1982-01-05 - Plan Commission - Minutes PUBLIC HEARING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Wellington Hills
January 5, 1982
Chairman Shields called the Public Hearing to order in the Municipal Build-
ing, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove at 7:34 P.M
Commissioners Present: Chairman Shields
Mr. Goldspiel
Mrs. Sheldon - arrived at 7:43 P.M.
Mr. Davis
Mr. Glover
Mrs. Reid
Mrs. Kaszubowski
Mr. Krug
Mr. Goldberg
Commissioners Absent: None
Also Present: Mr. E. Griffin, Developer, Wellington Hills
Mr. R. Brubaker, Land Developer, Wellington Hills
Mr. J. Carlstrom, Resident
Mr. S. Parr, Resident
Ms. W. Mielke, Resident
Mr. S. Stone, Village Trustee
Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. W. O'Reilly, Park District
Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner
Chairman Shields read the notification of the public hearing as published in
the newspaper and instructed the audience the format the meeting would take.
He then swore in Messrs Brubaker and Griffin.
Mr. Griffin presented receipts from the certified mailing notifying residents
within two hundred fifty feet of the site of the public hearing. He then
briefly explained the site location and stated that the Hoffman Group was
acting as an agent for Tallman Federal Savings to develop the property. He
reviewed the history of the site and explained that it was not in their best
interest to market such a small area of twenty-two townhome units as called for
in the approved plan. They are reouesting a change of plan to single family
lots of the same size as those comprising the rest of the development.
Mr. Brubaker introduced himself and gave some background of the company he
represents, Michael Ives and Associates, Inc. They propose to build one hundred
sixteen (116) single family lots at six thousand (6,000) square feet (60'
by 100' ) which represents a reduction of approximately eight units of the overall
subdivision as proposed with the relocation of the outlot. In Unit II, which
is presently vacant, they propose the area designated as townhomes be converted
into approximately fourteen (14) single family lots and relotting of some of
the area around some of the cul-de-sacs. They will delete the twenty
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. (20) foot designated landscape easement which will no longer be necessary for
single family homes. This was originally common area for the to: nhomes. Lot
900h, the cutlot, which was to be for future access will be available to be
built upon and another lot •.was chosen for access.
Mr. Griffin then shoved renderings of the four model homes they have develop-
ed for the site. The Elm, a two story, three bedroom at 1,600 square feet or
a four bedroom at 1,750 feet; the Redwood, a two story of 1,900 square feet;
the Spruce a three bedroom split of 1,4*80 square feet and the Chestnut a three
bedroom, two story of 1,640 square feet.
They hope to open models located south of Gardenia Lane on Lots 4, 5 and 6
in April or early May. They project selling about fifty homes a year in this
development. The timing of certain improvements are stated in. the PUD agree-
ment which are:
1) The footbridge crossing going over into the back property installed
by June 1, 1983.
2) Farrington Drive to Route 83 improvement substantially completed by
July 1, 1983.
3) Lot 9002 to be completed by June 15, 1983.
4) Two other common area Lots 9001 and 9000 completed by July 1, 1983.
He stated they corrected damage to the Buffalo Grove Road right-of-way and
reseeded it. They do not look with favor going in there and reworking it for a
sidewalk.
Commissioner Goldspiel questioned the area or lots that appear to be 6,000
square feet and Mr. Griffin replied they will be built as 6,000 square foot
minimum lots.
In response to Commissioner Goldspiel, Mr. Griffin stated the dimensions shown
on the plan are rounded off to the nearest foot. The exact calculations will be
available for the final plat. All of the corner lots are showing fifteen (15)
feet on the side corner which is in conformance with the existing ordinance
on the property.
Commissioner Goldspiel felt the sidewalk should be built along Buffalo Grove
Road. He stated it was very important that the Plan Commission maintain the
Village policy of arterial streets having sidewalks.
