1986-01-13 - Village Board Committee of the Whole - Minutes SUMMARY OF COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE OF THE PRESIDENT AND BOARD OF TRUSTEES
OF THE VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS, HELD MONDAY, JANUARY 13, 1986,
AT THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING, 50 RAUPP BOULEVARD, BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS.
President Clayton called the meeting to order at 7:34 P.M. Roll call indicated
the following present: President Clayton; Trustees Marienthal, O'Reilly, Glover,
Reid, Shields, and Kowalski. Also present were: William Balling, Village
Manager; William Raysa, Village Attorney; James Doyle, Assistant Village Manager;
William Brimm, Finance Director; James Truesdell, Village Planner; Carmen Molinaro,
Director of Golf Operations; and Paul Kochendorfer, Village Treasurer.
NORTHWEST MUNICIPAL CONFERENCE LEGISLATIVE BREAKFAST
President Clayton reminded the Board of the Legislative Breakfast that the
Northwest Municipal Conference will be holding on Saturday, January 18, 1986
at the Gould Center; she has copies of the Legislative Program adopted by the
Conference at the last meeting, which will be distributed to the Board.
FIORE PROPOSAL
President Clayton stated that, after the Plan Commission unanimously rejected
the Fiore proposal at their meeting, they did follow that vote with a suggestion
for a workshop to try and resolve some of the outstanding issues which have come
up. Plan Commission Chairman Sheldon and President Clayton determined that one
way to handle this would be to have two members of the Plan Commission, two
members of the Board, and staff support from the Village Planner and the Village
Manager meet and look at the issues which have been raised and see if there is
some room for agreement. The items which the Plan Commission would like to have
discussed are the mix; traffic with regard to Buffalo Grove Road and assurance that
it will be completed before this project is built; desire to see a neighborhood
type of park; the school site; reassurances on the engineering with regard to
flooding; they are against the blanket variations; and the possibility of a bike
path and walkway around the golf course. The Plan Commission has been invited to
bring other issues to the attention of the committee if they so desire, and
President Clayton stated that the Board is also welcome to bring issues of concern
before the Committee. President Clayton hopes that the committee will be able
to report back to the Board at the February 3, 1986 meeting.
Trustee O'Reilly stated that she had not seen the latest plan or reports, so it
would be difficult for her to have any input for the committee; she is troubled by
the appearance of the Village Board trying to usurp the authority of the Plan
Commission; she does not believe the Village Board should be telling the Plan
Commission how to do what they should be doing. President Clayton stated that the
Plan Commission noted that it was the decision of the Plan Commission to ask for
Board input. Trustee O'Reilly stated that she believed the Plan Commission asked
for a workshop with the entire Village Board. President Clayton stated that the
committee will report both to the Plan Commission and the Village Board. Trustee
O'Reilly stated that she is deeply troubled by this unusual procedure.
Trustee Glover questioned the thoughts of the Plan Commission on this procedure.
Plan Commission Chairman Sheldon stated that the Plan Commission thinks it would
be beneficial to have the sub-committee to determine whether or not there is
enough support to warrant the time of the entire Board and Plan Commission.
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Trustee Marienthal stated that he has not seen the most current plan, and stated
that, if the sub-committee wants the input of the Board for their meeting, there
must be distribution of the current plan; he also asked whether or not the Plan
Commission plans to reconvene another Public Hearing if changes are made to the
plan. Chairman Sheldon stated that there would probably be another Public Hearing.
President Clayton stated that there will be more than one meeting of the sub-
committee; the first meeting will identify issues to be researched, and meeting
with the school superintendent.
Trustee Reid stated that he thinks the sub-committee is an admirable idea, and
he believes there is a need for a committee to do the fact-finding.
Trustee Kowalski echoed Trustee Marienthal's concern with regard to getting a
copy of the most current plan to the Board.
Trustee Shields supports the formation of the sub-committee, but also believes
that it is a good idea for the Board to have a copy of the current plan.
President Clayton stated that Mr. Balling will get copies of the most current
plan distrubuted to the Board.
OMNI YOUTH SERVICES REPORT
Mr. Dennis Depcik, Associate Director of Omni Youth Services, provided the
Board with a progress report from July through December of 1985; he explained
the reasons that the name was changed from Omni-House to Omni Youth Services.
Mr. Depcik introduced Mr. Jay Meyer who reviewed the report which Mr. Depcik
had passed out. There were no questions from the Board on the report.
ANDREWS PROPERTY (Pulte)
Mr. Dan Star, President of the Illinois Division of Pulte Homes, introduced Mr.
Tim Herandez, Division Planner of Pulte Homes, and Mr. Tom Stankey, Vice President
of Sales and Marketing for Pulte Homes.
Mr. Star provided the Board with a background of Pulte Homes; he also noted some
of the changes which they have made to the plan.
Mr. Hernandez reviewed the changes which were made to the plan, which resulted
from the comments made by the Board and the staff; the major change in the product
is in the size of the units; the average width of the units will be 34' ; all units
will have 2-car garages as a standard feature; they believe the units are unique
to the Buffalo Grove area; they believe the units are significantly larger in
terms of square footage than anything which has been offered in the Buffalo Grove
area to date; the number of units has been reduced from 404 to 271, a reduction of
133 units or 32%, which is approximately 4.5 dwelling units per acre; the reason
that they came in with so many units on the original plan was because of Buffalo
Grove Road; the total shoreline of the lakes is in excess of one mile; they have
included a pathway system which they believe to be very effective; the townhouse
units have been set back 100' from the east property line; they are asking for
two variations, i.e. sidewalks on one side of the street, with the pedestrian
path system, and reduced right-of-way on the cul-de-sacs.
