2008-11-05 - Plan Commission - Minutes Board or Commission: ❑ Plan Commission
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PUBLIC HEARING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
November 5, 2008
Waterbury Place Subdivision
Amendment of Planned Unit Development concerning
rowhome and townhome buildings
along Apple Hill Lane
Chairman Ottenheimer called the hearing to order at 7:30 p.m. in the Village Council Chambers,
Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Chairman Ottenheimer read the Notice of Public Hearing as published
in the Buffalo Grove Daily Herald, explained the procedure to be followed for the public hearing
and swore in all persons who wished to give testimony.
Commissioners present: Chairman Ottenheimer
Mr. Smith
Ms. Bocek
Mr. Stark
Mr. Cohn
Ms. Myer
Mr. Weinstein
Commissioners absent: Mr. Khan
Mr. Teplinsky
Also present: Mr. Steve Spinell, Edward R. James Homes
Mr. Scott Freres, The Lakota Group, Inc.
Mr. Brad Bacilek, Edward R. James Homes
Mr. William Raysa, Village Attorney
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
The following exhibits were presented by the petitioner at the public hearing:
Exhibit A: Proposed Site Plan dated October 15, 2008
Exhibit B: Original Site Plan
Exhibit C: Crossection view through Apple Hill Ln dated October 15, 2008
Exhibit D: Street front comparison dated October 15, 2008
Exhibit E: Memo from Mr. Robert Pfeil to the Plan Commission dated October 31, 2008
Mr. Spinell stated they are petitioning for a product substitution toward the south end of the
property. He stated they would like to have the flexibility to either construct the 3-story
townhomes or the row homes on the south portion of the site. The reason for this is with market
conditions the way they are and what they are learning about the consumer with the units up
against the railroad tracks is that it would be better to market a product that has the garages
toward the alley way and the railroad tracks with an interior courtyard. Also having a 2-story
structure with a basement opens up a larger market to sell the product versus a 3-story
townhome.
Mr. Scott Freres stated the operative word is flexibility to allow two product styles to be
interchanged into the same land plan. He reviewed the original site plan noting that as they have
moved down to the south there is the desire to reflect the conditions of the market and some of
the concerns about the railroad. In order to do that the request they seek is a variance in
relaxation of the front yard setback, particularly along the west side of Apple Hill. In doing so
they also will be providing the same 35 foot rear yard setback. As part of their plan in asking for
this relief it will bring the front yard to 10 feet instead of 25 feet setback. There will be no
encroachment with staircases as there are on the townhome and rowhomes on the original plan.
Mr. Freres reviewed the proposed rowhome condition which will brought down to the grade so
there will be a minimal step up and no stairs off that condition and brought to within 10 feet of
the front yard. Landscaping design and all the components everywhere else will be consistent
here whereas there is more grass space in front of the other rowhomes to the north of the project,
there will be more perennials, shrubs and groundcover here. The tuck under or townhome
condition does have a staircase coming down but that staircase will no longer encroach into what
was the 25 foot front yard setback and will come to no further than the 10 foot front yard setback
they are requesting. Both of the rear yard setbacks stay the same as they are.
Mr. Freres reviewed a street front comparison of a 25 foot front yard setback and a 10 foot front
yard setback. The difference will be in the amount of grass that is in those two areas but it is
essentially the same streetscape character as all the other areas. The tradeoff in this particular
product is having more rear yard living space that is protected and buffered from the tracks by a
detached garage.
Commissioner Stark noted that the developer is basically going from a maximum of 24 units to a
minimum of 12.
Mr. Spinell stated there would be 22 units. The approved plan allows 24 units, and the number
will be reduced to 22 if the rowhome plan is built.
Commissioner Stark asked if the duplex homes across the street are still scheduled to be built.
Mr. Spinell stated yes.
Commissioner Weinstein stated he likes the presentation of 2 townhomes and 2 rowhomes but he
does not want to see a three and one combination. He has no problem with 4 and 0 or 2 and 2.
