1981-09-14 - Village Board Special Meeting - Minutes 5910
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MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
VILLAGE BOARD OF THE VILLAGE OF BUFFALO
GROVE, ILLINOIS, HELD IN THE COUNCIL
CHAMBERS, VILLAGE HALL, SEPTEMBER 14, 1981 .
President Clayton called the meeting to order at 7:36 P.M. CALL TO ORDER
l , Those present stood and pledged allegiance to the Flag.
Roll call indicated the following present: President Clayton ; ROLL CALL
Trustees Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein, Gerschefske,
and Schwartz. Also present were: William Balling , Village
Manager; James Doyle, Assistant Village Manager; William Brimm,
Finance Director; Richard Kuenkler, Village Engineer; Raymond
Rigsby, Superintendent of Public Works ; Carmen Molinaro,
Director of Golf Operations ; Deputy Police Chief Arthur Voigt;
and Paul Kochendorfer, Village Treasurer. Richard Raysa
arrived at 8:00 P.M. ; and William Raysa, Village Attorney,
arrived at 8:50 P.M.
Moved by O'Reilly, seconded by Hartstein , to approve the minutes APPROVAL OF
of the August 31 , 1981 Special Meeting. Upon roll call , MINUTES
Trustees voted as follows:
AYES : 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein, Gerschefske,
Schwartz
NAYES : 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Mr. Kochendorfer read Warrant #462. Moved by Marienthal , WARRANT #462
seconded by O' Reilly, to approve Warrant #462 in the amount
of $305,730.41 , authorizing payment of bills listed. Upon
roll call , Trustees voted as follows :
AYES : 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Gerschefske,
Schwartz
NAYES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Trustee Stone reported that on Tuesday, September 8, 1981 , BUFFALO GROVE
a Public Hearing was held as part of the requirement for ROAD PUBLIC
the improvement of Buffalo Grove Road between Lake-Cook HEARING
Road and Route 83. There were 10-12 people in attendance,
most of whom were property owners whose homes are directly
affected by the route. There were no objections to the
route itself. There should be a final recommendation from
IDOT within the next week.
�•/ Trustee Schwartz stated that the Chamber of Commerce had CITY OF CHICAGO
discussed the City of Chicago Sales and Service tax. The SALES & SERVICE
Chamber passed a motion asking the Board of Trustees to pass TAX
a resolution stating their opposition to this tax, but not to
take any further action. President Clayton asked the Board
members if there was any objection to having the resolution
prepared for the next agenda. There were no objections .
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Trustee O'Reilly reported that the Youth Commission does YOUTH CENTER
now have the Youth Center open on Sunday nights for teens .
The Youth Commission is going to actively recruit teens to
come to the Center on Sunday evenings.
Trustee Hartstein reported that the Transportation Commission TRANSPORTATION
is reviewing the proposal from the NWMC for resolution of the COMMISSION
transportation crises and the various plans for reorganization
of the RTA. The initial reaction of the Transportation Commission
was opposition to some of the aspects of the proposal , particularly
incompatibility of transportation needs of all of the suburban
areas within Cook County; consequently, the Transportation
Commission is formulating other ideas to be incoporated into
the proposal . President Clayton pointed out that the proposal
has not been acted upon or fully discussed at a Northwest Municipal
Conference Meeting.
Trustee Gerschefske reported that Buffalo Grove Days was very BUFFALO GROVE
successful , and that there was more participation by all DAYS
organizations. Mr. Gerschefske thanked all the organizations
that participated , as well as all the individuals who helped to
make the week-end a success . A wrap-up meeting of the committee
will be held on Wednesday, September 16, 1981 at 8:00 P.M.
President Clayton expressed the Board 's thanks to Trustee
Gerschefske, Mr. Brimm, and the entire Committee for their
work in putting together an excellent week-end.
Trustee Gerschefske reported that there was a special meeting FINANCE
of the Finance Committee this evening, and the main topic of COMMITTEE
discussion was the apportionment of taxes between Lake and
Cook Counties. The Committee is going to try to have the
Department of Local Government Affairs come up with a formula
to apportion both counties at equal rates . The Committee
would like to have this item put on an agenda, and have the
Village make this request to the Department of Local Government
Affairs . The difference between this request, and the last
similar request made, is that this request will be asking for
refinement of Village data only.
Former Village President Ed Fabish commented on the Cook County
tax bill he received, and the quadrennial reassessment in Cook
County.
Trustee Hartstein asked Mr. Brimm to look into a way that both
counties could pay the same rate on all taxes , not just the Village
portion. Mr. Brimm commented on the methods of taxation used
by each county.
