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1980-07-28 - Village Board Committee of the Whole - Minutes SUMMARY OF COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE OF THE PRESIDENT AND BOARD OF TRUSTEES OF THE VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS, HELD MONDAY, JULY 28, 1980, AT THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING, 50 RAUPP BOULEVARD, BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS. President Clayton called the meeting to order at 7:35 P.M. Roll call indicated the following present: President Clayton; Trustees Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein, Kavitt, Gerschefske. Also present were William Balling, Village Manager; William Raysa, Village Attorney; William Sommer, Assistant Village Manager; William Brimm, Finance Director; Gregory Boysen, Director of Public Works; Richard Kuenkler, Village Engineer; James Truesdell , Village Planner. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING - CITRUST/HILLTOWN PROPERTIES President Clayton called the Public Hearing to order at 7:37 P.M. She stated that this Public Hearing had been continued from July 14, 1980. Mr. Balling then read a letter addressed to him from James Mikes dated July 23, 1980: "This letter will confirm that my clients , Citrust Properties, Inc. and Hilltown Associates, Inc. , intend to continue to actively seek annexation to'Buffalo Grove and zoning of their respective properties. I have every expectation that our efforts will result in the annexation of the properties within the next several months." The Village Manager from Vernon Hills was present to present the policy which was established by the Vernon Hills Board on July 8, 1980 with respect to annexations. President Clayton then read this written statement. Moved by Marienthal , seconded by O'Reilly, to continue the Citrust/Hilltown Properties Public Hearing until August 25, 1980. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as follows: AYES: 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein, Kavitt, Gerschefske NAYES: 0 - None Motion declared carried. The Public Hearing was continued until August 25, 1980 at 7:45 P.M. PRE-APPLICATION DISCUSSION - Commercial Facility on the Lake-Cook Corridor Mr. Sommer explained that the Village is in the position of having three possible sites for commercial use on Lake-Cook Road. He referred to his memo to the Board of July 24, 1980, and also to the Official Map, explaining staff's position on this issue. Discussion then followed on same, as well as the concept of the Town Center. The primary item of discussion regarding the Town Center was whether or not a food/drug operation should be a part of the Town Center. Mr. Ted Henderson gave a brief presentation of what could be done with the property on Lake-Cook Road and Route 83, and then introduced Mr. Devine, Vice President of Arthur Rubloff, who described what they envision as a convenience shopping center on this property. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE JULY 28, 1980 PAGE TWO Mr. Michael Gitlitz then briefly described what his group would plan for the Town Center property. Mr. Jerry Brim gave a brief presentation regarding the property at Arlington Heights and Lake-Cook Roads. President Clayton asked each Trustee if they felt they were in a position to discuss the three sites with regard to land use. Trustee Gerschefske stated he feels there is enough information available to discuss the basics; Trustees Stone and O'Reilly stated they would be in a position to discuss the sites; Trustee Marienthal stated that he felt he could discuss the sites to a certain extent; Trustees Hartstein and Kavitt said they would have no problem discussing the sites at this time. Trustee Gerschefske feels that the property at LAKE-COOK AND ARLINGTON HEIGHTS ROADS should be highly residential ; that the property in the TOWN CENTER should be a mixture of office, residential , and commercial ; and that the property at LAKE-COOK AND ROUTE 83 should be residential . Trustee Stone feels that the property at LAKE-COOK AND ARLINGTON HEIGHTS ROADS is too close to the Buffalo Grove Mall , and he cannot see any real benefit to having a shopping center there, but he would not rule out commercial if it were the right type; that the Village is going about development of the TOWN CENTER backwards by using the food-drug operation as the corner stone; and at this point he has no objection to the type of development being discussed on the northeast corner of LAKE-COOK AND ROUTE 83. Trustee O'Reilly feels that office/research is better than commercial at the LAKE-COOK AND ARLINGTON HEIGHTS ROADS site; that the TOWN CENTER needs some- thing to get it off the ground, and could possibly envision a food/drug operation if it is done well ; is not opposed to the food/drug operation at the corner of LAKE-COOK ROAD AND ROUTE 83, but is concerned that the parcel is not large enough to be built upon with other commercial establishments. Trustee Marienthal stated that he feels that the Village Board is talking without knowing all of the facts. He would not be opposed to a combination use for the