1986-12-17 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Golf Course East Property
Mobil Oil (Lake-Cook & Weiland)
December 17, 1986
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Chairman Sheldon called the regular meeting to order at 7:37 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Sheldon
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Davis
Mr. Krug
Mr. Musfeldt
Ms. Kaszubowski
Mr. Rhodes
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Gal
Mr. Katz
Also Present: Mr. D. Kershner, Architect, Golf Course East
Ms. G. Beesen, Attorney Golf Course East
Mr. B. Meltzer, Attorney, Property Owner Golf Course
Mr. R. Vane, Engineer Golf Course East
Mr. W. Grieve, Traffic, Mobil Station
Mr. C. Wagner, Real Estate Mobil Station
Mr. S. Triphahn, Engineer Mobil Station
Mr. R. Kenney, Attorney Mobil Station
Ms. M. Kowalski, Village Trustee
Mr. G. Glover, Village Trustee
Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Musfeldt, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes, to approve
the Regular Meeting minutes of December 3, 1986 as amended. Approval was
unanimous in favor and the motion passed.
Moved by Commissioner Rhodes, seconded by Commissioner Musfeldt, to approve
the Public Hearing minutes of December 3, 1986 as amended. Approval was
unanimous in favor and the motion passed.
COMMITTEE & LIAISON REPORTS
None
GOLF COURSE EAST PROPERTY
Mr. Truesdell stated this originally was zoned as a PUD in the R-9 zoning
district in 1974. Parcel A was approved for a mixed townhouse and garden
apartment use and the south side of the golf course was approved as townhomes
and apartments with 13 units per acre. The golf course east parcel was
approved for condominiums at the time for 16.1 units per acre. None of this
land has been developed but a portion was rezoned for the Buffalo Grove
Business Park. This pproposed parcel is a two and three story rental
apartment project with 15 units per acre.
Ms. Beesen stated the Village has requested a portion of this parcel be set
aside for the police station and therefore request that the north east corner
of the site be rezone from R-4 to R-9. Their plan will have 224 units. The
smallest setback will be 60' . They propose to screen the parking from the
golf course.
Mr. Kershner reviewed the landscape and site plan. The tennis court is where
the zoning is to be changed from R-4 to R-9. They are surrounded on the east
and north by residential. They have placed the ends of the buildings close
to the golf course instead of the fronts. They will have 2 and 3 story
buildings. The two story are located closest to the adjacent residential
parcels. They are providing a through access road connecting Church and
Checker Roads. Every building will have parking near its entrance. The
parking will be screened from all the roads and golf course. The setback
runs from 60' to 100' . He reviewed a rendering of the project looking south
and east. He reviewed an elevation of a building and the 3 story buildings
fronts. He stated the 2 bedrooms would have 1,200 square feet of space. The
three story buildings will have elevators.
There is a piece north of the golf course that is zoned R-9 that they agreed
to down zone and make single family in the R-4.
Ms. Beesen stated underground parking was discussed but the cost could not be
covered by the rental.
Commissioner Davis requested more information on the rental prices for the
apartments and the validity for under ground parking for the next workshop.
Ms. Beesen stated 75% of the units will have 2 bedrooms and 25% will have 1
bedroom. They are looking at upscale renters and are providing many
amenities.
Chairman Sheldon suggested for the next workshop information on the phasing,
where the project would begin and rental costs.
Commissioner Krug would like to see sidewalks connecting with the bike path
and on both sides of the road.
Mr. Kershner stated they have a jogging path that rings the project. They
could provide sidewalks on the other side of the access road.
Mr. Vane reviewed the land use (i.e. real estate office, home and
commercial) on the east side of the property. He explained the detention
pond.
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Regular Meeting
December 17, 1986 - Page 2
Mr. Kershner stated the 3 story building would be approximately 45' high.
They will have a 1 story 3,000 square foot clubhouse but have not completed
the plans on it yet.
Commissioner Rhodes would like to see underground parking and felt building 7
should be 2 stories. He would like to see elevators in all the buildings.
Commissioner Davis felt that with the new tax law of 1987 the developer might
want to look into marketing these apartments this as condominiums.
�•/ Mr. Kershner stated the buildings will be a combination of brick and stucco.
All mechanical equipment will be concealed. Each unit will have individual
heating and air conditioning. They will look into the bike path system and
integrate it into their plan.
Commissioner Musfeldt requested that the developer look at the possibility of
golf balls being hit into the pool.
Mr. Kershner noted the distance between the edge of the pavement of the
parking lot and the ROW is approximately 26' to 50' at different locations.
