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Kathleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
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Barbara Sheldon
Chairman
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