1983-09-07 - Plan Commission - Minutes REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Zoning Ordinance
Spoerlein Farm
Buffalo Grove Commerce Center
Wag's Restaurant
Small Area Plan
September 7, 1983
Chairman Shields called the Regular Meeting to order at 8:13 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Shields
Mr. Davis
Mrs. Reid
Mrs. Kaszubowski
Mr. Musfeldt
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Goldspiel
Mrs. Sheldon
Mr. Krug
Mr. Goldberg
Also Present: Mr. M. Schwartz, Developer, Spoerlein Farm
Mr. L. Freedman, Attorney, Buffalo Grove Commerce Center
Mr. R. Piggott, Land Developer, Buffalo Grove Center
Mr. J. Nelson, Architect, Buffalo Grove Commerce Center
Mr. T. McDonald, Developer, Wag's
Mr. R. Rittinger, Real Estate Manager, Waigreens
Mr. S. Stone, Village Trustee
Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Kaszubowski, seconded by Commissioner Reid,to approve
the June 15, 1983 Regular Meeting Minutes. Approval was unanimously favorable.
Moved by Commissioner Kaszubowski, seconded by Commissioner Reid, to approve
the July 6, 1983 Public Bearing Meeting Minutes. Approval was unanimously
favorable.
Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Reid, to approve
the July 6, 1983 Regular Meeting Minutes. Approval was unanimously favorable.
COMMUNICATIONS
None
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comurra AND LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Reid had the packet from the September 6, 1983 Village Board
meeting and would make it available to any Commissioner that was interested
in reviewing it. There was nothing at that meeting that was referred to
the Plan Commission.
ZONING ORDINANCE
Commissioner Davis stated he would like to wait for Mr. Raysa's report re-
garding child care in an industrial center before voting on the Zoning
Ordinance.
Trustee Stone stated child care in industrial districts is being done nation-
wide. It could be good for the community. If it is a special use, precau-
tions can be taken for the safety of the children.
The Commission was polled whether they favored a special use for a day care
center in an industrial district.
AYES: Commissioners Reid, Kaszubowski, Musfeldt
NAPES: Commissioner Davis
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Krug, Goldberg
The poll was favorable 3 - 1.
Commissioner Davis moved to table approval of the Zoning Ordinance so that
the entire Commission could vote on it. The motion failed for lack of a
second.
Moved by Commissioner Reid, seconded by Commissioner Kaszubowski, that the
Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the comprehensive
Zoning Ordinance revised August 31, 1983 subject to adding a child care
center as a special use in an industrial and office and research districts.
Discussion:
Commissioner Davis proposed that the public hearing be continued on this
issue because this particular part was not included in the public hearing
and felt there is a need for an additional hearing.
Mr. Raysa did not concur with Commissioner Davis.
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AYES: Commissioners Reid, Kaszubowski, Musfeldt
HAYES: Commissioner Davis
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Krug, Goldberg
The motion passed 3 - 0.
Commissioner Davis stated he voted nay because he felt the entire Commission
should vote on this, that tkd! 1s a change, namely the child care issue, and
it should have a more complete review.
SPOERLEIN FARM UNIT 1 - FINAL PLAT OF SUBDIVISION
Mr. Truesdell stated the Commission had received the approved preliminary
plat and it does conform to the Village ordinances. It has been reviewed
by himself and the engineering department.
Mr. Schwartz had the original document for signatures and gave it to
Mr. Truesdell. He stated the necessary signatures requested by Mr. Kuenkler,
per his memo dated August 29, 1983, to Mr. Truesdell had been affixed to the
original document.
Per Commissioner Kaszubowski's request, Mr. Schwartz showed the Commission
the requested signatures.
A discussion then followed regarding the temporary detention on the Mobil
Station site due to the failure of the developer to acquire the Stall property.
Commissioner Kaszubowski remembered attending meetings on this and there was
a phasing plan developed to insure that there would not be a gaping hole in
the middle of the site.
Trustee Stone stated that all the Village Board is sure of is that the first
portion of the commercial will be built before the manor homes are developed.
There is no assurance for the second commercial development.
Moved by Commissioner Kaszubowski, seconded by Commissioner Reid that the
Plan Commission recommend approval of the Spoerlein Farm Unit 1 - Final Plat
of Subdivision Project Number 1217 dated August 9, 1983.
Discussion:
Commissioner Davis felt the Village Board should be made aware there is tem-
porary detention on the Mobil site and that there is no guarantee that the
center section will be developed.
Trustee Stone stated it is aware of this.
