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1983-12-07 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Northwood Grove Unit II December 7, 1983 Chairman Shields called the regular meeting to order at 7:41 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioner Present: Chairman Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mrs. Sheldon Mr. Davis Mrs. Kaszubowski Mr. Krug Mr. Goldberg Mr. Musfeldt Commissioners Absent: Mrs. Reid Also Present: Mr. DeGrazia, Developer, Northwood Mr. Wandrey, Planner, Northwood Mr. Bieszczad, Developer, Northwood Mr. Walder, Resident Mr. Garber, Resident Mr. Koch, Owner, Buffalo Grove Schwinn Ms. Rosenfeldt, Resident Ms. Schurf, Resident Mr. Stone, Village Trustee Mr. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. Kuenker, Village Engineer Mr. Truesdell, Village Planner Chairman Shields read the notice of the public hearing as published in newspapers. He informed the audience of the format the meeting would take and then swore in Messrs DeGrazia, Bieszczad, and Wandry. Mr. DeGrazia stated they are attempting to amend the site plan that is already approved. The approved plan is for 212 units. There is a sidewalk on Armstrong. They will attempt to shorten the cul-de-sacs ten feet to allow for more parking if it can be done. They are now at 2.6 parking spaces per unit versus 2.0 that is required. The new plan has 180 units. The original landscaping for the old plan was about half of what is budgeted for the new plan. The old plan had covered parking for 70% of the units and the new plan has covered parking for every unit. The new plan is a private gate community. They are asking for several variations which had been previously reviewed by the board. The development will be called Le Parc. He showed a rendering of the logo. There will be 24 hour security on the gate. He explained the detention as previously presented. There will be drains in the court yards that will go out into the storm sewer. Mr. Truesdell pointed out that the atrium technically calls for a variation to the ordinance, but felt the intent of the ordinance was something different. He also pointed out that the development is abutting residential and that requires that the fence not be more than five feet high. Mr. DeGrazia noted the fence will be similar to the one at Cambridge-on-the-Lakes. In response to Mr. Musfeldt's suggestion, Mr. DeGrazia did not believe they would have the room to make the cul-de-sacs like a boulevard. They did not feel the parking was that much of a problem. In response to Mr. Walder it was noted that this project would only generate thirty-five children. Mr. Truesdell explained the zoning of the surrounding property for Mr. Walder. Ms. Schurf did not like the sidewalk on Armstrong and would rather see shrubs than a fence. Ms. Rosenfeldt agreed with Ms. Schurf. Mr. Truesdell stated the school donation will be a cash donation based on Title 19. He presented the board with a letter from Mr. DeLance dated December 1, 1983 to Mr. Truesdell regarding this development. Commissioner Goldspiel stated he opposed this development because: 1) He did not like the concept of a closed community being so close to the center of the Village. 2) He felt it could not work because it does not have recreational facilities. 3) The units are too crowded. 4) The absence of guest parking will be a problem. 5) He would like to see more affordable units built. Mr. DeGrazia stated: 1) He felt people would recreate outside this development. 2) There are buyers seeking the intimate feel of this site. 3) Everyone does not want the same density. 4) Guest parking would not be a problem. 5) He respected Commissioner Goldspiel's opinion regarding pricing of the units but this is their price structure. 6) The streets will be built as wide as any subdivision. The Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing December 7, 1983 - Page 2 Association will have a fund to cover their repair. Commissioner Goldberg briefly reviewed Mr. DeGrazia's memo to Mr. Truesdell of November 29, 1983 and Mr. Truesdell's memo to the Plan Commission of December 2, 1983 titled Northwood Grove Unit II - Preliminary Plan. Mr. Raysa suggested the motion for this site be subject to review of the final PUD's regarding access for the Village. Chairman Shields closed the public hearing at 9:50 P.M. Respectfully submitted, I � Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Patrick Shields Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing December 7, 1983 - Page 3 PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Variation to Section 18.12.070.A1 of the Buffalo Grove Flod Plain Ordinance - 139 Mary Lu Lane December 7, 1983 Chairman Shields called the public hearing to order at 7:33 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mrs. Sheldon Mr. Davis Mrs. Kaszubowski Mr. Krug Mr. Goldberg Mr. Musfeldt Commissioners Absent: Mrs. Reid Also Present: Mrs. Coleman, Resident, 139 Mary Lu Lane Mr. S. Stone, Village Trustee Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner Chairman Shields readpublichearing the notice of the aspublished in the newspapers and informed the audience of the format the meeting would take. Mr. Kuenkler stated the previous garage could not be rebuilt under the new ordinance and the new garage requires a variation. In response to Commissioner Davis, Mrs. Coleman stated the garage was put in by the previous owner who did not put steel rods in the concrete floor. When the building settled the floor cracked down