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1983-06-15 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Buffalo Grove Commerce Center Unit 2B Rezoning June 15, 1983 Chairman Shields called the Public Hearing to order in the Municipal Building 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois at 7:37 P.M. Commissioners Present: Chairman Shields Mr. Davis Mrs. Reid Mrs. Kaszubowski Mr. Krug Commissioners Absent: Mr. Goldspiel Mrs. Sheldon Mr. Goldberg Also Present: Mr. Piggott, Buffalo Grove Commerce Center Mr. Glover, Village Trustee Mr. Truesdell, Village Planner Chairman Shields asked if the audience had any questions. There were none. He asked if there was any discussion from the Plan Commission. There was none. Mr. Truesdell stated the Board requested this be referred to the Plan Com- mission to look at the outlot. The Village had requested Lexington to purchase this lot and make it part of their development so that it would not end up being a piece of land that no one would maintain. Rezoning is requested to that this can become part of the Lexington development. Chairman Shields closed the Public Hearing at 7:39 P.M. Respectfully submitted, thleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Patrick Shields Chairman PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Northwood Grove Unit 2 Agreement Extension June 15, 1983 Chairman Shields called the Public Hearing to order in the Municipal Build- ing, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois at 7:38 P.M. Commissioners Present: Chairman Shields Mr. Davis Mrs. Reid Mrs. Kaszubowski Mr. Krug Commissioners Absent: Mr. Goldspiel Mrs. Sheldon Mr. Goldberg Also Present: Mr. Shaw, Attorney, Northwood Grove Mr. M. Rosenburg, Resident Ridgewood Subdivision Mr. B. Gillick, Resident Northwood Subdivision Mr. W. Stark, Resident Northwood Grove Subdivision Mr. T. Otto, Resident, Ridgewood Subdivision Mr. G. Glover, Village Trustee Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner Mr. Truesdell stated this agreement is given a five year term and as of June 30, 1983 the agreement expires. The developer has requested that the Village allow him to extend the terms and conditions of the agreement approved in 1978 for another five years. The single family is constructed and the multi- family is left. Being a PUD the zoning ordinance requires any amendment to that plan be brought to the Commission. The terms and the fees are being amended to bring it up-to-date. Mr. Shaw stated they presented a plan for downsized homes to the Village Board which was not received favorably. The only choice they had was to extend this agreement and work within the confines and restrictions imposed. They want time to develop something that is in line with the current market. They are keeping their options open but do not feel held to the present plan. Chairman Shields informed the audience of the format the meeting would take. In response to Commissioner Davis, Mr. Truesdell stated the plan presented meets the current ordinance and the fees are being updated. Mr. Shaw noted they are aware of the new ordinance and will meet it as well as the fees. - 2 - Commissioner Kaszubowski was uncomfortable in approving an extension and felt it was a policy measure the Board would take care of. Mr. Truesdell explained that the public hearing is a legal requirement because this is a PUD agreement. It is unusual. If it was an annexation agreement it would not come before the Commission, but this is a PUD and is held at the Plan Commission level. Usually developments are built out within the five year time limit. Chairman Shields noted that by recommending the extension the Commission is not approving anything specific other than what is already there. It is just granting them an extension of time in order to continue the process. Trustee Glover pointed out they can build this plan until the end of June. After June 30, 1983, without this extension, the developer would not have anything. Mr. Rosenburg, a Ridgewood Subdivision resident, stated the residents at the previous meeting were not in favor of a multi-family development. All of the residents would rather have single family. However, the plans were insufficient in terms of the size of the homes which were from 1,000 to 1,1+O0. square feet. The present homes are sized from 2,100 to 2,500 square feet. He felt it was not condusive to the area and that they should have to come back to the Village Board with a plan that fits in with the present single family homes. He also did not want the developer to be given an extension of time. Mr. Shaw referred to the Village Board meeting and stated a multi-family concept was what the Board recommended because of the tax and school impact on the area. Because of the-poor showing of, residents at this.meeting, he felt that the majority were in agreement wlth what the Board had dictated. Commissioner Davis explained that the builder has to come back to the Village no matter what. Mr. Gillick, a Northwood Subdivision resident, stated they have had five years to build. Why have they not done so? He felt the residents were not present at this meeting because they were not aware of it. Mr. Truesdell stated that notices were mailed to those residents living within 250 feet of the site. Mr. Stark, a Northwood Subdivision resident, attended the last meeting and felt the consensus of the Board was the Village is inundated with multi- family housing and wouldn't take any more. Trustee Hartstein stated the Village should seriously look into considering single family but not down- Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing June 15, 1983 - 3 - sized homes. Trustee Glover stated that on behalf of the Village Board there was no polling on this issue, only discussion. There were various reasons why individual Board members disagreed with the single family homes. The plan before the Commission was not discussed at the Board meeting. In response to Mr. Otto, a Ridgewood resident, Mr. Shaw stated he could not answer him as to when they would build on this site because of the changing market conditions. Chairman Shields closed the Public Hearing at 8:00 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Patrick Shields Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing June 15, 1983 1 r - 3 - sized homes. Trustee Glover stated that on behalf of the Village Board there was no polling on this issue, only discussion. There were various reasons why individual Board members disagreed with the single family homes. The plan before the Commission was not discussed at the Board meeting. In