1978-12-11 - Village Board Committee of the Whole - Minutes .
SUMMARY OF COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE OF THE PRESIDENT AND BOARD OF TRUSTEES
OF THE VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS, HELD MONDAY, DECEMBER 11 , 1978,
AT THE MUNICIPAL BUILDING, 50 RAUPP BOULEVARD, BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS.
The meeting was called to order by Village President Edward A. Fabish at
7:35 P.M. Those present were President Fabish, Trustees Rech, Bogart,
Marienthal , Stone, Mendenhall , Kandel . Also present were William Balling,
Village Manager; William Raysa, Village Attorney; Thomas. Fennell , Building
Commissioner; and Corporal Gary Del Re of the Crime Prevention Bureau of
the Police Department.
ANTI-BURGLARY SECURITY CODE
The Board reviewed a draft of an Anti-Burglary Security Code which had
been proposed by the Crime Prevention Bureau of the Police Department.
Said code was proposed to safeguard property and public welfare by
establishing minimum standards of physical security (such as certain locks
and burglar resistant glazing material on windows) for all new residential
• dwellings.
Mr. Fennell reviewed his memo, dated November 22, 1978, regarding the
relationship to the proposed ordinance to existing building codes and fire
safety procedures. Plan Commissioner Barbara Sheldon reviewed the Plan
Commission report, dated December 6, 1978, recommending enactment of the
proposed ordinance. Corporal Del Re reviewed the need for the ordinance.
During the discussion, the following changes were made:
1 . Any reference to a double cylinder locking device was changed to
single cylinder.
2. Operation of deadbolt lock was changed from key cylinder to single
cylinder.
3. For sliding patio doors, requirement of "Charlie Bar" was changed
to slide bolt.
4. Reference to louvered windows not being permitted on accessible
windows was deleted.
Also, during the discussion, the following points were made:
1 . Cost of locks and installation of same would be between $125 and $150.
2. Ordinance would effect construction of buildings receiving building
permits after the effective date of the ordinance.
The Board asked that the ordinance be put in final form in accordance with
the discussion this evening, and that it be placed on the January 8, 1979,
agenda for Board consideration.
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ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT RE PARKING
President Fabish asked the Board if they would reconsider adopting an
amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to regulate parking of RVs and commercial
vehicles in a residential neighborhood, and instead live with the present
ordinance and handle parking problems on a complaint basis. He then polled
the Board, "Yes" indicating favor of his suggestion and "No" indicating
opposition. The poll found the following:
YES: 1 - Bogart
NO: 5 - Rech, Marienthal , Stone, Mendenhall , Kandel
Lengthy discussion took place during which 1) the Deerfield and Skokie
ordinances were reviewed, 2) possibility of ordinance not affecting presently
owned RVs, and 3) legality of the proposed ordinance.
President Fabish polled the Board to determine their thoughts with regard
to the Deerfield Ordinance. The poll found the following:
RECH: Favor Deerfield Ordinance with modification to regulate length of
vehicle.
BOGART: Favor Deerfield Ordinance as is.
MARIENTHAL: Favor Deerfield Ordinance with modification to regulate
length of RV. Still have to address commercial vehicles.
STONE, MENDENHALL, KANDEL: Favor Deerfield Ordinance with modification
to regulate length of RV and to require set back from sidewalk.
President Fabish polled the Board to determine the length of RV that would
be permitted. The poll found the following:
28' - 4 - Rech, Stone, Mendenhall , Kandel
42' - 1 - Bogart
30' - 1 - Marienthal
It was noted that this length would not include the tongue, but that the
tongue would not be permitted to encroach on the sidewalk.
President Fabish polled the Board to determine the distance that would be
required between the inside edge of the sidewalk and the RV. The poll found
the following:
2 ' - 2 - Rech, Kandel
1 ' - 3 - Marienthal , Stone, Mendenhall
1../ ABSTAIN - 1 - Bogart
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Discussion now turned to commercial vehicles. Section 3.8-2 of the proposed
draft ordinance permitted one commercial vehicle up to the following size:
length - 18' , width - 8' , and height - 7' . Evidence was presented that
showed that a Ford mini-dump truck would meet those requirements. Lengthy
discussion followed regarding the possibility of permitting that type of truck
only if it is owned by the owner of the property on which it is parked,
and the possibility of creating two classifications of trucks and permitting
parking of only one of the classifications.
President Fabish polled the Board, "Yes" indicating favor of Section 3.8-2
as drafted, and "No" indicating opposition. The poll found the following:
YES: 4 - Rech, Marienthal , Stone, Kandel
NO: 2 - Bogart, Mendenhall
Ordinance is to be drafted in accordance with discussion this evening and
will be placed on the January 8, 1979, agenda for referral to the Plan
Commission for public hearing.
9:40 P.M. - The President declared a recess.
10:00 P.M. - The meeting resumed.
