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REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Zoning Ordinance Revision
August 4, 1982
Chairman Shields called the Regular Meeting to order in the Municipal Building,
50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove at 7:34 P.M.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Shields
Mr. Goldspiel
Mrs. Sheldon
Mr. Davis - left at 9:46 P.M.
Mr. Glover
Mrs. Reid - left at 9:34 P.M.
Mrs. Kaszubowski
Mr. Krug - left at 7:40 P.M.
Mr. Goldberg
Commissioners Absent: None
Also Present: Mr. R. Davis, Resident
Mrs. N. Gleeson, Resident
Mr. J. Polowy, Resident
Mr. R. Witt, Resident
Mr. S. Stone, Village Trustee
Mr. R. Heinrich, Chairman Zoning Board of Appeals
Mr. F. Hruby, Director Building and Zoning
Mr. R. Henning, Building and Zoning
Mr. E. Larson, Appearance Commission
Mr. W. %ysa, Village Attorney
Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Glover, seconded by Commissioner Kaszubowski to approve
the Regular Meeting Minutes of July 21, 1982. Page 2, paragraph 7 add "Comm-
issioner Kaszubowski questioned whether this plan was similar to the original
preliminary plat since she was not a member of the Plan Commission when the
original plat was approved. " Approval was unanimous with Commissioners
Goldspiel, Davis, and Krug abstaining.
COMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Krug attended the August 2, 1982 Village Board Meeting. At that
meeting they discussed setting fees or tax increases to cover the Lake Michigan
water. There will be a Water Commission meeting to discuss this issue on
August 16, 1982. The Village participated in the Checker Road sewer oversizing
with the builder. The ordinance for snow removal was not passed but they did
make a resolution asking everyone to shovel their sidewalks. The Appearance
Commission rejected the sign for the Continental Bank building. A fence request
in the Villas of Buffalo Creek division was denied. They cited the police and
fire officers that saved a little boy after the last bad rain.
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Commissioner Krug left the meeting at 7:40 P.M.
Commissioner Goldspiel also attended a Village Board meeting several weeks
ago at which the Wynnedale development was approved. He felt it is very
important that the Plan Commission give very carefull review to the basics
of a plan because the Commission has more time to go over these items than
the Village Board.
Chairman Shields stated the proposed McDonald Restaurant for Terramere Plaza
was vetoed by the Village of Arlington Heights.
Commissioner Davis asked if there would be a public hearing by the Water
Commission regarding the new water rates.
Trustee Stone stated that he was not aware of a public hearing but there would
be a public meeting on this subject on August 16, 1982 and everyone was in-
vited to give input.
Commissioner Sheldon asked about flooding after the last bad rain storm.
Mr. Truesdell stated the public works office was very busy the day after
the flood. He was not sure as to how bad it was in specific sections of
the Village, however this rain did exceed a one hundred year storm. From
his observation, the newer areas did better than the older developments
which were built prior to passage of the current ordinance.
ZONING ORDINANCE REVISION
Mr. Truesdell briefly reviewed his memo of June 21, 1982 to the Plan Commission,
Zoning Board of Appeals and Appearance Commission titled Zoning Ordinance
Revision. The following comments were made.
Mr. Truesdell stated that the definition of "Frontage" on Page 118 was incorrectly
deleted. It would be added back in.
Article 17. 52.030 - Application Process Notice Hearing for Appeal
Mr. Heinrich stated he talked with Mr. Raysa and feels there is a significant
burden being put on the individual homeowner the in notifying adjacent property
owners the way the ordinance is written. He asked that something a little more
workable for the average citizen be developed.
Commissioner Kaszubowski suggested implementing the use of a sign on the
property stating a hearing was to take place.
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Mr. Heinrich stated they have asked for this a number of times. He felt
it should be written in the ordinance that way. It would allow other in-
terested parties to know about the hearing.
It was determined the sign would be considered in addition to the two hun-
dred fifty foot notification.
Mr. Raysa did not see a problem with this suggestion.
Mr. Hruby felt there would be expenses involved with a sign, that of the
lettering, erection and taking down. The present fees do not cover this.
Trustee Stone suggested a sign similar to those used by other municipal-
ities where only the date is changed and the lettering remains the same.
It was suggested that the sign be no larger than sixteen square feet by
Mr. Heinrich.
Commissioner Glover suggested that in the definition of "Car Wash", after
the first line insert the phrase, "that no more than one motor vehicle at
a time be washed".
17. 12.4+85 Section A
Commissioner Goldspiel pointed out that the word "boat" was typed incorrectly.
Section B
Commissioner Goldspiel felt the terminology referring to "boat trailer"
should be cleaned up.
Mr. Raysa will research this point.
17.20, Page 24 through 26
Mr. Heinrich questioned the wording for the definition of "parch".
Mr. Hruby stated he had a meeting with the Village Attorney and the Village
Planner regarding this definition. They will review it again.