response to Mr. Otto, a Ridgewood resident, Mr. Shaw, stated he could not answer him as to when they would build on this site because of the changing market conditions. Chairman Shields closed the Public Hearing at 8:00 P.M. Respectfully submitted, // Zee v �-y (2}d Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Patrick Shields Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing June 15, 1983 REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Buffalo Grove Commerce Center Unit 2B Rezoning Northwood Grove Unit 2 Agreement Extension Zoning Ordinance June 15, 1983 Chairman Shields called the Regular Meeting to order in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove Illinois at 8:02 P.M. Commissioners Present: Chairman Shields Mr. Davis Mrs. Reid Mrs. Kaszubowski Mr. Krug Commissioners Absent: Mr. Goldspiel Mrs. Sheldon Mr. Goldberg Also Present: Mr. Piggott, Buffalo Grove Commerce Center Mr. Shaw, Attorney, Northwood Grove Mr. Glover, Village Trustee Mr. M. Rosenburg, Resident Ridgewood Subdivision Mr. B. Gillick, Resident Northwood Subdivision Mr. W. Stark, Northwood Subdivision Resident Mr. T. Otto, Resident, Ridgewood Subdivision Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Reid to approve the June 1, 1983 Regular Meeting Minutes. Approval was unanimous with Commissioner Kaszubowski abstaining. COMMUNICATIONS Commissioner Krug attended the June 13, 1983 Village Board meeting. There was nothing referred to the Plan Commission at that meeting. BUFFALO GROVE COMMERCE CENTER UNIT 2B REZONING Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Reid that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Buffalo Grove Commerce Center Unit 2B rezoning as presented. - 2 - AYES: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Kaszubowski, Krug NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Goldberg The motion passed 4 - 0. NORTBWOOD GROVE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT EXTENSION Moved by Commissioner Reid, seconded by Commissioner Kaszubowski that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the extension of the time limit on the Northwood Grove Planned Development agreement. AYES: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Kaszubowski, Krug NAPES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Goldberg The motion passed 4 - O. ZONING ORDINANCE UPDATE Mr. Truesdell briefly reviewed his memo of June 9, 1983 to the Plan Commission, Appearance Commission, Zoning Board of Appeals, Messrs Stone, Glover, Marienthal titled Zoning Ordinance Update - Response to Modifica- tions to the May 16, 1983 Draft as Discussed at the June 1, 1983 Plan Com- mission Meeting. Regarding the downsized homes, Commissioner Davis had no trouble with Point Four and would like it put into the future PUD's and annexation agreements. By increasing the minimum size the Village gives a developer an idea of what it wants. There is less of a possible legal loop hole if it is put in the PUD Ordinance, Zoning Ordinance and Annexation Agreement. Commissioner Kaszubowski felt this is a real problem when looking at the present economy. She feels very strongly that the people in the larger homes probably would be looking at a smaller sized house today in light of the higher interest rates. This should be done on a plan by plan basis. She felt nothing would be accomplished by doing this. If a natural disaster took place what would happen to the people who would have to rebuild? Mr. Truesdell stated that according to Mr. Raysa, in the event of a natural disaster these people would be protected if this only applied to develop- ments. from now on. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting June 15, 1983 - 3 - Commissioner Reid stated this was not a problem three years ago and will probably not be a problem three years from now. She likes the mix of housing in a development and is not sure she wants to load the ordinances up with this range. Mr. Truesdell stated the smallest home you can build, depending on the zoning, is a nine hundred square foot home. Trustee Glover stated when a developer comes in and wants to build a twelve hundred square foot home he can according to the ordinance. He would like to see an affordable home available but not be known as a community of afford- able homes. He did not like to see straight zoning without variation. He likes Recommendation Number 1 on Mr. Truesdell's memo. Mr. Truesdell was concerned with the problem of a custom home development because the average size of a home would change as each was built. He checked with three communities and they are all handling this in a different manner. Schaumburg was not going to do anything with it. Naperville has hired a consultant to look into and inform them as to how to proceed. Hoffman Estates plans on doing it through agreements. The Board considered taking care of this through agreements. Commissioner Davis suggested that Mr. Truesdell work out the language to be put into the PUD and annexation agreements stating a range. Trustee Glover asked what happens when R-8 or R-9 zoning comes in and a party wants to rezone it to R-5. There would not be a PUD nor an annexation agreement to cover it and there may not be an agreement to cover this situa- tion. Commissioner Kaszubowski pointed out that if the developer did not want to agree to the minimum standards he would not get the rezoning. Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Reid to recommend approval of the May 16, 1983 draft of the Zoning Ordinance and subsequent amendments as stated in Mr. Truesdell's memos of May 19, 1983 and June 9, 1983 to the Plan Commission, Appearance Commission, Zoning Board of Appeals, Messrs Stone, Glover and ldarienthal titled Zoning Ordinance Update and in addition Alternate Number 2 regarding downsized homes as explained in Mr. Truesdell's June 9, 1983 memo. AYES: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Kaszubowski, Krug `./ NATES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Goldberg The motion passed 4 - 0. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting June 15, 1983 - - FUTURE AGENDA On July 6, 1983 the Regular Meeting will be the Public Hearing on the Cedar View development provided the developer has all the necessary paperwork in. ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Krug to adjourn the meeting. The vote was unanimously favorable. Chairman Shields adjourned themeeting at 8:50 P.M. Respectfully submitted, (1 i0// Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: rr Patrick Shields Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting June 15, 1983