Mr. Balling reported that he had directed a staff member to SCHOOL DISTRICT
attend a Workshop Meeting at School District #21 , to review #21
basic planning goals for space allocation for closed school
buildings . The purpose of the Village's participation in
that meeting was to integrate any information which we could
receive into our efforts on long-range space planning and
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financial planning. Mr. Balling apologized for the fact that
Board members were not informed of this meeting. A report of
this meeting was distributed to Board members.
Mr. Balling reported that he attended the Lake County CATS CATS MEETING
Council of Mayors meeting on September 9, 1981 . The Mundelein
Road project was discussed at this meeting; the matter was
referred to committee. There is a special meeting of CATS
tentatively scheduled for October 21 , 1981 . The project is
proceeding and there is cautious optimism that it will be
successful .
Mr. Balling then introduced and welcomed Mr. Jim Doyle, ASSISTANT
Assistant Village Manager, to the Village. VILLAGE MANAGER
Mr. Kuenkler brought the Board up to date on the Green Knolls GREEN KNOLLS
(Ronnie/Caren Drives) drainage problem. The contractor will DRAINAGE
start work within a week, with completion within two weeks ,
and this should alleviate the drainage problem in this area.
Mr. Kuenkler itemized the work which is to be done.
President Clayton asked if there were any questions from the QUESTIONS FROM
audience. There were none. THE AUDIENCE
President Clayton explained the Consent Agenda, and stated CONSENT AGENDA
that any member of the audience or the Board could request
that an item be removed for full discussion. It was requested
that Item XII , B be removed from Consent.
Moved by Marienthal , seconded by O'Reilly to pass Resolution RESOLUTION #81 -43
#81 -43, accepting the agreement for Engineering Services for
the design (Phase II) of Buffalo Grove Road (Lake-Cook Road
to IL 83) street improvement. The next step in the FAU
processing this road reconstruction program is to approve the
final engineering design agreement. Both the Village and
Company should execute the agreement pursuant to the terms and
conditions of our previous understanding. Upon roll call , Trustees
voted as follows :
AYES : 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Gerschefske,
Schwartz
NAPES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Moved by Marienthal , seconded by O'Reilly, to review and accept CABLE TV
by motion the performance bond for Warner-Amex Cable Communica-
tions Company. Staff has reviewed and recommends Board accept-
ance of the Performance Bond from our CATV Company. Upon roll
call , Trustees voted as follows :
AYES: 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O 'Reilly, Hartstein, Gerschefske,
Schwartz
NAPES : 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
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Moved by Marienthal , seconded by O'Reilly, to authorize ESDA SIREN
purchase/bid waiver for the ESDA Siren. Staff recommends
purchase of the ESDA Siren pursuant to the approved FY 81-82
budget. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as follows:
AYES: 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein , Gerschefske,
Schwartz
NAPES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Trustee Schwartz stated that , due to ethical considerations , RESOLUTION #81 -44
he will abstain from participation in this discussion. (B. G. Commerce
Center - IndustriE
Mr. Balling stated that the Village Attorney has reviewed the Revenue Bonds)
final documents and redrafts and finds them in order as sub-
mitted. Mr. Tom Homburger, attorney for Mr. Benach, gave a
brief presentation. Mr. Ron Norene commented on his memo of
August 24, 1981 . Trustee O 'Reilly asked if the Village has any
liability in this venture. Mr. Norene stated that the Village
has absolutely no liability; he also answered other questions
from the Board.
Moved by Gerschefske, seconded by O'Reilly, to pass Resolution
#81 -44 expressing desire of the Village of Buffalo Grove to
issue bonds secured by land or site improvements in the Buffalo
Grove Commerce Center ( Industrial Revenue Bond Comfort Resolution
$1 ,000,000 authorization) . Upon roll call , Trustees voted as
follows:
AYES : 5 - Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein, Gerschefske
NAPES : 0 - None
ABSTAIN: 1 - Schwartz
Motion declared carried.
Moved by Gerschefske, seconded by O' Reilly, to pass Resolution RESOLUTION #81-45
#81-45 expressing the desire of the Village of Buffalo Grove to
issue bonds secured by land or the project in the Buffalo Grove
Commerce Center ( Industrial Revenue Bond Comfort Resolution,
$10,000,000 authorization) . Upon roll call , Trustees voted
as follows :
AYES: 5 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Gerschefske
NAPES: 0 - None
ABSTAIN: 1 - Schwartz
Motion declared carried.
Mr. Ron Benach thanked the Board on behalf of the Buffalo Grove
Commerce Center.
