1988-02-03 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
The Plaza at Buffalo Grove Expansion (Ranch Mart)
February 3, 1988
Chairman Sheldon called the public hearing to order at 7:30 P.M. in the
Municipal. Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Krug
Mr. Musfeldt
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Silz
Mr. Lundine
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Davis
Mr. Katz
Also Present: Mr. D. Rosenthal, Developer
Mr. S. Wexler, Architect
Ms. L. Jones, Oak Creek Board, 51 Old Oak Drive
Ms. N. Baron, 51 Old Oak Drive
Mr. A. Abrams, Oak Creek III
Mr. D. Mattis, 1463 Chase Court
Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee
Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner
Chairman Sheldon read the notice of the public hearing as published in the
Buffalo Grove Herald and informed the audience of the format the meeting
would take. She then swore in Messrs. Rosenthal and Wexler
The exhibits were those contained Mr. Pfeil's January 29, 1988 memo to the
Plan Commission titled The Plaza at Buffalo Grove (Ranch Mart) and
Petitioner's Exhibits A through E.
Mr. Rosenthal, with the aid of Exhibits A through E noted the center
is currently 85,000 square feet. It is 24 years old and 25% vacant. They
plan to build 40,000 additional square footage of retail space on the north
end of the property and to acquire the site. They will redo the exterior and
roofs of the property. He stated that the main entrance of on the Buffalo
Grove Road will be aligned with the Grove Court Shopping Center's entrance.
They will have a service driveon the north behind the additional buildings
proposed. The project is in the B-3 zoning district. The amount of building
is in accordance with the original designation of the parcel.
Mr. Rosenthal briefly reviewed the changes that have been made to the plan
regarding the entrances, increase in length the stacking area on the
driveway to Buffalo Grove Road, the west and east realigned parking,
relocation of dumpsters, lining up entrances to the property from the
residential with the bike path, marked crossing area, and a location map of
Buffalo Grove Road to the north depicting curb cuts. They have supplied a
copy of the easement agreement, adjusted the screening of the roof top
mechanicals, and verified the location of the sidewalks along Buffalo Grove
and Dundee Roads on the property.
Mr. Pfeil supplied a copy of the 1975 approved plan which was then compared
with the current plan. The parking just meets with the requirements for the
current plan.
Mr. Carmignani, according to Mr. Pfeil, stated both of the north and south
entrances to the main driveway could remain open, and there is adequate
stacking space. There should be stop signs posted at the north and south
entrance to the main driveway. He feels the north curb cut would be used
mainly by people trying to exit the center.
Mr. Rosenthal noted they will maintain the landscaping on the north. They
are in agreement to front end parking only in the employee parking behind the
building. The parking could be angled on the north parking area to control
traffic at that entrance. They are agreeable to bringing the bike path into
the parking on site. The main tenant space is 12,000 square feet minimum.
It was suggested that the parking lanes be curbed adjacent to the additional
parking along Buffalo Grove Road.
Mr. Rosenthal noted there will be no sidewalk along the parking in back of
the new building. The back of the new building will look like the front.
There will be low lighting on the back of the building. The dumpsters on the
west property line will be fenced in.
Mr. Pfeil noted the setback shown as 30' on Buffalo Grove Road is really 35'
and should be shown.
Mr. Wexler said the plan should be corrected to show a 30' setback.
Ms. Jones was concerned with the screening from her property and notification
of the residents to meet with the developer.
Ms. Baron was concerned with traffic at the north entrance.
Mr. Abrams was concerned with the type of fence.
Mr. Mattis approved of the plan.
Chairman Sheldon closed the public
hearing at 8:4
3 P.M.
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Respectfully submitted,
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Kathleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
CAtegi3OC,
Barbara Sheldon
Chairman
Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing February 3, 1988 Page 3
PUBLIC HEARING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Amli 50 Arce Parcel
February 3, 1988
Chairman Sheldon called the public hearing to order at 8:55 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Krug
Mr. Musfeldt
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Silz
Mr. Lundine
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Davis
Mr. Katz
Also Present: Mr. M. Crestani, Planner
Mr. D. Manhard, Jr. , Engineer
Mr. G. Zale, Developer
Mr. G. Para, 5565 Old Field Road, Long Grove
Mr. E. Berkin, 5542 Oak Grove Circle, Long Grove
Ms. B. Newton, 5552 Oak Grove Circle, Long Grove
Mr. B. Nixon, 5356 Oak Grove Drive, Long Grove
Ms. L. Virgo, 5532 Long Grove Circle, Long Grove
Mr. I. Salinas, 5530 Oak Grove Circle, Long Grove
Mr. W. Casonova, 5532 Oak Grove Circle, Long Grove
Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee
Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner
Chairman Sheldon read the notice of the public hearing as published in the
Buffalo Grove Herald and informed the audience of the format the meeting
would take. She then swore in Messrs. Crestani, Manhard and Zale
The exhibits were those contained contained in Mr. Pfeil's January 29, 1988
memo to the Plan Commission titled Amli 50-Acre Parcel and Petitioner's
Exhibits A, B and C.
Chairman Sheldon excused herself because of a possible conflict of interest.
Commissioner Lundine stated he would abstain from voting on this project
because of a possible conflict of interest. He will participate but not
vote.
Mr. Crestani briefly reviewed the location, size of lots, breakdown of the
site in terms of uses. They are asking for R-1 zoning. The Park District
will plan the park site.