CONDOMINIUM CONTROL ORDINANCE
Mr. Fennell reviewed the draft of a proposed Condominium Control Ordinance
modeled after the one adopted by the Village of Skokie. The ordinance
required 1) developer to reveal information concerning who is involved in
the condominium, explanation of legal documents and their ramifications,
construction schedule, condition of the physical plant and cost to bring it
up to usable condition, 2) developer must appear before the Village Board
to request any code modifications associated with a conversion, 3) notifica-
tion to existing tenants, and 4) rentalarrangement whereby the purchaser is
protected should the project not be completed on schedule and that some of
the rental payment be applied to final purchase price.
Mr. Raysa said there is question if a non-home rule community has the power
to enact such an ordinance. He also questioned if the Board wanted to get
involved with requiring property reports, escrow, and warranties which could
be considered writing contracts for prospective purchasers. He noted that
this ordinance applies to all condominium conversions whether it be 1 unit
or 200. He was also concerned about the penalty provision and how effective
it would be.
President Fabish polled the Board, "Yes" indicating favor of pursuing an
ordinance to control new condominiums, and "No" indicating opposition. The
poll found the following:
�••� YES: 0 - None
NO: 6 - Rech, Bogart, Marienthal , Stone, Mendenhall , Kandel
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President Fabish polled the Board, "Yes" indicating favor of pursuing an
ordinance to control condominium conversions, and "No" indicating opposition.
The poll found the following:
YES: 5 - Rech, Bogart, Marienthal , Stone, Kandel
NO: 1 - Mendenhall
Trustee Rech suggested that the ordinance be honed down to be concerned with
health, safety, and welfare. She felt the current codes have to be met, and
if they are not, there would have to be some type of appeal .
Trustee Bogart felt the ordinance should cover the building only. He felt
the consumer portion should be de-emphasized.
Trustee Kandel felt there should be some consumer protection on the economic
aspects such as warranties and escrow.
Staff will redraft the ordinance in accordance with the discussion this
evening, and then submit it to the sub-committee of the Chicago Bar Association
for their comments and evaluation.
Trustee Rech asked the staff to contact the owner of the property that
presently is being converted to condominiums and ask if he would agree to
wait until the Village has this ordinance on the books. Mr. Balling stated
that he would contact him, but he anticipated the owner to be reluctant.
AMENDMENT TQ SIGN CODE RE PYLON SIGNS
Mr. Fennell stated that the Village Board had requested the. Select Committee
to review certain modifications to the Sign Code as suggested by Ken Rodeck
of Gregg Builders and his representative, Ed Larson. He said on November 21 ,
the Committee met and their decision was 1) all items had been considered at
length, 2) machinery for variations had been included in the code, and 3)
the Sign Code should stand as written. (Minutes of the committee meeting
are on file.)
Ed Larson argued that the Code, in its present form, infringes upon a property
owner's right to advertise, that the distance required between signs is
arbitrary, and that many codes are being declared illegal because they are
based on aesthetics. Lengthy discussion followed.
In response to a question from Trustee Rech, Mr. Raysa said the Code is
legally defensible.
President Fabish polled the Board,"Yes" indicating favor of the committee
report, and "No" indicating opposition. The poll found the following:
YES: 5 - Rech, Bogart, Marienthal , Stone, Kandel
NO: 0 - None
PASS: 1 - Mendenhall
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SIDEWALKS/SNOW REMOVAL
Trustee Marienthal asked the news reporters to print a story requesting
people to shovel snow from their sidewalks this winter so that children can
walk to school safely.
ZBA VARIATION
Trustee Rech questioned a recent ZBA decision to grant a variance to permit
a second driveway for a home on Burnt Ember. It was explained that the
variance was granted for reasons of hardship. The homeowner had constructed
a two-story garage, meeting all requirements of the zoning ordinance, but in
order to get to that garage, a second curb-cut and driveway had to be installed.
Need of the second driveway was not known at the time the building permit was
issued because the plan submitted did not indicate the first driveway.
MUNICIPAL LIBRARY
Trustee Marienthal suggested that staff investigate the legality of forming
a municipal library for the Village. If it is found to be feasible, he felt
a committee could be formed to move ahead with the matter.
After discussion, President Fabish polled the Board, "Yes" indicating favor
of reviewing the legality of forming a municipal library, and "No" indicating
opposition. The poll found the following:
YES: 6 - Rech, Bogart, Marienthal , Stone, Mendenhall , Kandel
NO: 0 - None
President Fabish opposed this matter because of funding.
TERREMERE SUBDIVISION IN ARLINGTON HEIGHTS.
Trustee Rech noted that in the Terremere Subdivision in Arlington Heights
(northwest of Nichols and Arlington Heights Roads) , it is permitted to build
homes nearer the creek than it is in Buffalo Grove. She was concerned with
the drainage from this subdivision, and requested the Village Engineer to
obtain their design criteria, review it, and report to the Board.
Trustee Marienthal noted that their retention lake is being counted as part
of their 10% park land donation.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting adjourned at 12: 10 A.M.