Trustee O'Reilly explained why she requested that the purchase MUNICIPAL VEHICLE
of the Municipal vehicles be removed from Consent ; her questions PURCHASE
regarded the 1976 Dodge Dart. Mr. Balling explained the use
of the vehicles and why replacement is recommended.
Moved by Schwartz, seconded by Hartstein, to award a bid for
municipal vehicles to Lattof Chevrolet for two vehicles in the
amount of $7,460.26 and to Hoskins Chevrolet for one vehicle
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in the amount of $8,922.57. Staff recommends purchases
pursuant to our approved budget and supplemental funding
plan of a Public Works truck, an inspector's sedan, and
the Fire Chief's wagon. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as
follows :
AYES : 5 - Marienthal , Stone, Hartstein, Gerschefske, Schwartz
NAYES: 1 - O'Reilly
Motion declared carried.
Trustee Gerschefske stated that he is in favor of the GOLF COURSE
proposed policy. RESERVE STARTING
TIME POLICY
Mr. Molinaro stated that the prime interest is keeping the
golf course financially stable, and also opening up more
prime starting times to Village residents. He stated that
he thinks the proposal he has come up with accomplishes these
goals . Mr. Molinaro's proposal is to set aside one time per
hour from 6:00 A.M. to 11 :00 A.M. on both Saturday and Sunday
which will not be sold on a permanent basis. Those times would
be available to Village residents on a week-to-week basis by
calling the Golf Course between Monday at 10:00 A.M. and
Friday at 9:00 A.M. Any times not taken by Friday at 9:00 A.M.
will be sold on a first-come, first-served basis. Mr. Molinaro
thinks that this policy will open up new times to Village residents,
without penalizing the golfers that now have permanent starting
times. Mr. Molinaro pointed out that over 25% of the current
reserved starting times have at least one Village resident in
the foursome. He stated that between l0 and 15% of the
permanent starting times open up each year.
Mr. Robert Berger stated that he thinks that there should be a
yearly lottery held for reserved starting times. Mr. Berger
thinks Mr. Molinaro's compromise is a reasonable one, but he
thinks that there should be three starting times open per
hour, rather than just one per hour, with two of those times
being available on a permanent basis to Village residents.
Mr. Ed Miner stated that Buffalo Grove is the only tax-
supported golf course in the area that does not have some
type of a lottery for reserved starting times.
Mr. Joe Sloat noted that there was notice of this meeting
posted in the locker room of the golf course five weeks ago.
President Clayton noted that the Village has always abated
all but $30,000 of tax money for the golf course.
Mr. Ed Fabish stated that he does not wish to see the type of
lottery originally proposed because it does not bring in the
up-front money which is needed. He does not wish to disturb
the present system; however, he thinks the proposed compromise
is a good one.
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Mr. Molinaro stated that if he finds that the proposed policy
cannot accommodate Village residents , he would not be opposed
to changing it again; however, he would prefer to make the
changes one step at a time in order to make sure that they
would work out fiscally for the golf course.
Moved by Stone, seconded by O'Reilly, to adopt the proposal
by Mr. Molinaro for reserved starting times .
Mr. Dana Johnson, resident of Buffalo Grove, and Vice President
of the Northern Illinois Men 's Amateur Golf Association,
stated that he thinks Mr. Molinaro's proposal is the best
solution to the problem.
Mr. Dave Fingerhut stated that the present system guarantees
pre-season revenue by selling starting times; he thinks that
the Village should proceed with the proposal .
Mr. Jim Bergstrom, a non-resident , stated that he has had a
family membership at the golf course for 10 years , and that,
as well as spending over $1 ,000 per year at the golf course,
he brings other revenue into the Village by shopping here
when he is at the course. He stated that the lottery system
would force him to go elsewhere.
Trustee Marienthal gave a brief history regarding the
conditions and purchase of the golf course. Trustee Hartstein
stated that fiscal responsibility, and service to residents of
Buffalo Grove are the main goals of the golf course; he strongly
supports the proposal suggested by Mr. Molinaro.
Upon roll call , Trustees voted on the motion as follows :
AYES : 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein, Gerschefske,
Schwartz
NAYES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried .
President Clayton thanked those members of the audience for
participating in the meeting.
President Clayton declared a recess from 8:50 P.M. to 9:05 P.M. RECESS
Mr. Tom Karis read a letter from the residents of the Ridgewood SCHWABEN CENTER
and Westwood Estates subdivisions listing their complaints
regarding the Schwaben Center; the letter also suggested
restrictions which should be placed on the Center. A petition
asking for action on these complaints was presented to the Board.
Mr. Ken Holt, of the Ridgewood subdivision, submitted a petition
supporting the Schwaben Center.