Mr. Spinell stated most likely it would end up being 2 and 2 because they have been selling at a
pace or there would be an equal pace of rowhome versus townhome although they do believe
that if they get the approval for putting the rowhomes in this location it would accelerate the
pace of their sales. He stated they would still like to have the flexibility of 3 and 1 if they could,
however, instead of just plopping one in the middle perhaps one on one side or the other versus 2
and 2 would be good.
Commissioner Weinstein asked if they would agree not to put one rowhome or townhome in the
middle.
Mr. Spinell said this is a fair request, and he stated that it is an acceptable condition of approval.
There being no further comments or questions from anyone else present, Chairman Ottenheimer
closed the public hearing at 7:50 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Fay Rubin, Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
LESTER OTTENHEIMER, Chair
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REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
November 5, 2008
Waterbury Place subdivision—Amendment of Planned Unit
Development concerning rowhome and townhome buildings
Along Apple Hill Lane
Discussion of Village Comprehensive Plan Update
Chairman Ottenheimer called the meeting to order at 7:50 p.m. in the Village Council Chambers,
Buffalo Grove Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners present: Chairman Ottenheimer
Mr. Smith
Ms. Bocek
Mr. Stark
Mr. Cohn
Ms. Myer
Mr. Weinstein
Commissioners absent: Mr. Khan
Mr. Teplinsky
Also present:
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Weinstein, seconded by Commissioner Bocek to approve the minutes
of the public hearing of October 15, 2008. All Commissioners were in favor of the motion and
the motion passed unanimously.
Moved by Commissioner Smith, seconded by Commissioner Stark to approve the regular
meeting minutes of October 15, 2008. All Commissioners were in favor of the motion and the
motion passed unanimously.
COMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS
Commissioner Stark attended the Village board meeting on November 3, 2008 and stated the
Village Board re-authorized the special use three child care homes and they approved a special
use for Amber Music and Dance facility on Lexington Drive.
WATERBURY PLACE SUBDIVISION — AMENDMENT OF PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT CONCERNING ROWHOME AND TOWNHOME BUILDINGS ALONG
APPLE HILL LANE
Moved by Commissioner Smith, seconded by Commissioner Weinstein to recommend approval
to the Village Board of an amendment of the Planned Unit Development and Preliminary Plan in
the R-9 District with the following variation pursuant to the proposed site plan: ZONING
ORDINANCE— Section 17.40.050.C. (to allow a front yard setback of 10 feet instead of 25 feet
for four buildings). The petitioner proposes to construct rowhome or townhome buildings along
the west side of Apple Hill Lane with a front yard of 10 feet, subject to the condition that if the
developer decides to construct three buildings of one type and one building of the other type, the
single building should not be located between buildings of the other type.
Chairman Ottenheimer called for a vote on the motion and the vote was as follows:
AYES: Smith, Bocek, Stark, Cohn, Myer, Weinstein, Ottenheimer
NAYS: None
ABSENT: Khan, Teplinsky
ABSTAIN: None
The motion passed 7 to 0.
DISCUSSION OF VILLAGE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE
Mr. Pfeil noted that the Buffalo Grove Park District has started a comprehensive plan concerning
Park District facilities and their vision for future needs. The Park District will evaluate possible
uses for the Didier farm on Aptakisic Road as part of the planning process.
Mr. Pfeil commented that the Village's planning for future use of the Didier farm has focused on
extensive single-family development, but in his opinion other land use scenarios should be
explored. He noted that the Lake County Framework Plan currently designates the Didier farm
for agricultural use. Mr. Pfeil suggested that a strong case could be made that organic farming or
other specialty farming use would be the best land use.
Chairman Ottenheimer concurred that considering uses other than single—family residential
makes very good sense, and he noted that mixed use development with residential and
commercial, with appropriate land plans, should be evaluated for the Aptakisic Road corridor.
CHAIRMAN'S REPORT—None
FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE—None
Mr. Pfeil stated the next scheduled meeting will be held on November 19, 2008.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS -None
STAFF REPORT—None
NEW BUSINESS—None
ADJOURNMENT—
Moved by Commissioner Smith, seconded by Commissioner Bocek and carried unanimously to
adjourn. Chairman Ottenheimer adjourned the meeting at 7:59 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Fay Rubin, Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
LESTER OTTENHEIMER, Chair