1983-07-18 - Village Board Regular Meeting - Minutes 6236
7/18/83
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE
VILLAGE BOARD OF THE VILLAGE OF BUFFALO
GROVE ILLINOIS, HELD IN THE COUNCIL
CHAMBERS, VILLAGE HALL, JULY 18, 1983
President Clayton called the meeting to order at 7: 32 P.M. CALL TO ORDER
Those present stood and pledged allegiance to the flag.
Roll call indicated the following present: President Clayton; ROLL CALL
Trustees Marienthal , Stone, O 'Reilly, Hartstein, Glover and
Reid . Also present were: William Balling, Village Manager;
William Raysa, Village Attorney; James Doyle, Assistant Village
Manager; William Brimm, Finance Director; Raymond Rigsby,
Superintendent of Public Works; Richard Kuenkler, Village
Engineer; James Truesdell , Village Planner; Frank Hruby,
Director of Building & Zoning; Fire Chief Wayne Winter; and
Paul Kochendorfer , Village Treasurer.
Moved by O' Reilly, seconded by Stone to appoint Eileen Marsh CLERK PRO TEM
Clerk Pro Tem in the absence of the Village Clerk. Upon voice
vote, the motion passed unanimously.
Trustee Hartstein referred to page 6227 and the request for APPROVAL OF
extension of the PUD ordinance for the Anden property. He MINUTES
felt the minutes should be amended to reflect the detail of
the discussion that occurred on this extension. Trustee O' Reilly
agreed that the minutes should reflect the discussion in greater
detail . President Clayton asked if there was specific wording
they wished included and Trustee Hartstein indicated that he
could suggest no specific wording but requested that the tape be
reviewed and a more detailed summary of the discussion that led
to the amendment be provided. Trustee Hartstein moved that the
minutes be tabled , seconded by Trustee O' Reilly. Upon voice vote,
the motion was declared carried.
Mr. Brimm read Warrant #506. Moved by O'Reilly, seconded by WARRANT #506
Reid to approve Warrant #506 in the amount of $974,465.92,
authorizing payment of bills listed. Upon roll call , Trustees
voted as follows :
AYES: 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES : 0 - None
ABSENT: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
President Clayton appointed Robert Bogart to fill a vacancy on COMMUNITY BLOOD
the Community Blood Donor Commission, with a term to expire DONOR COMMISSION
April 30, 1986. Moved by O' Reilly, seconded by Hartstein, to APPOINTMENT
concur with President Clayton 's appointment. Upon voice vote,
the motion was declared carried.
Mr. Balling noted the submission of the Management Report for MANAGEMENT
June, 1983. There were no comments on same. REPORT
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Mr. Balling then noted the Summary Report of the Golf Course GOLF COURSE
Fund dated July 1 9 3,
1 8 which reflects the fact that we are FUND SIX MONTH
ahead of projections as of 6/30/83 and anticipate that we could REPORT
exceed our revenue budget of $509,000 by over $40,000 by year
end . Mr. Balling noted that this was in spite of the fact that
we have not had good golfing weather. He further indicated that
we anticipate another record year at the Golf Course. President
Clayton expressed the Board 's compliments to Mr. Molinaro for the
fine performance of the Golf Course.
Mr. Balling then reported on the low water pressure situation REDUCED WATER
which was experienced over the weekend, principally due to a PRESSURE
power failure at Well #3, and some erratic pump operations at SITUATION
Well #2 due to the heat. Mr. Balling indicated that the
possibility of a water ban was discussed, however, the system
had recovered by Saturday evening eliminating the need for
such action. He noted that we are operating without Well #4
and Well #5 at this time, and as a result are operating more
conservatively than in the past because our recharge capabilities
are somewhat hampered by the loss of these facilities. We do
have a plan that can be implemented if a water ban is necessary,
but absent mechanical failure, this should not be necessary.