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AYES: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Kaszubowski, Musfeldt
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Krug, Goldberg
The motion passed 4 - 0.
BUFFALO GROVE COMMERCE CENTER RESUBDIVISION UNIT 1, LOTS 1 THROUGH 4
Mr. Freedman stated that the resubdivision is located at the foremost
southerly lots of the subdivision and it is divided into ten lots.
Mr. Nelson handed out a plan and stated that the location is on the southern
most half of the Buffalo Grove Commerce Center and lies immediately north
of Lake/Cook Road east of Lexington Drive. It consists of 23,000 to 28,000
square feet. He then briefly explained the plan stating it would be the
same configuration as the original plan. He had tried to address the staff
comments on the plan handed out at the meeting. They have shifted the cul-
de-sac further north. The Northwood Grove subdivision is in the process of
replanning their parcel which includes a dedicated road. Staff would like
this dedicated road to connect to Lexington Drive. They have shifted the cul-
de-sac street to align with the Northwood Grove's street. If Northwood Grove
shifts its road further up north it avoids any conflict with the center island.
Mr. Nelson has provided for a slight shift south to align with this. They
are not requiring any zoning variations with this plan.
Mr. Freedman referred to Mr. Truesdell's August 10, 1983 memo to Mr. Balling
titled Buffalo Grove Commerce Center Resubdivision - Unit 1, Lots 1 through
4 - Plan Commission Referral.
Point 1 - They have no problem with.
Point 2 - They have adjusted their plan accordingly.
Point 3 - They feel this can be accomplished.
Mr. Freedman then referred to Mr. Balling's memo to Mr. Truesdell of
August 19, 1983 titled Buffalo Grove Commerce Center Resubdivision Unit 1,
Lots 1 through 4 - Staff Comments.
Point 3 - They suggest the same results could be accomplished if they could
prepare a declaration of covenants which would require those four
lots be responsible for the maintenance of their lots and that the
Village, at their option, force the work to be done and have a lien
against those lots. Otherwise there is no difficulty.
Point 4 - The ordinance provides for 25', they should be allowed to develop
it at 25'.
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Mr. Nelson stated they have placed the sidewalk on one side of the street,
the south side. Lot 1 might be developed as an office building and he
felt that the pedestrain flow would be south toward the bus or future commer-
cial area.
In response to Commissioner Reid, Mr. Piggott stated they have tried, since
the approval of the project, to get a corporate user for the 7. 5 acre site.
In the 2-1/2 to 3 years they have not been able to find one. The 20,000
square foot lots are moving faster than the larger ones.
Mr. Truesdell felt the sidewalk issue Mr. Nelson raised was valid and did
not have any serious objections.
In response to Commissioner Davis, Trustee Stone stated industrial revenue
bonds are requested by the user of the property who would come to the
Village Board and not the developer. The Village Board is meeting in work-
shop session to develop incentives to convince the developer to keep the large
lot.
Mr. Freedman pointed out that their problem is not that the buyers available
are interested in incentives, but that there are no buyers.
Mr. Truesdell noted this does require a public hearing.
Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Reid, that this be
moved to the public hearing stage. The vote was unanimously favorable and
the motion passed.
WAG'S RESTAURANT REVISED SITE PLAN - BUFFALO GROVE CENTER
Mr. McDonald stated the site is the northeast corner of Route 83 and Lake/
Cook Road. The contract is presently being negotiated by the buyer and
the seller.
In response to Commissioner Davis, Mr. Truesdell stated he has researched
several shopping centers in the Village regarding parking lots on a square
footage basis and this lot has as much if not more parking than the other
centers. The Jewel does a good business. The restaurant has different
peak hours from the Jewel. He has not observed any major problems with parking.
Trustee Stone felt it would be a problem on Saturdays but not during the
week.
In response to Commissioner Davis, Mr. Rittinger stated the restaurant would
be a 24 hour a day operation and they have 3 shifts. There are an average
of 14 employees per shift.
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Commissioner Davis felt that employee parking for the restaurant, Jewel,
and other stores on the site would take up a good amount of the spaces.
Mr. McDonald pointed out that employee parking is behind the Jewel and the
six tenant stores.
Mr. Rittinger shares Commissioner Davis' concern for parking. He pointed
out that Walgreens is a very conservative organization when picking out a
site. They feel they would need fifty to sixty spaces during their peak
hours which are from 4:00 P.M. to 9:00 P.M. and most of that would center
around the time between 5:00 P.M. and 7:00 P.M. The breakfast and midnight
periods do a good business also. They opened a store in McHenry with a
Jewel like this situation and the parking was very close. The restaurant
opened eight months after the Jewel. They seem to have sufficient parking.