17.28 - Special Uses
Mr. Heinrich felt there should be no changes as to which Board reviews a
Special Use. It was his opinion that the PUD 's should be taken out of this
section altogether.
Commissioner Goldspiel felt it was not clear to him, from reading this section,
that PUD's would go to the Plan Commission.
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Mr. Truesdell stated that the Plan Commission review of PUD's is covered
because the Development Ordinance is referenced in this section which
basically gives the Plan Commission the authority of reviewing plans and
plats.
Mr. Truesdell informed the Commission that a special use has to be listed
as a special use. If it is not listed as a special use it cannot be heard.
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Commissioner Goldberg recommended that special uses should go before the
Plan Commission.
Commissioner Goldspiel felt PUD's variances on raw undeveloped land should go
before the Plan Commission. Changes in use of existing structures should
go to the Zoning Board of Appeals. Mr. Heinrich agreed.
Chairman Shields directed the staff to look into this.
Mrs. Gleeson stated that the Crossings has a special use situation with
their barn.
Mr. Truesdell replied that the way the ordinance has been drafted, Section F
on Page 33, the Crossings would be able to come before the Plan Commission
with a plan and have that reviewed with a recommendation to the Village Board.
Mr. Heinrich felt the way the ordinance is written now, or the old ordinance,
a commercial use cannot be permitted in a residential PUD:
Mr. Truesdell felt they would have to come back and have an amendment to the
PUD.
Mrs. Gleeson stated they do not want a zoning change.
Mr. Raysa stated the current ordinance sets up two types of PUD's, residential
and general planned development. General PUD's can have some commercial on
them.
Some discussion then tookplace regarding the amendingof the PUD as it
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relates to the Crossings Barn.
In response to Commissioner Kaszubowski's question Mr. Raysa replied that
yes under the new ordinance, Page 33, if it was passed as it is, the Crossings
could come in ask for a variance.
Commissioner Goldspiel felt the old language regarding this situation should
be put back in the new ordinance, that a use be primarily for the residents
of the PUD.
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Commissioner Goldberg stated if the Plan Commission wants commercial use in a
planned area for residents, allowances for people to come in apply should be
made. If the Commission does not feel they want this, they should write it
in the ordinance accordingly.
Commissioner Glover agreed. He would like to have the commercial develop-
ment linked totally to the development that it is in.
The Commission was polled as to whether they wanted the section rephrased
to contain the language of the old ordinance regarding commercial for a
PUD. Yes vote indicated continued use of the old ordinance's language.
AYES: Commissioners Goldspiel, Sheldon, Glover, Reid, Kaszubowski
NAYES: Commissioners Davis, Goldberg
ABSTAIN: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Krug
The poll was favorable 5 - 2.
Commissioner Reid left the meeting at 9:34 P.M.
Commissioner Goldspiel stated historically Buffalo Grove had one of the
earliest PUD's in the area. It started with the residential PUD and
the general PUD came later.
Commissioner Sheldon asked staff to explore the possibility that the
Village could reexamine these two catagories and possibly combine them.
Commissioner Goldspiel questioned the height of radio and TV towers being
60' as stated on Page 44.
Mr. Truesdell replied that 60' is the height necessary to pick up a signal.
Commissioner Goldberg suggested using the term passive receiver so that the
antenna is not used as a sender.
Trustee Stone pointed out that Ham operators are senders.
Commissioner Davis left at 9:46 P.M.
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Commissioner Glover questioned whether the Village needed stacking space
for drive-in's and drive-in windows in restaurants.
Mr. Truesdell will research this.
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Commissioner Goldspiel felt the wording of this section should be reexamined.
17. 40 - Reverse Corner Lot
Some discussion took place regarding the definition of a reverse corner lot.
Mr. Truesdell stated in the present ordinance there is no provision for a
minimum rear yard i,na reverse corner lot. The new ordinance gives it a
figure equivalent to what the normal side yard is.
Commissioner Goldspiel felt this section would pose problems with builders of
new developments. He suggested requiring the same kind of a back yard on a
reverse corner lot as the regular lot and have someone seek a variance if
necessary.
Mr. Hruby stated staff is concerned with the fact that we would be making
many residents non-conforming by passing this ordinance. He observed that
the side yard is like the rear yard in most cases.
Mr. Heinrich suggested leaving it the way it is in the old ordinance and broad-
ening the variation authority.
After some discussion the terms between one third and one half and the Zoning
Board of Appeals should consider further how much variance should be allowed.
Mr. Truesdell pointed out that the variation section is totally under the
jurisdiction of the Zoning Board of Appeals.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Sheldon to adjourn
the meeting. Chairman Shields adjourned the meeting at 10:38 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
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thleen Comer
Recording Secretary
APPPOVED BY:
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Patrick Shields
Chairman
Buffalo Grove Plan Commission
Regular Meeting
August 4, 1982