Trustee Marienthal noted that he experienced a greater reduction
in water pressure on Sunday than on Saturday, when the problem
apparently occurred. Mr. Balling indicated that on Sunday we
had held the pressure back intentionally as a conservation
measure. Trustee Marienthal felt that when a reduction in
pressure is to occur, it should be publicized so that residents
can be made aware that this situation is occurring. Mr. Balling
indicated that it would be possible to publicize in the news-
paper during periods of extreme heat that we will be conserving
water through reduced pressure.
Trustee Hartstein requested a clarification of the procedure
followed when reverting to an emergency situation and what steps
are taken to insure that adequate pressure is available for a
fire situation. Mr. Rigsby indicated that Well #6 is always in
a stand-by situation wherein it will automatically come in when
we lose pressure in the system. He further stated that when
these situations arise, we have a duty man available at all times
to respond and activate the high service pressure pump to increase
the pressure in the system. Trustee Hartstein questioned how the
duty man is made aware of an emergency in the system. Mr. Rigsby
indicated that there are alarms on each well and when they are
activated the Police Department notifies the Public Works duty
man, who then responds immediately. Mr. Balling indicated that
many of the problems we presently have with our water system will
be solved with the arrival of Lake Michigan water.
Mr. Balling notified the Village Board that the Northwest Water NWC PETITION
Commission did file with the Circuit Court of Cook County a FOR MANDAMUS
Petition For Mandamus against the Village of Skokie to resolve
an impasse which has arisen with regard to Division B-1 . He went
on to explain the situation that exists and the reasons for filing
this petition.
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President Clayton asked if there were any questions from the QUESTIONS FROM
audience. There were none. THE AUDIENCE
President Clayton explained the Consent Agenda and stated that CONSENT AGENDA
any member of the Board or the audience could request that an
item be removed for full discussion . There were no such requests .
Moved by Stone, seconded by O' Reilly, to approve Resolution RESOLUTION
No. 83-23, a resolution in support of the Village of Lake Bluff' s NO. 83-23
position regarding municipal jurisdiction within the 1 -1/2 mile (Support of
planning area. This resolution expresses support for the Village Lake Bluff)
of Lake Bluff's position in an active lawsuit. The outcome of
this lawsuit could directly affect Buffalo Grove's ability to
protect our jurisdictional rights within the 1-1/2 mile planning
limit. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as follows:
AYES : 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Moved by Stone, seconded by O ' Reilly, to approve Resolution RESOLUTION
No. 83-24, a resolution authorizing continuation of membership NO. 83-24
in the Intergovernmental Risk Management Agency. Continued (IRMA)
membership requires adoption of this Resolution and Contract/
By-Laws. The Contract/By-Laws have been reviewed by the Director
of Finance & General Services and the Village Attorney and adoption
is recommended. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as follows :
AYES : 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES : 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Moved by Stone, seconded by O' Reilly, to approve the Warner- WARNER-AMEX
Amex Liability Insurance Certificate. Article IV, Section 12 LIABILITY
(G) of the Cable Communications Ordinance requires that terms INSURANCE
and coverage of liability insurance be approved by the Village CERTIFICATE
Board. The Certificate of Insurance complies with the limits
of coverage required by the Ordinance and approval is recommended.