the middle. The new garage will be wider. Chairman Shields closed the public hearing at 7.40 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer, Recording Secretary APPR VED BY: Patrick Shields, Chairman gill PUBLIC HEARING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Martin & Marbry Real Estate Building, Dominion Subdivision Lot 2 December 7, 1983 I \ , Chairman Shields called the public hearing to order at 7.50 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioners Present: Chairman Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mrs. Sheldon Mr. Davis Mrs. Kaszubowski Mr. Krug Mr. Goldberg Mr. Musfeldt Commissioners Absent: Mrs. Reid Also Present: Ms. Singer, Architect, Martin & Marbry Mr. Brim, Architect, Martin & Marbry Mr. Haeger, Engineer, Martin & Marbry Mr. Koch, Owner, Buffalo Grove Schwinn Mr. Stone, Village Trustee Mr. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. Kuenkler, Village Engineer Mr. Truesdell, Village Planner Chairman Shields read the notice of the public hearing and informed the audience of the format the meeting would take. He then swore in Ms. Singer, Messrs Brim and Haeger. Ms. Singer explained the plan was brought before the Plan Commission on October 17, 1983 and November 2, 1983 in workshop session. They have reviewed the staff comments and have complied with everything the Commission was concerned with, a site location map illustrating the curb cuts was drawn up, they added a curb on the south of the property and put the detention area underground. In response to Commissioner Goldberg, Ms. Singer stated from a standpoint of cost the covered detention is more expensive. Mr. Haeger stated the way this is designed the parking lot will not drain onto Buffalo Grove Road. The only site drainage onto Buffalo Grove Road is at the entrance which slopes down to the road and there is no way they can take care of that. The new curb will not have any affect on the detention system. - 2 - In response to Chairman Shields, Mr. Kuenkler stated they do not comply with the Village minimum parking lot pavement thickness standards. Mr. Brim noted they will meet the requirements but feel it is unreasonable. Mr. Koch stated he has two detention basins and one only fills occasionally. He will get together with staff to see if it could be covered over. Commissioner Goldspiel suggested looking at the ordinance that permits this building to be on the property line. He was not comfortable with this. In response to Commissioner Goldspiel, Mr. Kuenkler did not feel there was anything that could be done regarding turns out of the cycle shop and this development. Both locations have relatively low volumes. Chairman Shields closed the public hearing at 8.10 P.M. Respectfully submitted, ,7,d1/-e- t}61---77LeA./ Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: , Y' --.- 0, - .,-(:1ff U,(___c =7:711 Patrick Shields —J Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Public Hearing December 7,1983 I I REGULAR MEETING BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION Variation of Flood Plain Ordinance at 139 Mary Lu Lane Martin & Marbry (Dominion Subdivision Lot 2 Northwood Grove Unit II Chatham, Unit III Cedar View, Unit I Dedication-Buffalo Grove Road and Ill. Rt. 83 December 7, 1983 Chairman Shields called the regular meeting to order at 7:41 P.M. in the Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Commissioner Present: Chairman Shields Mr. Goldspiel Mrs. Sheldon Mr. Davis Mrs. Kaszubowski Mr. Krug Mr. Goldberg Mr. Musfeldt Commissioners Absent: Mrs. Reid Also Present: Mrs. Coleman, Resident 139 Mary Lu Lane Ms. Singer, Architect, Martin & Marbry Mr. Brim, Architect, Martin & Marbry Mr. Haeger, Engineer, Martin & Marbry Mr. DeGrazia, Developer, Northwood Mr. Wandrey, Planner, Northwood Mr. Bieszczad, Developer, Northwood Mr. Haller, Cedar View Mr. Walder, Resident Mr. Garber, Resident Mr. Koch, Owner, Buffalo Grove Schwinn Ms. Rosenfeldt, Resident Ms. Schurf, Resident Mr. Stone, Village Trustee Mr. Raysa, Village Attorney Mr. Kuenker, Village Engineer Mr. Truesdell, Village Planner APPROVAL OF MINUTES Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Davis to approve the November 16, 1983 public hearing meeting minutes for the Corporate Grove Corridor Annexation and zoning. Page 1, paragraph 5 add " Mr. Damish", after "develop" change to read "part in I-1 District, part B-1 and remainder R-9 ".2, paragraph 1 add "No variations were required." Approval was unanimously favorable and the motion passed. - 2 - Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Davis to approve the public hearing meeting minutes for the Commonwealth Edison Right-of-Way Annexation and Zoning. Approval was unanimously favorable and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Goldspiel to approve the public hearing meeting minutes for the Corporate Grove Annexation and Zoning. Page 1, paragraph4 add "and" after "Box,"; paragraph 6 add "which were marked as exhibits". Page 3, paragraph 10 change "is" to "it" and "sights" to "sites". Page 4, paragraph 2 after "with" change to read "adjacent property on the north is developed prior to his development's completion". Approval was unanimously favorable and the motion passed. Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Musfeldt to approve the regular meeting minutes of November 16, 1983. Page 5, paragraph 6 delete "on a zero lot line". COMMUNICATIONS None COMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS Commissioners Goldberg, Goldspiel and Musfeldt had all attended different Village Board meetings but nothing had been referred to the Plan Commission. VARIATION TO SECTION 18. 