In response to Commissioner Goldberg, Mr. Griffin replied the only other ex-
ceptions to the normal residential ordinance on this plan. is the lot size and
the right-of-way's are fifty (50) feet. The improvements that now exist are
basically all on the streets.
Commissioner Goldberg felt there vas little reason to have a PUD in order to
develop a single family residential area.
Commissioner Goldspiel vas on the Plan Commission when this plan was originally
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presented and was opposed to the plan at that time. There were some
problems with this site and some benefits. The concept of this was to try
and make the most of the useable land and at the same time augment the
adjacent park area. The concept that accounts for the smaller lots is having
the ability for the residents and others to use these areas.
In response to Commissioner Goldspiel, Trustee Stone replied that most of the
concerns of the Village Board regarding this site are covered by the time-
table set up in the PUD agreement
Commissioner Reid pointed out that in a previous workshop the Plan Commission
wanted to view the original landscape plans regarding Farrington Drive and
Route 83. Her concern was the fact that an eight (8) foot bike path was to
be put along Route 83. She questioned if there would be a grass buffer
between the bike path and the roadway.
Mr. Truesdell stated the bike requested path
was because that is what is
reflected in the Comprehensive Plan. It would look like the one located at
Arlington Heights Road north of Lake Cook Road. The Village would be res-
ponsible for putting trees in that area, the parkway.
Chairman Shields asked for questions from the floor.
Mr. James Carlstrom, Lot 54, asked if there were any changes on the existing
lot lines of the homes that are presently built.
Mr. Griffin stated no.
After some discussion Mr. Griffin stated that he could deed a small piece
of the lot adjacent to Mr. Caristrom's lot so that all of his drivewaywould
belong to him.
Mr. Parr, 411 Gardenia Lane, was concerned about the minimum size of the
homes and the stipulation in the PUD for improvements. He questioned what
would happen if the improvements did not meet the timetable.
Mr. Griffin stated that the Village has requested an improvement bond letter
of credit for the property which contains certain language that sets forth
these dates. If they are not complied with the Village has the right to call
for the money.
Chairman Shields explained that if they do not complete the improvements on
time, the Village will then do it as the money for them has already been
set aside.
Commissioner Goldspiel stated the ordinance gives this developer, under the
present zoning, the right to build minimum size single family homes and the
proposed homes are above the minimum.
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Commissioner Kaszubowski felt a mixture of homes is the most feasible way this
area is going to be developed.
Ms. Mielke, 507 Harris Drive, asked Commissioner Glover what the size of the
home was that the Appearance Commission did not approve.
Commissioner Glover replied he was not sure.
Chairman Shields closed the Public Hearing at 8:!2 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Kathleen Comer
Recording Secretary
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Public Hearing
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REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
Wellington Hills
Johnson Property
January 5, 1983
Chairman Shields called the Regular Meeting to order in the Municipal Build-
ing, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove at 8:43 P.M.
Commissioners Present: Chairman Shields
Mr. Goldspiel
Mrs. Sheldon
Mr. Davis
Mr. Glover
Mrs. Reid
Mrs. Kaszubowski
Mr. Krug
Mr. Goldberg
Commissioners Absent: None
Also Present: Mr. E. Griffin, Developer, Wellington Hills
Mr. R. Brubaker, Land Developer, Wellington Hills
Mr. W. Johnson, Property Owner, Johnson Property
Mr. J. Carlstrom, Resident
Mr. S. Parr, Resident
Ms. W. Mielke, Resident
Mr. S. Stone, Village Trustee
Mr. W. O'Reilly, Park District
Mr. W. Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. R. Kuenkler, Village Engineer
Mr. J. Truesdell, Village Planner
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Kaszubowski to
proceed to the discussion of Wellington Hills and return later to approval
of the minutes. The vote was unanimously favorable.
WELLINGTON HILLS
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Davis, that the
Plan Commission recommend to the Village Board approval of the preliminary
plan of Wellington Hills dated November 12, 1982 revised December 22, 1982
subject to the following changes:
1) The revision of the plan and subsequent Lot 55 to add a small portion
of an existing driveway going to the property of Lot 54.