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Mr. Stankey stated that their target market will be empty-nesters who wish to
move out of a larger home and into a maintenance-free situation, and also the
young professionals; the units will be 30' to 40' wide, between 1,200 and 2,000
square feet in size; the prices would range from $100,000+ and go up to $120,000+
depending upon the extras the buyer would want to add; there will be an entry
monument, lush landscaping and berming, providing a sense of security and privacy;
there will be three different styles of units; there will be formal living and
dining rooms, luxury master baths, security systems, full appliance packages,
central air conditioning, skylights, etc. offered; there will be liberal use of
brick on the elevations. They are trying to create an atmosphere in which people
will be very proud to live. Mr. Stankey distributed some very preliminary
elevations from their other developments.
There was then lengthy discussion regarding this development by the Board, with
the developer and the staff answering questions of the Board. After this discussion,
President Clayton asked each Trustee for their comments on the project:
TRUSTEE MARIENTHAL: Would prefer single-family; if it is going to be multi-family,
he would want it to be a large unit, with a 2-car garage, and minimum size
in the area of 1,600 square feet.
TRUSTEE O'REILLY: Prefers single-family, but realistically believes the developer
\w/ will have to come back with an attached; she would like to see the upper
end of everything from bulding materials to amenities; she is concerned
about the developer's concept of seclusion, and how this development will
ever become a part of the community; she would like to know more about the
lakes; she would like to see more information on a future plan showing
diversity in the units so that there is not a barracks look.
TRUSTEE GLOVER: Prefers single-family, and would only consider multi-family if
such problems as the 40' rear yard setback along Buffalo Grove Road, lack
of recreational amenities, building mass and barracks look, and the product
were resolved.
TRUSTEE REID: Prefers single-family; does not believe there should be a great
push to get something done on this parcel since the Master Plan is under
consideration; if it is going to be multi-family, he would be concerned
about the monotony.
TRUSTEE SHIELDS: Would like single-fmaily, although it does not seem practical;.
could accept multi-family with larger units and smaller groupings.
TRUSTEE KOWALSKI: Prefers single-family, but would not rule out multi-family, as
long as it was done exceptionally well with regard to product design and
product layout, with no more than four units per building, high quality
building materials, and amenities that go with upper income buyers; she
is concerned with the lack of recreational amenities.
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Trustee Marienthal asked the developer to explore the possibility of combining
the lake in this development with the lake in Hidden Lake. Mr. Hernandez stated
that that possibility had occurred to him.
President Clayton noted that Items C and E on the agenda would be reversed for
the benefit of the members of the audience.
RECESS
President Clayton declared a recess from 9:26 P.M. to 9:37 P.M.
JACKSON DRIVE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS
Mr. Balling reviewed the situation, referring to Mr. Boysen's memo to him of
January 9, 1986 regarding the University Court Drainage Problem. President
Clayton stated that this proposal is very encouraging.
Mr. Balling reviewed the cause of this problem for Trustee Glover.
Trustee Reid stated that he believes that the Village should go ahead and try
to resolve this problem.
In answer to a question from Trustee Marienthal, Mr. Balling stated that the
Village's chances of recouping any funds are not very good.
With regard to Wheeling participation, Mr. Balling stated that this would not
have any benefit to them; the benefit is to Buffalo Grove residents. President
Clayton stated that she believes the question should be posed to Wheeling.
President Clayton polled the Board: "Yes" indicates favor of suggestion from
the staff to pursue the Tarkington School easement and ditch concept; "No"
indicates opposition:
YES: Marienthal, O'Reilly, Glover, Reid, Shields, Kowalski
NO: None
FIORE PROPOSAL - GOLF COURSE FINANCING STRATEGY
Mr. Balling reviewed the background regarding the possible golf course on the
Fiore Property. Mr. Brimm then reviewed his memo to Mr. Balling of January 6,
1986 on this subject. Mr. Molinaro commented on the current useage of the present
course and the feasibility of the proposed course, noting the positive indications
he has which would insure success of the proposed course.
Mr. Gordon McDanold and Donna Molloy of Continental Bank were present to discuss
the ways this project might be finances; Mr. McDanold then made a financing
presentation to the Board, details of which are contained in a packet which he
distributed to the Board.
Mr. McDanold, Greg Sundberg, and Thomas Sather then answered questions from the
`1 Board on the various types of possible financing.
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After discussion by the Board, Mr. Balling stated that staff would like to know
if there is concurrence with the financing concept so that they can begin to pin
down some of the aspects of this financing.
President Clayton polled the Board: "Yes" indicates favor of the financing concept
presented tonight; "No" indicates opposition:
YES: Marienthal, O'Reilly*, Glover, Reid, Shields, Kowalski
NO: None
*Conceptually "Yes", however, she will never vote for it.
POLICY FOR DEALING WITH REQUESTS FROM CHARITABLE ORGANIZATIONS
Mr. Balling reviewed his memo to the Board on the subject of January 9, 1986.
Trustee Marienthal stated that he would have preferred to have left the policy
as it was, which was to fund Omni Youth Services because of the contractual
services which they provide to the Buffalo Grove Police Department; he does not
wish to get involved with funding for any other agency using public funds.
There were no other comments from the Board; President Clayton stated that she
assumed that the absence of comments from the Board meant that the absence of
comments from the Board meant that the Board prefers to stay with the present
policy.
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Glover, seconded by O'Reilly, to adjourn the meeting. Upon voice vote,
the motion was unaimously declared carried. The meeting was adjourned at 11:15 P.M.
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