12.070.A1 OF THE BUFFALO GROVE FLOOD PLAIN ORDINANCE - 139 MARY LU LANE Moved by Commissioner Goldberg, seconded by Commissioner Musfeldt to recommend to the Village Board approval of the Variation to Section 18. 12.070.A1 of the Buffalo Grove Flood Plain Ordinance, 139 Mary Lu Lane. AYES: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Davis, Kaszubowski, Krug, Goldberg, Musfeldt NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT Commissioner Reid The motion passed 7 - 0. Chairman Shields called a recess at 7.49 P.M. and reconvened the meeting at 8.11 P.M. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting December 7, 1983 1 - 3 - PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL - MARTIN & MARBRY REAL ESTATE Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Goldberg that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Martin & Marbry Real Estate Building, Dominion Subdivision Lot II Preliminary Plan dated November 23, 1983 with the revisions of November 23, 1983, and the Engineering Plan of November 30, 1983 subject to the ordinance being met regarding pavement thickness in the parking lot as agreed to by the developer. AYES: Commissioners Sheldon, Davis, Kaszubowski, Krug, Goldberg, Musfeldt NAYES: Commissioner Goldspiel ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioner Reid The motion passed 7 - 0. Commissioner Goldspiel explained he voted no because of the building on the property line with the green area immediately adjacent to it on the next property. Chairman Shields called a recess at 8:22 P.M. and reconvened the meeting at 9:51 P.M. PRELIMINARY PLAN APPROVAL - NORTHWOOD GROVE UNIT II Moved by Commissioner Goldberg, seconded by Commissioner Sheldon that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Northwood Grove Unit II Final Plat of Subdivision dated October 5, 1983 containing the following variations: 1. Private streets be allowed. 2. Five foot variation on the width of the cul-de-sacs at the neck of the cul-de-sacs only. 3. A grade variation on the shore line may be required. 4. That whereas the normal shore line adheres to the requirements of setbacks from the detention areas that a five foot variation in this setback be allowed at the high water level. 5. That a variation be allowed for the location of the sidewalks to be set at the perimeter of the development rather than adjacent to the streets. 6. That a ten foot variation be allowed separating the back of Building #24 to the back of Building #26. 7. That a variation be allowed allowing the use of the Atrium on interior patio concept as it relates to the court yard ordinance. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting December 7, 1983 III - 4 - 8. All of the PUD ordinances be approved by the Village legal department. 9. The variation allowing for the reduction of the cul-de-sacs be 40' rather than 43.5' be approved. AYES: Commissioners Sheldon, Davis, Kaszubowski, Goldberg, Musfeldt NAYES: Commissioners Goldspiel, Krug ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioner Reid The motion passed 5 - 2. FINAL PLAT OF SUBDIVISION - CHATHAM, UNIT III Mr. Truesdell stated all of the items that were noted on the correspondence had been taken care of. Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Sheldon that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Final Plat of Subdivision for Chatham, Unit III dated November 1, 1983. AYES: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Davis, Kaszubowski, Krug, Goldberg, Musfeldt NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioner Reid The motion passed 7 - 0. FINAL PLAT OF SUBDIVISION - CEDAR VIEW, UNIT I Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Krug that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the Final Plat of Subdivision of Cedar View, Unit I dated November 30, 1983 subject to the proper signatures being attached. AYES: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Davis, Krug, Goldberg, Musfeldt NAYES: None ABSTAIN: Commissioner Kaszubowski ABSENT: Commissioner Reid The motion passed 6 - 0. Mr. Kuenkler stated that this plat closes and it is in accordance with the comprehensive plan. Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting December 7, 1983 - - 5 - PLAT OF DEDICATION - BUFFALO GROVE ROAD AND ILLINOIS ROUTE 83 Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Musfeldt that the Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the plat of dedication for Buffalo Grove Road and Illinois Route 83 dated December 23, 1983. AYES: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Davis, Kaszubowski, Krug, Goldberg, Musfeldt NAYES: None ABSTAIN: None ABSENT: Commissioner Reid The motion passed 7 - 0. Mr. Kuenkler stated this is similar to several plats that they have handled before. The concrete monument will be installed by the developer. They have added the graphic scale. This plan should close. FUTURE AGENDA There was not a quorum for the Regular Meeting of December 21, 1983 and the next meeting would be January 4, 1984. ADJOURNMENT Moved by Commissioner Sheldon, seconded by Commissioner Musfeldt to adjourn the meeting. The vote was unanimously in favor and Chairman Shields adjourned the meeting at 10:31 P.M. Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Comer Recording Secretary APPROVED BY: Patrick Shields Chairman Buffalo Grove Plan Commission Regular Meeting December 7, 1983