Upon roll call , Trustees voted as follows:
AYES : 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein , Glover, Reid
NAYES : 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Moved by Stone, seconded by O' Reilly, to accept the Annual ACCEPT ANNUAL
Report of Condition of the Firemen 's Pension Fund. State REPORT OF
Statutes require the condition of the pension fund be reported CONDITION OF
to the Village Board prior to levying of property taxes. The FIREMEN PENSION
total amount to be levied in 1983 and collected in 1984 to meet FUND
pension fund requirements is $53,914.06. Upon roll call , Trustees
voted as follows:
AYES : 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
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Moved by Stone, seconded by O' Reilly, to accept the Annual ANNUAL REPORT
Report of Condition of the Buffalo Grove Police Pension Fund. OF CONDITION
State Statutes require the condition of the pension fund be OF POLICE
reported to the Village Board prior to levying of property PENSION FUND
taxes. The total amount to be levied in 1983 to meet pension
fund requirements is $13,602. Upon roll call , Trustees voted
as follows:
AYES: 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Moved by Stone, seconded by O 'Reilly, to accept the Annual ANNUAL REPORT
Report of the Board of Fire and Police Commissioners. The OF BOARD OF
Commission is required to submit an annual report of activities FIRE & POLICE
to the Board of Trustees. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as COMMISSIONERS
follows :
AYES: 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES : 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Moved by Stone, seconded by O' Reilly , to authorize the bidding AUTHORITY TO
for the 1983 Parkway Tree Replacement Program. Authority is BID (1983
requested to advertise and receive bids for 35 parkway tree Parkway Tree
replacements. The program has been approved in the FY-83-84 Replacement
Budget. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as follows : Program)
AYES: 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Moved by Stone, seconded by O' Reilly, to authorize the purchase AUTHORIZE
and bid waiver for a soft body armor from Second Chance, Inc. PURCHASE & BID
The Police Department is requesting authority to waive bids and FOR SOFT BODY
purchase soft body armor from Second Chance, Inc. @$255 per vest, ARMOR
with $200 per vest coming from the $6,600 approved for this
purpose in the FY83-84 budget , and the remaining $55 from each
officer's clothing allowance. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as
follows:
AYES : 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein , Glover, Reid
NAYES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Moved by Stone, seconded by O' Reilly, to approve the Appearance APPEARANCE
Commission recommendation for Hidden Lakes Village, Phase II COMMISSION
landscaping. The Appearance Commission recommends approval RECOMMENDATION
of this aesthetic element of the subject property. Upon roll (Hidden Lakes
call , Trustees voted as follows: Village Phase II
AYES: 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid Landscaping)
NAYES : 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
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Moved by Stone, seconded by O' Reilly, to approve the Site SITE IMPROVE-
Improvement Agreement for Buffalo Grove Commerce Center, Lot 8. MENT AGREEMENT
Approval of this agreement is recommended by the Village Engineer. (B .G.Commerce
Upon roll call , Trustees voted as follows : Center)
AYES: 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O'Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Moved by O'Reilly, seconded by Reid , to approve Resolution RESOLUTION
No. 83-25 supporting the closing of Schaeffer Road and urging NO. 83-25
the opening of Hicks Road. Trustee Stone expressed concern BUFFALO CREEK
that by encouraging the closing of Schaeffer Road we may only FOREST PRESERVE
accomplish the closing of both Schaeffer and Hicks Roads.
Discussion followed concerning the need for either Schaeffer
Road or Hicks Road to remain open . Trustee O' Reilly amended
the motion that Schaeffer Road not be closed unless and until
Hicks Road is reopened. Seconded by Reid. Upon roll call vote,
Trustees voted as follows :
AYES: 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES : 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Trustee Hartstein commended Bill Brimm on the detailed WATER RATE
comprehensive report on the Water Rate Study Update, and STUDY UPDATE
requested Mr. Brimm highlight for the Board add the audience
the recommendations contained within the report. Mr. Brimm
proceeded to review the report for the Board. Trustee O' Reilly
questioned the start up date for the rate increase in that we
had originally projected a January 1 start up date but have
since pushed it back to May 1 . Mr. Brimm then discussed the
reason for this change. Mr. Balling . further stated that ,it is
the policy of the Village to implement the rate increase only
after Lake Michigan water is flowing, however, this could be
amended should there be a major draw down of the water fund due
to emergency repairs or extraordinary circumstances. Trustee
O' Reilly stated that she does not wish to see us alter our
policy of not charging this increase until the residents
actually have the Lake Michigan water. Mr. Balling indicated
that this remains our policy.
Trustee Marienthal indicated that he had contacted Congressman
Porter concerning his support for a possible reversal in the
posture of the IRS in regard to deducting from taxes the items
on the water bills relating to bonds and interest.
Trustee Hartstein moved that the report be accepted and the
recommendations contained therein be adopted. Seconded by O'Reilly.