The parking stalls are 9' X 18' with 26' isles. The only variations is the
golf course is zoned R-4 residential and the general PUD Ordinance stated you
have to have a minimum setback of 35' or twice the building heights, which
would require a minimum 90' setback. Their setback is from 60' to 80' . The
road is 26' wide. They will comply with the Village dictates. The street
will not be dedicated.
Mr. Truesdell noted staff has not fully evaluated the widening of Church
Road.
Chairman Sheldon suggested that Mr. Truesdell make sure that the traffic on
this site is compatible with what is planned for the municipal building.
Mr. Truesdell stated the ROW on Checker Road is 40' from the center line and
is alright.
Mr. Kershner stated the berm will run around the entire site perimeter. They
are not showing a berm along the police station.
Commissioner Goldspiel felt staff should look into the matter of the
occupancy permit being issued by June as a condition of down zoning as noted
in the material given to the Commission in their packet.
MOBIL OIL (LAKE-COOK & WEILAND ROADS)
Mr. Kenny stated the site is just over an acre in unincorporated Lake County.
It is on the south side of Lake Cook Road but not in Lake County. It is a
very small portion of the Schwind property. They are currently zoned UR-2 in
Lake County. They are seeking annexation into the Village in the B-2 zoning
with 3 variations.
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Regular Meeting
December 17, 1986 - Page 3
The Comprehensive Plan of Buffalo Grove recommends PUD 6 units per acre for
this site. The Schwind's have no present plan for the balance of the parcel.
The variations are:
1 Reduction in the landscape buffer along the south road line from
12' to 10' .
2. Variation from 4 parking spaces to 3.
3. Reduction in the center island on the west which will allow more
green space and landscape to the residential to the east and south.
They are asking that the fence on the south lot line stop at 20' from the
property line which would be in line with the western curb of the parking
area and the fence line and on the east stop at approximately the entrance to
the car wash. They feel there should be two curb cuts on Lake Cook Road.
Mr. Wagner stated they have 179' on Weiland and 250' on Lake Cook Roads. The
facility will be very similar to the one on Dundee and Buffalo Grove Roads.
The building is 25' x 38' for sale of convenient items. Seventy to
seventy-five percent of the sales are cigarettes and soda. The car wash is a
token operation. There is a 16' by 20' enclosed trash area. There is a place
for air. He showed a picture of their facility at Rand and Ela Roads.
There is no public telephone on the proposed site.
Mr. Grieve stated only 25% of the people who enter the site use the car wash.
The car wash will not encumber any other areas of the site. There is only
need for 2 parking spaces and they are showing 3. They will provide 1
handicap parking space out of the three. Most traffic entering the site will
make a right turn in and right turn out. The 2 drives will handle the
traffic better and make for a smoother ingress and egress.
Mr. Triphahn reviewed the engineering. They will be a detention pond on the
east side of the property sized to carry a 100 year storm. The site is
tributary to Weiland.
Mr. Truesdell stated the bike path is on the north side of Lake Cook Road and
did not tie in here.
Chairman Sheldon stated there is no place for the car wash cars to dry off.
A wet car will drive onto the Lake/Cook Road pavement and the water will
freeze. This will cause a traffic hazard in the winter months.
Mr. Triphahn stated there are 3 storage spaces for the cars coming out of the
car wash.
Commissioner Musfeldt felt the first drive on Lake Cook should be a right
turn in only.
Mr. Wagner noted this will be a 24 hour operation.
Commissioner Rhodes would not like to see another gas station. He uses the
Buffalo Grove Road station because it has a free car wash. He has to maneuver
to get into the car wash line. It is not a smooth operation there. He would
like to see the car wash put in the back of the site.
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Regular Meeting
December 17, 1986 - Page 4
Commissioner Goldspiel did not feel this site was appropriate for a gas
station. He could not see varying the setback from the PUD on the south. He
felt there was a need for 4 parking spaces. The screening should be
maintained from the residential. He felt he could not support this plan.
Commissioner Krug would not like to see another gas station.
Commissioner Davis could not consider this with the 2 curb cuts on Lake Cook
Road. He would like to see the pumps islands angled. He felt the site is
not conducive to a gas station.
The Commission was polled on the land use. Yes indicating they would
entertain a gas station on this site.
AYES: Musfeldt, Kaszubowski, Davis, Krug
NAYES: Goldspiel, Rhodes
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Katz, Gal
The poll was favorable 4 - 2.
Commissioner Kaszubowski stated she voted yes with a lot of reservations
because if someone would come in with a residential plan they would ask for
commercial on this corner.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT
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Chairman Sheldon congratulated Mr. Truesdell on his new position.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Rhodes, and unanimously
carried to adjourn the meeting. Chairman Sheldon adjourned the meeting at
10:25 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Kathleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
Barbara Sheldon
Chairman
Buffalo Grove Plan Commission
Regular Meeting
December 17, 1986 - Page 5