2) Lot 106 being brought up to six thousand square feet, if it is not
presently six thousand square feet.
3) Installation of sidewalks along Buffalo Grove Road on the eastern
edge adjacent to the property along Buffalo Grove Road.
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Discussion:
Commissioner Kaszubowski was concerned with the sidewalks being built along
Buffalo Grove Road and not connecting anything at present. She felt they
would deteriorate before they were used. She did agree with building them
at a later date.
Commissioner Glover stated the Animal Hospital was at the intersection. The
property to the north could be developed at any time. People who live in
this development and the one to the south could use this sidewalk.
Commissioner Goldspiel suggested it would create an added burden to have the
sidewalks put in at a later date.
In response to Commissioner Goldberg, Chairman Shields stated that the screen-
ing at Buffalo Grove Road and Route 83 was reviewed at the last workshop and
it was determined that this would be left up to the individual property
owners.
THE VOTE:
AYES: Commissioners Goldspiel, Davis, Glover, Reid, Kaszubowski, Krug
NAYES: Commissioner Sheldon
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Goldberg
ABSENT: None
The motion passed 6 - 1 - 1
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Kaszubowski, seconded by Commissioner Reid to approve
the December 15, 1982 Public Hearing minutes on the 50' Strip Zoning on the
Northeast Corner of Lake/Cook Road and Lexington Drive. Approval was unanimously
favorable with Commissioners Sheldon, Krug and Goldberg abstaining.
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Davis to approve the
December 15, 1982 Public Hearing Minutes on the 50' Strip Zoning Northwest
Corner of Lake/Cook Road and Lexington Drive. Approval was unanimsouly favor-
able with Commissioners Sheldon, Krug and Goldberg abstaining.
Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Goldspiel to approve
the December 15, 1982 Regular Meeting Minutes. Page 1, paragraph 8 after "or"
take out "for" and insert "to take" and after "seniors" take out "to take".
Page 3, paragraph 2, change "unit" to "utility", paragraph 3 add "need for a"
after "the". Page 4+, paragraph 2 change "questioned" to "asked the reason for".
paragraph 4, after "felt" add "that" and after "sidewalks" add "on Route 83 and
Buffalo Grove Road", paragraph 11 after 'bite" add "so long as the site meets the
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ordinance" paragraph 12 after "on" add "these". Page 5, paragraph 1 change
"that do sell" to "in the Village". Page 6, paragraph 3 change "it" to "the
grass".
LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Glover attended the December 20, 1982 Village Board Meeting.
There was a change in plan for the Lexington Glen development from a dry
detention to wet and extension of a shore line.
Commissioner Reid attended the January 3, 1983 Village Board Meeting and had
a copy of the minutes from the December 20, 1982 meeting. She read the
section pertaining to the change in plan for Lexington Glen. The Plan
Commission concurred that this was a major change and should have come back
to the Commission for review.
Commissioner Reid stated that at that meeting the Board approved the 50'
strip along Lake Cook Road. It also voted final acceptance on four lots in
the Buffalo Grove Commerce Center. The developer wanted to know exactly
when a fence has to be put up when commercial abuts residential.
Mr. Raysa stated that in Article XII of the Zoning Ordinance, Section 2.6-7 it
states a fence has to be there, there is no specific time for its installation
He wants this issue covered in the new ordinance and will be discussing it
with staff.
JOHNSON ANNEXATION AGREEMENT
Mr. Truesdell stated this is a fifty-seven (57) acre plot adjacent to the
Soo Line Railroad tracks, the Commerce Center and Lake/Cook Road. Mr. Johnson
is requesting industrial annexation and I zoning. This is consistent with
the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Johnson briefly explained the site and stated they have no developer or
specific land plan at this time. They will come back to the Plan Commission
II' when they do.