Upon voice vote, the motion carried unanimously.
Mr. Balling reported that Emergency Squad #246 received severe EMERGENCY
damage to the chassis and frame as a result of an accident SQUAD REPAIR
during a response call . He noted that the unit was scheduled
for normal replacement in FY 83-84, but had been deferred until
FY84-85. The staff report outlines alternatives ranging from
major rehabilitation to accelerated replacement during FY 83-84.
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As this is a combined district response vehicle, Arlington Heights
would be responsible for half of the repair or replacement cost ,
which they have agreed to pay out of their FY84-85 budget with
funds becoming available on May 1 , 1984. Assuming a replacement
unit was delivered in February, 1984 with a 30 day invoice, we
would have to finance Arlington Heights ' share for a 30 day period.
Staff's recommendation would be to finance the replacement by using
the capital replacement reserves accumulated for Unit #246 and part
of the ladder truck reserve from the Central Garage Fund. Mr. Balling
indicated that in view of the amount of damage and the use of the
vehicle, rehabilitation does not appear to be beneficial . All gear
on the truck would be retained and a new diesel generator ordered.
The old gas generator would be transferred to the Water Department.
Mr. Balling recommended that the Board authorize bidding for a
replacement and authorize staff to negotiate with Arlington Heights
for payment of their 50 percent share.
Trustee Marienthal asked if both Alternative 2 (replacement chassis
and rebuild body) and Alternative 3 (replace complete unit) had 10
year guarantees, why Alternative 3 was recommended. He also stated
that if reserve funds were used to finance Arlington Heights' share,
we should expect interest on funds used for that purpose. Mr.
Balling stated that Arlington Heights would be required to pay
interest on the money. Mr. Rigsby stated that he is not sure we
could get a 10 year guarantee on a rebuilt body because of the
extensive damage and electrolosis already existing. Chief Winter
indicated that electrolosis of the body was a major problem which -
nothing short of totally rebuilding the body would cure.
Trustee Stone questioned the difference in trade- in values in the
report of $15,000 in FY 84-85 and $6,000 in FY 83-84. Mr. Rigsby
replied that the lower value assumes no repair to the unit. Trustee
Stone asked what our insurance covered. Mr. Brimm stated IRMA would
pay to repair or replace the unit, but that in their opinion, the
unit is not totalled and can be repaired. Trustee Stone asked if
the unit cannot be repaired to our satisfaction, can we require
replacement. Mr. Brimm replied that IRMA would only pay the repair
estimate.
President Clayton asked if after the unit is taken apart for
inspection, and the repair estimate increases, would this be
covered by our insurance. Mr. Brimm indicated that it would.
President Clayton stated that it would be advisable to have the
unit fully inspected in order to get a firm estimate.
Mr. Balling stated that in order to get a complete estimate, the
body would have to be removed and substantial amount of work done.
He asked if staff had an estimate of this cost. Mr. Rigsby indicated
they did not as the repair of the apparatus body would have to be
done in Wisconsin.
Trustee Stone stated that squad #246 had a 6 year service life
expectancy and the report indicates a 10 year service life. Mr.
Rigsby responded that by switching to a diesel chassis, its service
life is extended to 10 years , and the newer all aluminum bodies carry
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at least a 10 year warranty. The chassis would be scheduled for
replacement in 10 years, the body in 20.
Trustee Glover stated that he would like to know the cost of
removing the body for inspection and what, if any, of that expense
would be covered by insurance. He stated that information would be
helpful in making a decision. He asked Mr. Rigsby that if this
were done, would the inspection be complete enough for the
manufacturer to determine whether or not a 10 year guarantee
could be offered. Mr. Rigsby replied that the tank would also
have to be removed. In response to another question from Trustee
Glover, Mr. Rigsby stated that in his opinion, a repaired chassis
would not last more than one year.
