1981-11-23 - Village Board Committee of the Whole - Minutes v
SUMMARY OF COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE OF THE PRESIDENT AND BOARD OF TRUSTEES
OF THE VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS, HELD MONDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 1981 ,
AT THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING, 50 RAUPP BOULEVARD, BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS.
President Pro Tem Marienthal called the meeting to order at 7:27 P.M. Those
present were Trustees Marienthal , Stone, O'REilly, Gerschefske, and Schwartz.
President Clayton and Trustee Hartstein were absent. Also present were:
William Balling, Village Manager; James Doyle, Assistant Village Manager;
William Raysa, Village Attorney; William Brimm, Finance Director; Frank
Hruby, Director of Building and Zoning; Gregory Boysen, Director of Public Works;
James Truesdell , Village Planner; Ingrid Park, Staff Planner; and Paul
Kochendorfer, Village Treasurer.
REVISION TO BUFFALO GROVE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
President Pro Tem Marienthal noted Mr. Balling's memo to the Board dated
November 19, 1981 , containing information requested by the Board at the
October12, 1981 Board meeting. Mr. Truesdell noted that the memo from
Ingrid Park dated October 9, 1981 will be worded into the final draft of the
document. Mr. Truesdell then displayed an overlay to the Buffalo Grove
Comprehensive Plan showing the Comprehensive Plans of surrounding communities.
He pointed out that the Arlington Country Club is shown on the Wheeling
Comprehensive Plan as a Golf Course. Mr. Balling pointed out that the
displays were excellent and should become a permanent part of the Plan
Commission files.
Mr. Truesdell then generally discussed the three parcels which were discussed
at the last Workshop, i .e. the Route 83/Busch Road/Buffalo Grove Road extended
triangle; the Schwind Farm at Lake-Cook and Weiland Roads; and the Siefert
property located just to the north of the Checker Road/Buffalo Grove Road
intersection. The question on the triangular piece of property was whether
it should be totally open space, remain as currently shown on the plan at
approximately 1/2 developed and 1/2 open space, or some compromise of the two.
The question on the Schwind Farm was whether it should be included in the Plan,
and, if so, what the land use should be. The Siefert parcel was whether it
should remain as multi-family as shown on the Plan, or as commercial . The
staff recommendation is that the triangular parcel should be shown as totally
open space for two reasons: the environmental sensitivity of the site, the
established need for a large community park, and the Park District's desire
to see this site as open space.
The Schwind Farm parcel is recommended not to be in the plan , mainly because it
would require a lift station for service, and the policy is basically not to
build a lift station for such a small parcel . If the Board did decide to
include this in the Plan, the recommendation would be for multi-family.
The Siefert parcel is recommended to remain as multi-family, in order to
reinforce the marketability of the Town Center concept and based on the fiscal
analysis , the difference between multi-family and commercial is very slight.
Mr. Truesdell then discussed the factors for the fiscal impact on School
District 96. Mr. Truesdell stated that they had meetings with the Buffalo
Grove Senior Citizens , and the Buffalo Grove Chamber of Commerce. They also
held two public meetings, however, no one attended those two meetings.
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Mr. Truesdell stated that they also met with the Park District, and there
were no concerns which negatively affected the Plan. The Park District did
show support for the park concept. Ingrid Park then displayed a drawing of
the triangular parcel proposed as park and open space, and explained the
possible utilization of the parcel . This would probably be an undertaking
of the Park District, and not the Village.
President Pro Tem Marienthal stated that he thinks that there could be a
section set aside in the parcel for private recreation, which would require
a change in the zoning to allow for that use only. Mr. Balling stated that
it is possible that the entire cost component for the parcel could possibly
be under $2,000,000. Mr. Truesdell stated that the alternative proposal for
the site would be either cluster single-family or cluster multi-family.
President Pro Tem polled the Board: "Yes" indicates favor of retaining the
entire 85 acres as a public open space; "No" indicates opposition: Mr. Truesdell
stated that there is no harm in showing the entire 85 acres as open space on
the Plan, however, the Plan should also be realistic.
YES: Stone, O' Reilly, Gerschefske, Schwartz
NO: Marienthal
ABSENT: Hartstein
President Pro Tem Marienthal asked if the Board was interested in creating a
zoning classification for private recreation for this parcel . There was no
objection from the Board to investigating this concept.
Mr. Truesdell stated that staff recommendation is not to include the Schwind
Farm on the Plan, because of the difficulty in servicing the area, i .e. the
addition of a lift station. President Pro Tem Marienthal stated that he thinks
that this parcel should be included in the Plan.
After further discussion , President Pro Tem Marienthal polled the Board: "Yes"
indicates favor of including the Schwind Farm in the Master Plan as multi-
family; "No" indicates opposition:
YES : Marienthal , O'Reilly, Gerschefske
NO: Stone, Schwartz
ABSENT: Hartstein
There was then discussion on the Siefert parcel , which was recommended as
multi -family in the Greater Town Center Neighborhood study. Mr. Truesdell
stated that the fiscal impact on District 96 is not much different for multi-
family than for commercial . Trustee O'Reilly stated that she thinks there
is more of a possibility to change from commercial to residential , rather than
changing from residential to commercial . The concern is that once it is
designated as residential , the density could be lowered from high density
multi-family, thereby creating a more negative impact on District 96. She
stated that this is the only piece of commercial property that District 96
�./ will have. Mrs. O'Reilly is opposed to this parcel being classified as
residential .
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Trustee Gerschefske stated that he feels this parcel should be classified
as residential . Further discussion followed regarding the designation of
this parcel as residential or commercial . President Pro Tem Marienthal stated
that he agrees with Trustee O'Reilly, and does not see the need to change this
parcel from commercial to residential at this point.
President Pro Tem Marienthal polled the Board: "Yes" indicates favor of the
zoning classification that staff and the Plan Commission has placed on this
particular parcel , that being multi-family with the least amount of density
of 12 units/acre; "No" indicates opposition :
YES: Stone, Gerschefske, Schwartz
NO: Marienthal , O'Reilly
ABSENT: Hartstein
President Pro Tem Marienthal polled the Board: "Yes" indicates favor of
additional meetings to inform the public and organizations of the Comprehensive
Plan; "No" indicates no further meetings are necessary:
YES : O'Reilly
NO: Marienthal , Stone, Gerschefske, Schwartz
ABSENT: Hartstein
Mr. Balling commented on the future land requirements for the Buffalo Grove
municipal needs. He stated that it is felt that not more than 1/2 acres will
be required to accommodate existing needs , with some new construction with
respect to administrative space. If the Village goes into a major recreational
component, it would require between 2 and 5 acres, and it is recommended to go
for that 2 to 5 acres on the eastern side of the golf course. The Board will
have a final look at the facilities plan and long-range financial plan, and
Mr. Balling reminded the Board that the Village is required by law to review
the Zoning Ordinance and Official Map every year. Mr. Balling stated that
staff feels comfortable going to print with not more than 1/2 acre shown
on the Master Plan, unless the Board wants to get into the broader recreational
area. There was no objection from the Board as to showing the 1/2 acre on the
Master Plan.
President Pro Tem Marienthal requested that the Village Manager and the Village
Attorney put together all thoughts discussed this evening, and put it into
final form so that it can be presented at a Regular Board Meeting for passage
and approval .
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Stone, seconded by Gerschefske, to adjourn the meeting. Upon voice
vote, the motion was unanimously declared carried. The meeting was adjourned
at 10:19 P.M.
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Janet W: Sirabian , Village Clerk