Mr. Manhard briefly reviewed the sewer system, they are trying to give a more
open area with the 4:1 slope rather than the required 6:1 slope. They are
trying to make a useable space in the detention area. They are providing
street lights along Buffalo Grove Road, intersections and cul-de-sacs. They
`J are installing sidewalks on Buffalo Grove Road in locations that they are not
providing in the Woodlands at Fiore. On Route 22 they will provide sidewalks
for the length of the property. He also reviewed the utilities with the aid
of Exhibit C.
Mr. Zale noted Lots 22 and 23 are in accordance with the building line and
are buildable eventhough the frontage is narrow. The detention area
maintenance will be the responsibility of the Village. There is 120'
right-of-way on Route 22. The park site is currently farm and they do not
plan on improving it. They will be picking up the water flow from Long Grove
and directing it through a pipe off of the park site. The Park District
supports the park site at this location.
Mr. Para, representing Estates of Oak Hill, presented a petition signed by 55
residents, 15 of whom were present at the meeting. The petition read "The
undersigned hereby requests that any park land considered for the referred
parcel be designed in a manner consistent with the surrounding community. We
specifically suggest that the park land be accessible to local pedestrian
traffic and be maintained in a woodland/prairie state and are opposed to
large scale recreational/entertainment facilities."
They would like to see the park site established in a natural state.
Mr. Pfeil stated the park site will return to the Commission for a special
use when the Park District has a development plan.
Mr. Berkin was concerned with the retention ponds.
Ms. Newton was concerned with pedestrian traffic and sidewalks.
Mr. Nixon was concerned with traffic on Buffalo Grove Road and Route 22.
Ms. Virgo was concerned with the landscaping.
Mr. Crestani noted they would not be providing trees on the park site but on
the detention site.
Mr. Salinas was concerned with the drainage.
Mr. Casonova was concerned with the Park District master plan.
Chairman Sheldon closed the public hearing at 9:35 P.M.
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Respectfully submitted,
,ittwei"cy
Kathleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
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Barbara Sheldon
Chairman
Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing February 3, 1988 Page 3
REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
The Plaza at Buffalo Grove (Ranch Mart) Expansion
Amli 50 Acre Parcel
February 3, 1988
Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 9:35 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Krug
Mr. Musfeldt
Mr. Rhodes
Ms. Silz
Mr. Lundine
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Davis
Mr. Katz
Also Present: Mr. D. Rosenthal, Developer, Ranch Mart
Mr. S. Wexler, Architect, Ranch Mart
Mr. M. Crestani, Planner, Amli 50
Mr. D. Manhard, Jr. , Engineer, Amli 50
Mr. G. Zale, Developer, Amli 50
Mr. W. Reid, Village Trustee
Mr. R. Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Musfeldt, to
approve the Regular Meeting minutes of January 20, 1988 as amended. Approval
was unanimous in favor and the motion passed.
COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Musfeldt attended the February 1, 1988 Village Board meeting at
which:
1. The Woodlands 3, 5 and 12 parcels request for additional home model
was granted.
2. The Town Center Phase I's 3' berm on the east along Route 83 will
not be allowed by the state because of line of sight problems.
Town Center residential area request to increase the number of
units for the elderly and decrease the apartment units for 80
townhomes and 72 multi-family units were not passed on to the
Commission.
3. The Woodlands at Fiore expansion of the commercial area at the
northeast corner of Route 22 and Buffalo Grove Road for zoning of
commercial rather than commercial and industrial was not passed on
to the Commission.
THE PLAZA AT BUFFALO GROVE (RANCH MART) EXPANSION
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Musfeldt that the
Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval preliminary plan for
The Plaza at Buffalo Grove dated January 27, 1988 marked as Petitioner's
Exhibit D, subject to:
1. Curbing and design improvements to demarcate the east ends of the
parking lanes on the site.
2. Providing that the pedestrian walk on the west side of the proposed
retail building be a concrete sidewalk above the level of the
driveway.
3. The walk along the north edge of the tennis courts be a concrete
surface differentiated from the driveway surface.
4. Stop sign in the exit driveway be moved from east of the sidewalk
to west of the sidewalk along Buffalo Grove Road.
5. That a sidewalk be extended from the east side of the new building
to the sidewalk along Buffalo Grove Road.
6. The sidewalk on the west side of the proposed building be reviewed
by the village traffic consultant for recommendation for any safety
measures that should be included in addition to the curb and
sidewalk.
7. That the Village Traffic Consultant provide written comments to the
Village Board concerning the design of the relocated driveway on
Buffalo Grove Road, the adequacy of the stacking area in the
driveway, and the efficiency and safety of the internal traffic
flow in the parking lot.
AYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Musfeldt, Rhodes, Silz and Lundine
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Davis and Katz
The motion passed 6 - 0.
Commissioner Goldspiel did not include anything about the sidewalk in front
of the bowling alley because a redevelopment plan for the bowling alley is
expected to come to the Commission.
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THE AMLI 50 ACRE PARCEL
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes that the
Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board zoning in the R-1 District,
and approval of the preliminary plan dated January 13, 1988, including public
hearing Exhibits A through C subject to:
1. Variations to the Development Ordinance as published which allow
a cul-de-sac approximately 660' in length and a 4:1 side slope in
the dry detention basin.
Discussion:
Commissioner Musfeldt was concerned with future development of the park site.
It might be important to require installation of sidewalk on Route 22 and the
back side along the Buffalo Grove park site.
Commissioner Rhodes was concerned that a representative of the Park District
was not at this meeting.
AYES: Goldspiel, Krug, Musfeldt, Rhodes and Silz
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: Lundine
ABSENT: Davis and Katz
The motion passed 5 - 0 - 1
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Silz, and unanimously
carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at
10:00 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
\ft/ Barbara Sheldon
Chairman
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