Trustee Hartstein stated he felt the Board was not in a position to
adequately evaluate the alternatives based on the information pro-
vided. He stated that if the unit could be adequately repaired,
that should be done rather than buying a new unit. Mr. Balling
responded that the intent was not to buy a new piece of equipment
for the sake of upgrading equipment, but re-emphasized that squad
#246 was previously evaluated and scheduled for replacement in
Fy 83-84 based upon its condition.
Trustee O' Reilly stated that in her opinion, the Board was not
prepared to make a decision based on the information presented.
She asked if a certain amount of money could be authorized to
perform a complete inspection in order to get a complete estimate.
Trustee O 'Reilly asked if the cost of an inspection could be sub-
mitted to the Board at the next meeting. Mr. Rigsby stated that
we have firm estimates from a reputable manufacturer for repairs
of the unit , but that the manufacturer won ' t offer a 10 year
guarantee. Trustee O' Reilly asked if the squad could be repaired
and used as a stand by unit. Chief Winter indicated there is no
need for a stand by unit.
Trustee O' Reilly asked that the item be tabled until additional
information is provided , including the cost of removing the box,
comments from a representative of IRMA, and clarification as to
whether alternative 2 would provide a 10 year guarantee on the
apparatus body. President Clayton withheld action on the motion
pending further discussion.
Trustee Marienthal stated that if additional damage is found,
which would justify the vehicle being totaled, we should require
that IRMA replace the vehicle. Mr. Balling stated that in his
opinion it is unlikely the vehicle could be declared a total loss
because it is apparent salvage value exists.
Trustee Stone stated that if that is the case, the vehicle should be
replaced and the salvage value recovered by IRMA. He noted that the
same arguments presented to the Board for replacement should be
presented to IRMA.
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Trustee Reid stated that the manufacturer should be able to provide
a 10 year guarantee. Mr. Balling noted that the contemplated
repairs would not solve the electrolosis problem. Trustee Reid
identified several arithmetic errors in the report and askedthat
they be corrected.
Trustee Glover stated that if a 10 year warranty could be obtained
on a rebuilt body, then Alternative 2 appears to be more cost
effective than Alternative 3, particularly when the cost of a
replacement chassis is added to the 20 year life expectancy of
the body in Alternative 3.
Trustee Hartstein commented that Alternative 2 needs to be more
fully developed. Moved by O' Reilly, seconded by Stone, that the
item be tabled for the following information:
1 . Cost of removal of the box.
2. Comments and further information from a representative
of IRMA.
3. Clarification of whether Alternative 2 would provide a
guarantee on the appparatus body.
unanimously
Upon a voice vote, the motion was declared carried.
President Clayton declared a recess from 9:09 P.M. until RECESS
9: 19 P.M.
Mr. Rich Heinrich requested that Item E be moved up on the
agenda as he had to leave to attend another meeting. Upon
agreement of all other parties involved, President Clayton
granted this request.
Trustee Marienthal asked if Mr. and Mrs. Hundley would like APPEAL OF
to present their appeal of the ZBA decision concerning their ZBA DECISION
dog run . Mr. Hundley reiterated the request made to the ZBA
and stated that the location they chose for the dog run is the
most logical in regard to its proximity to neighboring homes.
He also noted that he had gone to extra expense to make the
structure more pleasing to the eye and fit in with the surrounding
structures. Mr. Heinrich indicated that the ZBA decision was based
upon the size of the dog run and the materials used which make it
very noticeable. He noted that this type of request for variance
does not meet the normal hardship requirements of the ZBA in
regard to fencing. Mr. Heinrich stated that there are, in
their opinion other locations on the Hundley property where
the dog run could be located that would not require a variance
and this was another reason for the denial of their request.
Moved by Marienthal , seconded by. Reid, to uphold the decision
of the ZBA to deny this use, and that the dog run be removed and
placed behind the house, which is within the 25' setback area.
Upon roll call , Trustees voted as follows :
AYES: 5 - Marienthal , Stone, Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES : 1 - O' Reilly
Motion declared carried.
