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PUBLIC HEARING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
October 2, 2013
EPIC Power & Conditioning, 1620 Barclay Boulevard, - Special Use for a
recreation facility in the Industrial District
Chairman Smith called the hearing to order at 7:30 a.m. in the Village Council Chambers,
Buffalo Grove Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois. Chairman Smith
read the Notice of Public Hearing as published in the Buffalo Grove Daily Herald, explained the
procedure to be followed for the public hearing, and swore in all persons who wished to give
testimony.
Commissioners present: Chairman Smith
Mr. Khan
Mr. Stark
Mr. Cohn
Mr. Weinstein
Ms. Johnson
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Matthews
Commissioners absent: None
Also present: Mr. Joshua Refenes, EPIC
Ms. Beverly Sussman, Village Trustee
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
The following exhibits were presented by the petitioner at the public hearing:
Exhibit 1: Memo from Mr. Robert Pfeil to the Plan Commission dated September 26, 2013
Mr. Refenes stated he and his wife have been operating EPIC Power & Conditioning for about a
year at a facility called the Institute for Human Performance in Deerfield. However, they are
growing out of that facility and the plan was always for them to get their own space. They have
looked at various locations, and they think the proposed Buffalo Grove space will do very nicely.
Mr. Refenes stated they provide cross fit programming which is a fitness program developed in
the late 1990's. The person who developed the program made it available online, and a lot of
people started following it. Then the developer started licensing out the cross fit program to
gyms and other fitness facilities. Facilities are independently owned and operated but they use
the Cross Fit name and follow the program of workouts. The concept is to provide general
prepared fitness.
Chairman Smith asked the petitioner to address the special use criteria listed in the Zoning
Ordinance.
Mr. Refenes reviewed the criteria and noted:
1. Serving the public convenience is their goal; they will not be a hazard to the health and
safety of the people in the Village. Their purpose is to help people achieve fitness and
health.
2. The size and location of the place for the current client base is optimal, if not a bit bigger
than what they need; hopefully they can grow into it. The landlord has also noted they
have many other areas in this location they could transfer them to if they get to a point
where they need a larger unit and he certainly likes this kind of flexibility.
3. The facility will not be injurious to the enjoyment of other property. They are very aware
of potential problems that exist for other gym owners of the same type. They understand
problems such as noise and traffic, so they made sure the space is somewhat secluded
and away from other businesses. They also tried to locate near businesses with different
operating hours to minimize issues such as noise and parking demand.
4. Adequate utilities exist for their use.
5. Parking is set up as first come, first served by the landlord. There are 28 spaces
immediately in front of their location. Their current plan is to cap class sizes at 8 to 10
people. They run 2 hours back to back so there could potentially be some overlap. Their
current class size is 2 people and the most visitors they have during a day is 8 to 10 on
their busiest day across three different hours of classes they offer. All these classes are
outside of standard business hours with the exception of two days a week when they run
a lunch time class for 2-3 people.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked what age groups customers would be.
Mr. Refenes stated typically the age groups are persons from 20 years to about 40 or 50 years
of age. Right now they are only interested in training people 18 years and up. He stated his wife
is certified for a cross fit kids program and they would like to expand into that as some of their
members have already expressed interest. If they decide to offer it, it would probably be a
Saturday class or possibly a once or twice a week evening class.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked what has happened, if anything, with the lighting at the facility
outside as it is secluded and dark at night.
Mr. Refenes stated he has not heard as yet from the landlord. He noted they are facing the
main street whereas the Body Impact facility is somewhat more secluded. They are facing right
onto Barclay Boulevard and the lights are right there but he is still not sure of the study by the
landlord and the results.
There being no further comments or questions from anyone else present, Chairman Smith
closed the public hearing at 7:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Fay Rubin, Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
ERIC SMITH, Chair
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REGULAR MEETING
BUFFALO GROVE PLAN COMMISSION
October 2, 2013
EPIC Power & Conditioning, 1620 Barclay Boulevard -
Special Use for a recreation facility in the Industrial District
Discussion - Development Guidelines for Buffalo Grove and
Prairie View Metra station areas
Chairman Smith called the meeting to order at 7:40 p.m. in the Village Council Chambers,
Buffalo Grove Municipal Building, 50 Raupp Boulevard, Buffalo Grove, Illinois.