property at LAKE-COOK AND ARLINGTON HEIGHTS ROADS, with a food/drug operation possibly included; he would want to take a closer look at the location of the proposed food/drug operation in the TOWN CENTER; the major concern for the location at LAKE-COOK AND ROUTE 83 would be the traffic planning because of the Ambulatory Care Center directly across the street. Of the three proposed sites, he would be more favorable to the first two rather than the third unless he receives information to the contrary. Trustee Hartstein favors the combination of office/research tied in with compatible residential for the property at LAKE-COOK AND ARLINGTON HEIGHTS ROADS, with a restaurant having top priority, and possibly a theater/restaurant; regarding the TOWN CENTER, he feels that a food/drug combination located and done in such a way as to help stimulate development of the area is possible; feels that the parcel at LAKE-COOK AND ROUTE 83 and the TOWN CENTER space would be the most preferable for the food/drug concept. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE JULY 28, 1980 PAGE THREE Trustee Kavitt feels that the property at LAKE-COOK AND ARLINGTON HEIGHTS ROADS should be a small commercial development, possibly along the lines of a theater/ restaurant and office complex; he feels that the TOWN CENTER needs a "shot in the arm" and would not be opposed to any plan which was done well ; and he has no objection to the use of a food/drug concept at the corner of LAKE-COOK AND ROUTE 83, but limited to that use. President Clayton summarized that the Board does not wish to see the commercial expanded on LAKE-COOK AND ARLINGTON HEIGHTS ROADS: some Trustees are leaning towards residential , and others lean towards office/research; it appears that the only commercial considered on that site would be the restaurant/theater type. She stated that it appears that the Board would need more information before making a decision on the other two sites. Regarding the parcel at LAKE-COOK AND ROUTE 83, she stated that it appears that the majority of the Board has no problem with that type of commercial , but feels that it should be more of a planned development with a larger scale. Mr. Saltzman stated that, in order to make additional presentations to the. Village, he would need additional time on the termination date of the agree- ment which he has with the Village. President Clayton stated that it would have to be put on a later agenda so that there could be staff input available. Mr. Balling explained the agreement referred to by Mr. Saltzman. RECESS President Clayton declared a recess from 9:30 until 9:55 P.M. LAKE MICHIGAN WATER TRANSMISSION SYSTEM Mr. Balling brought the Board up to date on the proceedings of this matter. Mr. Balling then stated that it is still the recommendation of staff that Lake Michigan water be pursued by Buffalo Grove through Venture, based on the fact that there is no indication that there is a more economical source for Lake Michigan water. He explained this recommendation in detail . Lengthy dis- cussion followed, and Mr. Balling answered questions from the Board. At the end of this discussion, President Clayton polled the Board: "Yes" indicates favor of opting into Venture, keeping all avenues open with DMAP based on new information that would be coming to us; that we send letters to Palatine and Arlington Heights encouraging them to stay in the Venture and encouraging Wheeling to join Venture because of the cost effectiveness; and that we indicate at the August 7, 1980 Venture meeting that the Board has directed President Clayton to vote in favor of looking into the possibility and the cost of a dual system; "No" indicates opposition: YES: Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein, Kavitt, Gerschefske NO: None STRATHMORE SHOPPING CENTER Mr. Balling informed the Board that the Christ Church in Long Grove has requested to use the parking lot of Uptown Federal Savings for outdoor religious movies each Sunday evening during the month of August. The Board discussed whether or not this request should be approved. COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE JULY 28, 1980 PAGE FOUR President Clayton polled the Board: "Yes" indicates favor of permitting the outdoor movies at the Strathmore Shopping Center; "No" indicates opposition: YES: None NO: Marienthal , O'Reilly, Hartstein, Kavitt, Gerschefske ABSTAIN: Stone President Clayton again polled the Board: "Yes" indicates favor of offering any outside facilities belonging to the Village for a nominal fee, staff determining where those facilities would be; "No" indicates opposition: YES: Marienthal , Gerschefske NO: O'Reilly, Hartstein, Kavitt ABSTAIN: Stone It was suggested that they look for another outside facility that would be further away from the road so as not to cause a traffic conflict. ADJOURNMENT Moved by Hartstein, seconded by Marienthal , to adjourn to Executive Session to discuss litigation. Upon voice vote, the motion was unanimously declared carried. The meeting adjourned to Executive Session at 10:50 P.M. The Executive Session was adjourned at 11 :20 P.M. Janet h4. Sirabian, Village Clerk