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Mr. Truesdell explained the request made by a resident of REMOVAL OF
Thorndale Court for the removal of the fence restriction PAULINE AVENUE
along Pauline Avenue. He reviewed the details of a similar FENCE RESTRIC-
request which was granted by the Board concerning fences TION
j along Weiland Road and recommended that the same procedure be
followed with regard to Pauline Avenue. The procedure is as
follows:
1 . Referral by the Village Board to the Appearance Commission
for consideration of amending the approved landscape plan.
I 2. An amended covenant should be prepared and signed by all
property owners along Pauline Avenue. The preparation of
this covenant should be the responsibility of the property
owners.
3. Approval by the Village Board of both the Appearance Commission
recommendation and the amended covenant.
Moved by Glover, seconded by Reid, that the matter be referred
to the Appearance Commission for consideration of amending the
approved landscape plan. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as
follows :
AYES: 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES : 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
Trustee Stone deferred to Mr. Kuenkler who indicated that HIDDEN LAKE
Item #4 in his memo of 7/14/83 has been completed and lot 13 VILLAGE FINAL
has been added to the plat. Mr. Raysa commented that the PLAT OF SUB-
property owner will not grant a permanent easement along the DIVISION
Farrington Ditch Improvement. The only way we could obtain this UNIT 2
easement would be through condemnation. Mr. Raysa stated that
he would like to make the Board aware of the status of lot 13.
In the original annexation agreement lot 13 was designated as a
municipal site for a fire station or a reservoir, both of which
were subsequently built at other locations. His initial thought
was to take the deed to lot 13 now and get it into the Village,
but if the Village does not want lot 13, then you have to effect
the sale of the property. If we accept lot 13 and have to go
through that bidding procedure, it could be taking away an
alternative with regard to the development of phase 3 and for
that reason, it is Mr. Raysa 's recommendation that we not take
lot 13. Trustee O ' Reilly questioned where the burrow pits shown
on the approved engineering plans other than the required
deepening of the existing lakes . Trustee O' Reilly further questioned
the exceptions to the blanket easements and what that meant. Mr.
Kuenkler responded that the plat grants to the Village and other
utilities blank easements which means that there is an easement
granted throughout the individual lots, except within the area
shown as an exception, which is where the building is placed.
Trustee O'Reilly asked when Buffalo Grove Road and Busch Road
would be constructed , or has there been an agreement on how much
money they would contribute. Mr. Kuenkler indicated that the
improvement plans contain both Busch Road and Buffalo Grove Road
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and require that they be done within 2 years. Trustee O' Reilly
asked whether the lakes would essentially remain the same as in
the original annexation. Mr. Kuenkler advised that in the original
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annexation , all the vegetation was to have been removed, but
with the present plan, all the existing vegetation will be
retained and the existing lakes will be deepened. Trustee
O' Reilly asked when we would see a proposal for the two outlots
and Mr. Pfeffer indicated that he would be working up something
on this soon. Moved by Trustee Stone, seconded by Glover, that
approval be granted to Hidden Lakes Village Phase 2 subject to
Items 1 , 2 and 3 of Dick Kuenkler's memo of 7/14/83. Upon roll
call , Trustees voted as follows:
AYES : 6 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly , Hartstein, Glover, Reid
NAYES: 0 - None
Motion declared carried.
President Clayton called upon the developers to present their PRE-APPLICATION
plan to the Board, asking them to introduce themselves and CONFERENCE
indicate their interest in the property. Mr. Jerry Buckley (Arlington
indicated that he is an architect and land planner with offices Country Club)
in Chicago & Wilmette and has been retained by Mr. Brown to
develop a land plan for the subject property, and indicated that
he was presenting a preliminary concept plan of the development
I'! of the property. President Clayton asked Mr. Brown if he had an
option on this property and he indicated that his interest was
difficult to define in that the final purchase price would depend
on the action of the Board and their approval or disapproval of
what is proposed. He indicated that he has a legal understanding ,
but could not call it an option or a contract. Mr. Balling asked
if Mr. Taggert would be signing the petitions for annexation, and
Mr. Brown indicated that he would. President Clayton indicated to
Mr. Brown that tonight was just a pre-application and there would
be no definite commitments made. Mr. Brown indicated that he was
interested in getting a feel for the Board 's thoughts and under-
standing of the project.