Commissioners present: Chairman Smith
Mr. Khan
Mr. Stark
Mr. Cohn
Mr. Weinstein
Ms. Johnson
Mr. Goldspiel
Mr. Matthews
Commissioners absent: None
Also present: Mr. Joshua Refenes, EPIC
Ms. Beverly Sussman, Village Trustee
Mr. Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved by Commissioner Goldspiel, seconded by Commissioner Khan to approve the minutes of
the regular meeting of September 18, 2013. All Commissioners were in favor of the motion and
the motion passed unanimously.
COMMITTEE AND LIAISON REPORTS- None
EPIC POWER & CONDITIONING, 1620 BARCLAY BOULEVARD - SPECIAL USE FOR A
RECREATION FACILITY IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT
Moved by Commissioner Weinstein, seconded by Commissioner Johnson to recommend
approval to the Board of Trustees for a special use for a recreation facility in the Industrial
District for the property at 1620 Barclay Boulevard.
Chairman Smith called for a vote on the motion and the vote was as follows:
AYES: Khan, Stark, Cohn, Weinstein, Johnson, Goldspiel, Matthews, Smith
NAYS: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
The motion passed 8-0.
DISCUSSION - DEVELOPMENT GUIDELINES FOR BUFFALO GROVE AND PRAIRIE VIEW
METRA STATION AREAS
Mr. Pfeil reviewed the background to the Metra station planning concepts. In order to encourage
the use of mass transit the Village received a planning grant in 2006 from the RTA, and a
consultant worked with the Village to prepare a "transit oriented development" study for the two
Metra station areas. The Plan Commission was involved in the public review process and the
public hearing, and the proposed plan was presented to the Village Board. The Board did not
approve the document as a "plan" because there were concerns about housing density for some
areas, as well as the scale of some residential and commercial buildings. The Village Board
approved the document as a transit station area study in 2007 rather than as a plan.
Mr. Pfeil reviewed the 2007 concept plans for the Prairie View and Buffalo Grove train station
areas. He noted the plans are essentially form-based zoning which defines the size and
architectural elements for buildings rather than just delineating zoning areas. He noted that the
Village's 2009 Comprehensive Plan shows land use designations for the train station areas, but
does not recommend specific building forms or sizes.
Mr. Pfeil noted that the RTA is interested in working with communities to implement plans that
were developed with grant funding. In 2011 the RTA approved a technical assistance grant for
another consultant to work with the Village on design guidelines and zoning regulations to guide
development in the train station areas. The consultant retained by the RTA focused on a form
based approach for design guidelines and regulations for the two Metra station areas. He noted
that the approach is to define physical forms that would be allowed in specific locations. The
essence of form based zoning is a plan that shows the districts and within those districts the
building forms that could be built. The regulations include details for building sizes and
architectural features such as window placement and design elements.
Mr. Pfeil noted that at the project steering committee meeting in December 2011, several
members suggested that planned unit development zoning would be a better way to proceed
than form based regulations. Of particular concern was possible loss of control regarding
permitted uses.
Mr. Pfeil noted that the consultant provided a final document - Development Guidelines for
Station Areas - in May 2013 for Prairie View and the Buffalo Grove station area. He said the
Plan Commission's input concerning the recommendations will be very useful in determining if
the guidelines can be used in whole or in part to guide development in the train station areas.
Commissioner Stark commented that future residential development near the Prairie View
station is controlled by Buffalo Grove's boundary agreement with Lincolnshire.
Mr. Pfeil said the boundary agreement covers the area east of the rail line along Prairie Road
and areas farther east. The agreement limits residential density on the Stancliff farm at Port
Clinton Road to two units per acre. The block south of Stancliff is also limited to two units per
acre. The area between the Noah's Landing townhomes and Brockman Avenue is designated
for a maximum density of six units per acre.
Commissioner Goldspiel stated he wonders if the component of practicality of customers was
applied here. He understands how this kind of building can work in a downtown area, but the
Metra line serving Prairie View and Buffalo Grove is not full service, so it may difficult to achieve
more dense types of development.
Mr. Pfeil agreed that the real estate market does not appear to support the scale of development
proposed in the 2007 study. It may be difficult to achieve the scale proposed in the new design
guidelines, especially near the Buffalo Grove station. It doesn't seem likely that the current land
uses will be converted to the forms proposed in the guidelines. The Prairie View train station
area appears to have significant potential for redevelopment on sites such as the Fiore Nursery
property and the adjoining metal recycling facility.