Mr. Ed Braun of the Schwaben Center gave a brief history of the
Center and their activities. He stated that they are going to
try to turn their outside speakers in different directions , so
as to try and alleviate the noise objected to by the residents .
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It was suggested that there be some time restriction on the
hours for playing amplified music. Mr. Braun stated that
they usually have only two major festivals per year, and he
thinks that they would need the hours that they currently
have.
Deputy Chief Voigt commented on the complaints which have
been received by the Police Department. He stated that the
officers that are on duty at the Center are being paid by the
Schwaben Center, and have squad cars , radios., and all other
Police equipment at their disposal . Deputy Chief Voigt
expressed his concern with the parking being on one side
of the road, and the activities on the other side of the
road, because of the safety aspect.
It was suggested that an ordinance be explored which would
limit the use of amplified sound throughout the Village.
Discussion followed on the hours of soccer practices and the
number of festivals held throughout the year. Mr. Braun said
that the Center does have their own people providing super-
vision. Mr. Neal Kozato stated that he has never seen anyone
patrolling the fields during the festivals. Mr. Erik Rauscher
commented that festival-goers park on Pauline Avenue, and then
walk across residents ' lawns at 2:00 A.M. to get to their cars.
Mrs. Rose Morrissey commented that the bands would be loud
enough without amplification. Mr. William Capri spoke in
favor of the activities of the Schwaben Center.
Mr. Steve Gilbert stated that the Schwaben Center was there
before the residents bought their homes, and they should have
been aware of this before they moved into the area. A resident
addressed the points which have been brought up so far, stating
that just putting restrictions on the amplified should would
not solve the problem, because it is also too loud during the
day. She also stated that they are not against the Schwaben
Center, but that they would like restrictions so that they
would be more able to enjoy their homes.
Another resident stated his thoughts supporting the Center,
and stated that he did not think that the sound is too loud.
Another resident stated that the people that did not think the
noise was excessive did not live directly adjacent to the Center.
It was suggested that there be restrictions on amplified sould
devices and outdoor activities adjacent to or within 100' of
a residential area after 10:30 P.M. Sunday through Thursday,
and after 12:00 midnight on Friday and Saturday, not just
relating to the Schwaben Center, but throughout the Village.
It was suggested that staff look into ordinances which exist
in surrounding Villages, since this ordinance would affect the
Village for years to come.
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Mr. Karis stated that most of the people that state that the
noise is not a problem do not live in the area where noise is
generated.
President Clayton polled the Board: "Yes" indicates favor of
staff looking into and making recommendations to the Board with
regard to an ordinance restricting amplifying devices; "No"
indicates opposition:
YES : Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Gerschefske, Schwartz
NO: None
President Clayton stated that staff will be looking into this,
and coming back to the Board with an ordinance which would be
reasonable.
It was requested that staff report back to the Board with regard
to the other eight items listed in the September 14, 1981 letter.
President Clayton stated that, since the information regarding PLAZA VERDE
the CompuShop sign did not reach the Trustees, there would be (CompuShop)
more discussion than normally would be necessary.
Trustee Schwartz reported that the Appearance Commission denied
the application of CompuShop for their sign in Plaza Verde,
based upon the `act that, although in principle, the Appearance
Commission approved the lettering, it did not fit the strict
standards set by the Plaza Verde sign package. The Appearance
Commission is asking the Board to request that the developer of
Plaza Verde meet with the Appearance Commission to give them
greater flexibility with that sign package.
Mr. Marvin Hymen, developer of Plaza Verde, agreed with Trustee
Schwartz that it probably is time to discuss the Plaza Verde
sign package again. Mr. Hymen cited variances which have been
granted . He also stated the importance of getting the proper
tenant mix in the shopping center. Mr. Hymen asked that the Board
approve this sign request, and stated that he will take Trustee
Schwartz 's suggestion to meet with the Appearance Commission.
Moved by Hartstein, seconded by Gerschefske, to overrule the
Appearance Commission recommendation and support the CompuShop
sign as proposed. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as follows :
AYES : 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein, Gerschefske,
Schwartz
NAYES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Trustee Schwartz suggested that Mr. Hymen contact Mr. Hruby
this week, and meet with the Appearance Commission at their
meeting next week.
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Moved by O' Reilly, seconded by Gerschefske, to adjourn the ADJOURNMENT_
meeting to workshop. Upon voice vote, it was unanimously voted
to adjourn to workshop. The meeting adjourned at 10:00 P.M.
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Janet M. Siabian, Village Clerk
APPROVED BY ME THIS al - DAY
OF 84t1"' , 1981 .
Village President
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