Mr. Buckley then pointed out to the Board an exhibit depicting
a gross acreage of 131 acres and described the boundaries of the
property, indicating 3.6 acres of property fronting on Dundee Road
which is reserved for commercial development, leaving a gross acreage
of 128+ acres to be developed into a golf course and residential
development. The plan calls for a 9 hole golf course to be retained
on the site and develop approximately 810 units. There are basically
four types of buildings proposed; 4 will contain 69 apartment units
per building; buildings which will contain 4 units and 6 units and
some containing just 2 attached single family dwelling units. There
is currently an existing retention basin lake on the property which
will be retained and supplemented with additional water retention
structures. There is some flood plain located along the creek to
the north of the property which would involve engineering for the
improvement thereof. Mr. Buckley indicated that they are proposing
to have a sidewalk on one side of the dedicated roads throughout the
development , thereby reducing the dedicated right of way from 60' to
54' wide. This is an essential part of the concept to get the density
which is required and still preserve the golf course. Additionally,
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it is important to seek a variance in the required setback of
the building lines from 25 ' down to 20' . The concept plan reflects
this variance. Mr. Buckley stated that this concept plan has
proposed three rather long cul de sacs, in excess of the 500' limit
which exists. The plan proposes to provide emergency vehicular
driveway across the golf course thereby shortening the effective
distance of the cul de sacs by providing emergency vehicular access.
Mr. Buckley stated that the buildings which would contain the 69
l dwelling units would be 4 stories high with a parking garage located
�•/ in a half basement. The project will be built according to all local
codes. There will be 2 parking spaces per dwelling unit provided for
the majority of the development, and in the 4 apartment type buildings,
there would be 1 -1/2 spaces per unit , plus additional exterior park-
ing to bring it up to approximately 1 -3/4 spaces per unit, putting
it close to 200% parking in this concept plan. They would construct
a new golf clubhouse and parking facility on the Buffalo Grove Road
frontage at the extreme north of the property and there would be a
condominium association club house and swimming pool plus tennis courts.
Trustee Marienthal asked what the widths of the streets would be. Mr.
Buckley stated they would conform with the Subdivision Control Ordinance
relative to the pavement widths . Trustee Marienthal then asked if
the streets would be public or private. Mr. Buckley stated that the
road which comes in off of Dundee and loops around joining another
road which comes in from Buffalo Grove Road and eventually ends in a
cul de sac; and two additional cul de sacs which come in off of this
main road, will all be dedicated. There are a number of small loop
streets , or multiple driveways, which are proposed to be private and
privately maintained. With regard to the golf course, Trustee
Marienthal asked if this would be owned by the condominium association.
Mr. Buckley said that it would be a public golf course held under private
ownership. Trustee Marienthal asked if the 69 unit building would be
condominiums or rental units. Mr. Buckley indicated that the final
decision had not been made, but that the building would be constructed
to condominium quality and would basically be 2 - 3 bedroom and
2-2 1/2 baths. Mr. Buckley showed a brochure from a condomium
development which is similar in appearance to what these buildings
would be. Mr. Brown indicated that the development would be done
in phases with a combination of whatever type of buildings fall
within each phase. Mr. Brown indicated that they hoped to develop
between 100-125 units per year and would like to keep the golf course
operating throughout the construction period , for economic reasons.
Trustee Hartstein stated that he is most impressed with the plan
itself and feels that it will be an asset to the community. He
indicated that areas he may see with the plan are in regard to
the setback variations and the concept of public streets versus
private, however, he feels that these are things that can be
worked out as the planning progresses. Trustee Hartstein then asked
what the square footage of the units would be. Mr. Buckley indicated
that the smallest unit would be a 2 bedroom unit with approximately
1300 s. f. , and the largest 3 bedroom plus den, 2-1/2 bath duplex
home would be approximately 2200 s.f. Trustee Hartstein then asked
what Mr. Brown 's background was in the development field and what
other projects he had been involved in . Mr. Brown named several
projects that he was involved in previously.