Commissioner Johnson noted that since this is a study and not a plan how would this be
implemented. She asked if the Village have to change its zoning regulations.
Mr. Pfeil indicated that the Village's zoning regulations would have to be changed to incorporate
the controls suggested in the consultant's document. One approach would be to delineate the
geographic area around the Buffalo Grove station where the regulations would be in force and
developers would design projects to comply with the regulations. The Village would have to wait
to see if the real estate market responds favorably to the land use designations and zoning
controls.
Mr. Pfeil noted that a concept plan was proposed in 2011 for a parcel near the Buffalo Grove
Metra station. The plan proposed only residential apartments at more than 30 units per acre and
buildings as large as 8 stories. The Village has no zoning that allows this height or density for
residential use, and the Village Board did not support the proposal. This proposal would not
have been in compliance with the guidelines for building form set forth in the current draft by the
consultant.
Commissioner Johnson noted that this form based zoning supposedly adapts to the market but
it seems like it would narrow the market because developers have to comply with the specific
forms and allowed uses. She asked if the Village would be implementing something like this.
Mr. Pfeil said that unless the Plan Commission wants to dig deeper into this approach, he
doesn't think form-based regulations will advance toward implementation in terms of Zoning
Ordinance changes. Based on comments at the steering committee meeting in 2011, it appears
that there's more support for planned unit development zoning than for a form-based approach.
Commissioner Goldspiel commented that the unspoken text of this approach is that builders will
be attracted by allowing a great deal more density than what has been permitted with the current
regulations. This is an important issue and he wonders how much the RTA would get out of this
and whether it would be an overall benefit for the Village. He said if we advance regulations to
allow this type of development, we need to think about real projections of what would transpire
in terms of both the ridership for the RTA and residents.
Commissioner Matthews asked if they talked at all about what kind of income they were looking
at.
Mr. Pfeil said that market pricing of residential units is not addressed in the proposed guidelines.
Supposedly there would be a range in the types of units and market pricing.
Commissioner Cohn noted that market conditions in the area have changed since the 2007 TOD
study with new commercial development in adjacent communities in the Milwaukee Avenue
corridor. This may limit the potential for development near the Buffalo Grove station.
Mr. Pfeil noted that the Berenesa plaza property at Deerfield Pkwy/Milwaukee Avenue is
approved for commercial development, but the site is still vacant. Proposals for re-planning
suggested by potential developers usually include a residential component. If residential
development is allowed at this site, it may affect the feasibility for similar uses in the train station
area.
FUTURE AGENDA SCHEDULE
Mr. Pfeil said the next regular meeting is October 16`h, but there are no items ready of this
agenda. He noted that an appearance review meeting will be scheduled concerning the Pulte
proposal for single-family homes on the Hoffmann property, Prairie Road. The next regular
meeting would be November 6, 2013.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS - None
STAFF REPORT- Reservoir proposal for Didier property, Aptakisic Rd/Buffalo Grove Rd
Mr. Pfeil noted that the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers has released a plan for the Upper Des
Plaines River Basin. The plan proposes a water reservoir on the Didier property, which is
currently unincorporated and used for agriculture and related commercial activities. He said that
the Buffalo Grove Village Board approved a resolution on September 30 opposing the facility on
the Didier property since it is not consistent with the Village Comprehensive Plan. He noted that
the reservoir plan would include use of the Hoffmann property for a spoil area.
Mr. Pfeil noted that the Didier family is opposed to the reservoir plan, and other local agencies
are also concerned about the use of the farm property to store water, and whether the reservoir
facility would be effective in reducing flooding problems.
Mr. Pfeil noted that the Army Corps would need a local sponsor to acquire land needed for
facilities such as the reservoir.
Commissioner Goldspiel asked how the water would enter and leave the reservoir.
Mr. Pfeil noted that the plan indicates that pumps would be used to move the water to Aptakisic
Creek. .
Commissioner Stark asked if local support required would also include the Lake County Forest
Preserve District and the Lake County Board.
Mr. Pfeil commented that these Lake County agencies haven't formally indicated a position
concerning the Didier reservoir, but some county elected officials have noted concerns about the
plan.
NEW BUSINESS - None
ADJOURNMENT
Moved by Commissioner Stark, seconded by Commissioner Khan and carried unanimously to
adjourn. Chairman Smith adjourned the meeting at 8:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Fay Rubin, Recording Secretary
APPROVED BY:
ERIC SMITH, Chair