They will probably put 4,000,000.00 into this store before they are
finished.
In response to Commissioner Shields, Mr. McDonald stated that regarding the
property north of the Grove Center, the party has broken off negotiations
at this point.
Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Reid, to recommend to
the Village Board approval of the revised site plan for the Wag's restaurant
in the Buffalo Grove Center dated August 29, 1983
AYES: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Kaszubowski, Musfeldt
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Krug, Goldberg
The motion passed 4 - 0.
WAG'S PLAT OF RESUBDIVISION - BUFFALO GROVE CENTER - LOT 1
Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Kaszubowski, to recommend
approval of the plat of resubdivision - Buffalo Grove Center - Lot 1 dated
August 30, 1983 subject to signatures and total acreage noted on the plat.
AYES: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Kaszubowski, Musfeldt
NAYES: None
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Krug, Goldberg
The motion passed 4 - 0.
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SMALL AREA PLANS
Commissioner Davis suggested that the small area plans be deferred until
there are more members of the Commission present.
Mr. Truesdell stated his presentation was the last of a series that the
Commission has been reviewing and there was nothing urgent to be discussed.
Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Kaszubowski, to
table the small area plans until the next regular meeting when there would
be a larger quorum. The vote was unanimously favorable.
ELECTION OF SECRETARY FOR THE PLAN COMMISSION
Chairman Shields opened up the floor for nominations for secretary of the
Plan Commission.
Commissioner Davis nominated Commissioner Kaszubowski for the position of
secretary.
Commissioner Reid moved, with Commissioner Davis seconding, to close the
nominations. The vote was unanimously favorable and Chairman Shields
closed the nominations.
VOTE FOR SECRETARY
Ayes: Commissioners Davis, Reid, Musfeldt
Nayes: None
Abstain: Commissioner Kaszubowski
Absent: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Krug, Goldberg
The motion passed 4 - 0 - 1.
FUTURE AGENDA
September 21, 1983 there would be no meeting.
October 5, 1983 would be a public hearing on the Buffalo Grove Commerce
Center, providing all the necessary material was in, and the tabled discussion
on the small area plans. It was determined that if the public hearing was not
ready for the October 5th meeting there would not be a special meeting to
discuss the small area plans.
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ADJOURBIIRL NT
Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Musfeldt to adjourn
the meeting. The vote was unanimously favorable and Chairman Shields
adjourned the meeting at 9:58 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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Kathleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
Patrick Shields
Chairman
Buffalo Grove Plan Commission
Regular Meeting
September 7, 1983
PUBLIC HEARING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Zoning Ordinance
September 7, 1983
Chairman Shields called the Public Hearing to order at 7:55 P.M. in the
Municipal Building, 50 Ra.upp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Shields
Mr. Davis
Mrs. Reid
Mrs. Kaszubowski
Mr. Musfeldt
Commissioners Absent: Mr. Goldspiel
Mrs. Sheldon
Mr. Krug
Mr. Goldberg
Also Present: Mr. S. Stone, Village Trustee
Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner
Chairman Shields dispensed with reading of the notice of the public hearing
as published in the newspaper because there was no one in the audience to
speak at the meeting.
There were no comments from the Plan Commission.
Mr. Truesdell stated he had been approached regarding the issue of a child
care center located in an industrial district. The petitioner felt it would
be less congested than a commercial site and closer to a client's place of
employment. The question was would the Village allow this as a special
use in an industrial district.
Commissioner Davis felt that no one would be on the look out for a child in
an industrial district and this would be putting children in jeopardy.
He did not object to a child care center in an office/research district.
Commissioner Reid felt this was an important consideration.
In response to Commissioner Kaszubowski, Commissioner Davis felt that no
one would be building a large enough facility in Buffalo Grove's industrial
district to support a child care center for their facility.
Mr. Truesdell noted that on Page 124+ of the Zoning Ordinance it stated
that if a company wanted to provide child care for its employees this could
be done.
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In response to Commissioner Reid, Mr. Truesdell stated theme have been two or
three inquiries for child care in industrial districts. There is a logical
agrument for a special use for this.
Commissioner Davis felt there were enough areas in the Village to provide
for child care and still be near an industrial district.
Mr. Raysa noted that if a center were opened in an industrial district,
it could draw clients from other areas and cause a problem.
Further discussion on the issue took place.
Chairman Shields closed the Public Hearing at 8:12 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
Patrick Shields
Chairman
Buffalo Grove Plan Commission
Public Hearing
September 7, 1983