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Trustee O' Reilly indicated a concern with the cul de sacs with
regard to emergency vehicles. She further indicated disappointment
that something could not be worked out whereby Buffalo Grove itself
or in conjunction with Wheeling could attempt to acquire this golf
course so that an additional 18 hole course could be retained for
this area.
Trustee Glover indicated that he was very pleased with the plan and
the fact that many points had been addressed at this planning stage
( i .e. , emergency access to cul de sacs) rather than waiting until
further into the planning. He stated that he was concerned with
how much of the development was located within the flood plain.
Mr. Buckley indicated that some preliminary engineering had been
done which indicated that the detention facility which is there now
is three times the capacity of what is currently required. He further
indicated that there is very little of the development located on
the flood plain and for the small amount that is on the flood plain ,
there is more than enough capacity in the detention storage area.
Trustee Marienthal asked if they had considered the possibility
of joining up the road network of this subdivision with that of
a subdivision directly to the south of this which has been approved
by the Village Board, thus possibly eliminating the long cul de sac.
He requested that the developer look into this possibility.
Trustee Reid questioned whether there would be a problem in having
golfing in such close proximity to the homes and asked whether this
was an accepted concept of blending golf courses with condominium
homes. Mr. Buckley indicated that this plan does conform to the
accepted limits of such developments .
President Clayton indicated that she would like to take a polling
of the Board with regard to their feelings on this development.
Mr. Brown indicated that there were three points which he would
like the Board to address in their polling:
1 . The concept of the sidewalk on one side
2. The concept of the set back
3. The concept of fire access across the fairway to eliminate the
objection to the length of the cul de sac.
President Clayton indicated that this would be done, but wished
to make it clear that this polling is very preliminary and would
not in any way be binding.
President Clayton requested a polling of the Board concerning the
concept of this PUD retaining the 9 hole golf course. No
indicating opposition. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as follows :
YES : 5 - Marienthal , Stone, Hartstein, Glover, Reid, Clayton
NO: 1 - O' Reilly
President Clayton then polled the Board concerning their willingness
to consider sidewalks on one side of the street reiterating that a
lot of further discussion must take place before actually giving
approval to such a concept. Yes indicating in favor of, No indicating
opposition. Upon roll call , Trustees voted as follows :
YES : 7 - Marienthal , Stone, O ' Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid ,
Clayton
NO: 0 - None
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President Clayton polled the Board as to whether they would
be willing to consider 20' set backs as opposed to 25' set
backs. Yes indicating in favor, No indicating opposition :
YES : 7 - Marienthal , Stone, O' Reilly, Hartstein, Glover, Reid,
Clayton
NO: 0 - None
President Clayton polled the Board, would you be willing to
`/ consider the fire access across the fairways in consideration
of the length of the cul de sacs; Yes indicating in favor, No
indicating opposition:
YES : 5 - Stone, Hartstein, Glover, Reid, Clayton
NO: 2 - Marienthal , O' Reilly
(NOTE: Trustee Marienthal originally voted to "Pass", then
indicated that he would like to change his vote to a no.)
Mr. Buckley added the comment with regard to the sidewalk
system that it would be contingent upon there being an adequate
internal circulation sidewalk pattern developed and on the
reduction of the set backs , they would orient all the units
away from the streets and toward the golf course views .
President Clayton stated that she felt that although there are
a lot of things that would need to be worked out on this plan ,
it would be a welcome addition to Buffalo Grove.
Moved by Stone, seconded by Marienthal , to adjourn the meeting. ADJOURNMENT
UponUpon voice vote, the motion was unanimously declared carried.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:25 P.M.
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Ei enF. Marsh, Village Clerk Pro Tern
APPROVED BY ME THIS (4 DAY
OF , 1983.
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Village President