Commissioner Davis suggested setting the date for a public hearing on this site.
In response to Commissioner Goldspiel, Mr. Johnson stated there are eight
exception lots. In 1920 the Knights of Columbus came to the area and purchased
large tracts of land which they hoped to sell. They divided the land up into
single family lots, approximately 25' by 125' in size. They are too small
by today's standards to build on. In certain areas of this subdivision lots
were sold to individuals. The lots are recorded. They initially petitioned
to have the total area annexed, the outlots would then be force annexed.
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They have agreed to indemnify the Village if suits result from the eight
exception lot owners.
In response to Commissioner Goldspiel, Mr. Raysa stated Huntley Road is de-
dicated to the County. When it is subdivided it becomes a County road. When
Buffalo Grove annexes it it becomes their road.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked about access to the Commonwealth Edison property
and the eight lots provided.
In response to Commissioner Goldspiel, Mr. Truesdell stated that the strip
between Lake/Cook Road and Linden Avenue, except for the shaded part on the
plan, is the Lake/Cook Road right-of-way.
Mr. Johnson stated there is no gap between the northern right-of-way and
his southern property.
In response to Commissioner Goldspiel, Mr. Johnson replied they will verify
the current ownership of the eight exception lots. The subdivision will be
vacated (regarding the lot lines) when the annexation takes place. There
will be access for the eight outlots.
Mr. Truesdell briefly reviewed his December 15, 1982 memo to Mr. Balling
titled Proposed Industrial Zoning - Johnson and his December 23, 1982 memo
to the Plan Commission titled Johnson Property Annexation and Zoning.
In response to Commissioner Goldspiel, Mr. Kuenkler stated that the existing
detention basin is adequate.
In response to Commissioner Goldspiel, Mr. Truesdell stated that Point 2 in
Mr. Balling's letter is being reviewed by Mr. Raysa.
Chairman Shields asked Mr. Johnson if he had. petitioned the Wheeling Park
District for annexation of the property.
Mr. Johnson briefly revieved the history of the site and explained that they
had signed a. purchase agreement some time ago involving some adjacent land
and promised to petition this piece to be annexed by the Wheeling Park District
within the following two years. He has not yet petitioned the Park District.
Chairman Shields stated that Buffalo Grove Park District requests the subject
property be annexed into the luffalo Grove Park District at the same time as
the Village annexation pursuant to Section 3-10 of the Illinois Park District
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Mr. Johnson stated he has asked his attorneys to look into this and will point
out Section 3-10 of the Illinois Park District Statute to him. If he is bound
by the previous agreement he will petition Wheeling Park District as he does
not want to get involved in litigation between two park districts.
Commissioner Sheldon stated the Commission would like to have the answers
to the questions brought up at this meeting for the public hearing.
In response to Commissioner Goldberg, Mr. Raysa stated the idemnification
would go with the land.
Mr. Truesdell pointed out that there is a natural prairie in the right-of-way
of the Commonwealth Edison property. When the Northwest Water Commission comes
in to install the water main Mr. Johnson will allow them to use his property so
the prairie is not disturbed. Commissioner Goldspiel noted that the prairie
is rare containing endangered species.
After some discussion the date for the public was set for
hearing
February 2, 1982.
Commissioner Goldspiel stated that for the public hearing he would like:
1) Treatment of the access for the exception lots and Commonwealth
Edison right-of-way spelled out.
2) The question of changing of the right-of-way ownership and the
resubdivision resolved.
3) The park district issue resolution.
FUTURE AGENDA
January 19, 1983 the Schwaben Center sidewalk will be up for review. Mr. Truesdell
has done some review of the Comprehensive Plan and would like to present it to
the Plan Commission
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Davis, seconded by Commissioner Glover to adjourn the
meeting. The vote was unanimously favorable. Chairman Shields adjourned the
meeting at 10:05 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
A •PROVED BY:
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Kathleen Comer, Recording Secretary
Patrick Shields, Chairman
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