2005-04-20 - Appearance Review Team - Minutes Board or Commission: ❑Appearance Review Team
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Meeting Date: 04/20/2005
Type of Meeting: ❑ Regular Meeting
Appearance Review Team (ART) Meeting
6:30 p.m., 4/20/2005
Proposed Prestige Leasing Facility, 88 Dundee Road
Petitioner: John Schiess, The Office of John Conrad Schiess, Architect
ART TEAM:
Susan Kenski-Sroka, Plan Commissioner
Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
Greg Summers, Associate Planner
ALSO PRESENT:
John Schiess, The Office of John Conrad Schiess, Architect
Jamil Bou-Saab, Terra Engineering Ltd.
Josephine Bellalta, Altamanu Landscape
CC:
Jeffrey Braiman, Trustee Liaison to the Plan Commission
Bruce Kahn, Trustee Liaison to the Plan Commission
Plan Commission
SUBJECT SITE
88 Dundee Road
PETITIONER REQUEST
The petitioner proposes to renovate the existing medical office building, located at 88 Dundee Road, to
accommodate an automobile showroom, service stalls, and offices for Prestige Leasing.
OVERVIEW
Mr. Schiess noted modifications since the February 2, 2005 ART meeting, including:
1. Excess pavement removed at the northwest, northeast, and southeast corners of the parking
area and replaced with green space/landscaping.
2. Curb and gutter added to the entire parking field.
3. Removal of the mansard roof and replacement with a vertical standing seam metal panel system
to match the new metal roofs proposed for the building.
4. The existing vertical wood siding is now proposed be painted to match the new metal wall panels
on the south elevation of the building.
5. The entrance canopy on the west elevation will be removed and replaced with a new standing
seam metal roof canopy.
Ms. Bellalta noted that more trees are now proposed for removal. Now that a full tree inventory has been
conducted they are aware of some trees which are dead or are in poor condition and pose a safety issue
if not removed. She noted the staff memo dated April 19, 2005 from Rick Kuhl regarding the trees at the
north and west property lines. She stated that she would like to meet with Mr. Kuhl at the site to review
his recommendations.
Ms. Bellalta noted that, at the request of the ART, the grasscrete paver system has been removed from
the plan. They are now proposing Ecoloc pavers which do not have grass growing through them but
which are still water permeable.
Ms. Bellalta noted that they have added a 6 foot high solid wood fence along the north, east, and a
portion of the west sides of the property as requested by the ART at the February 2, 2005 meeting.
Ms. Bellalta noted that they are now showing the required parkway trees at 40 feet on center. These
trees will be Homestead Elms which are a disease resistant variety. The four tress located in the south
yard of the property are Sunburst Thornless Honey Locust which were selected due to their open, see
through quality. The trees located east of the building (by the customer parking area)will be Chanticleer
Pears, selected for their ornamental flowers. West of the building they have selected Allee Lacebark
Elms. At the northwest corner of the site they propose River Birch because this is the low portion of the
site and these trees can accommodate occasional water inundation and wet soils at their roots.
ART RECOMMENDATION / NOTES
Mr. Summers asked why the petitioner elected to propose painting of the existing vertical wood siding in
lieu of replacing it with a new material, such as metal wall panels to match those used on the south
elevation.
Mr. Schiess noted that they agree that the prior submittal had a mix of too many materials and differing
styles. They felt that removing the mansard roof and eliminating the asphalt shingle sufficiently limited
the number of materials. The cost implications of replacing all of the vertical wooden siding and replacing
it with a new material are simply too high for a leased building. They felt selecting a paint color to match
the new metal wall panels used on the south elevation of the building would be sufficient. He noted that
the costs are driven up because they cannot place new metal walls panels over the existing wood. The
existing siding would have to be removed to ensure that no moisture is trapped inside the walls.
Mr. Summers asked if the vertical metal panels proposed to replace the existing mansard roof are the
same as those proposed for the curved roof on the south elevation and the entry canopy on the west
elevation.
Mr. Schiess stated that they are. Mr. Schiess presented a material sample board with a sample of the
metal roof panel and color chips for the paint on the existing vertical wood siding.
Mr. Summers asked if the petitioner has reviewed the selected colors of the wall panels, roof panels, and
paint with the existing brick and if they are comfortable that the color palette as proposed is attractive.
Mr. Schiess indicated that they have and he is comfortable that the selected colors, materials, and
finishes work well together.
ART members had no objections to the proposed finishes.
Mr. Summers asked why the petitioner had not continued the curved roof over the new showroom area
back to the front wall plane of the office portion of the building instead of stopping it at the rear of the
entrance canopy.
Mr. Schiess stated it was both related to cost and aesthetics. He felt the contrast achieved where the
curved roof meets the wall will help set it off from the rest of the building and provide a transition
between the new front elements and the existing building.
Mr. Summers asked how this curved roof will meet the wall behind, since the curved roof has a lower
plate height than the existing wall.
Mr. Schiess noted that this was a drawing error. The plate height of the curved roof should be the same
as the existing wall, and the curve of the roof will be more gentle, reaching the same overall height.
Mr. Summers asked if the new vertical element on the front elevation would be used to display signage.
Mr. Schiess noted that it would. The sign would not be a box sign with internally illumination. They
propose individually mounted aluminum letters with light washing over the letters.
Mr. Summers noted that the size and location of the signs are subject to the requirements of the Village
Sign Code. The Building Commissioner approves signs that comply with the Sign Code. If variations
are requested, the Zoning Board of Appeals ("ZBA")would conduct a public hearing.
Mr. Summers asked about the appearance of the Ecoloc pavers and, in particular, whether weeds would
grow in the drainage spaces between the pavers.
Ms. Bellalta provided specifications for the pavers, including a photo of the paving system.
Mr. Bou-Saab noted that these pavers do have drainage holes in them, but those holes are filled with
gravel and the pavers sit on a deep gravel base which prevents the accumulation of dirt for the weeds to
grow in.
Mr. Summers asked if the petitioner could change the windows at offices 1 and 2 to three separate
window banks, each centered between the columns of the canopy in front of them to create a more
rhythmic flow.
Mr. Schiess indicated that he would do so.
Mr. Schiess noted that the ART members' comments about the mansard roof helped him in working with
his client to create a more attractive building.
The ART recommended approval of the documents submitted subject to three conditions:
1. Revision of the drawings to reflect the higher plate height and more gentle curve of the metal
roof on the south elevation.
2. Modification of the windows at offices 1 and 2 to three separate window banks, each centered
between the columns of the canopy in front of them, creating a more rhythmic flow.
3. Further review of the trees at the north and west property lines with appropriate Village Staff to
determine which trees could be saved.
The meeting adjourned at 7:15 p.m.