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2009-03-25 - Appearance Review Team - Minutes Board or Commission: ❑Appearance Review Team Document Type: ❑Agenda 0 Minutes Meeting Date: 03/25/2009 Type of Meeting: ❑ Regular Meeting ART Meeting Dengeo's, 195 W. Dundee Road Minutes March 25, 2009 Appearance Review Team (ART) MEETING 195 W. DUNDEE ROAD —DENGEO'S PROPOSED BUILDING MODIFICATIONS AND SIGNS MARCH 25, 2009 PRESENT Ghida Neukirch, Deputy Village Manager DeAnn Glover, Village Trustee Robert Pfeil, Village Planner Brian Sheehan, Deputy Building Commissioner/Operations Carol Berman, Deputy Building Commissioner/Administration Joseph Wallace, Plan Examiner Louis Windecker, Zoning Board of Appeals Commissioner Brett Kryska, Administrative Intern Julie Kamka, Building Department Secretary Louis Atsaves, Dengeo's Patrick Marzullo, Architectural Environments, P.C. PROPOSAL Mr. Marzullo reviewed the proposal. The wall area of the proposed wall sign on the north elevation was clarified. The sign on the west elevation of the building and the face of the ground sign may remain as they exist. Mr. Atsaves explained there is a cost factor involved with the signs and they may not be able to change all the signs at this time. Ms. Neukirch asked if the signs would eventually all be changed to be consistent. Mr. Atsaves stated that if he cannot change the signs now, he would like to change them down the line so the signs can be consistent. The existing ground sign is to be relocated as shown on the site plan but the face will not change at this time. The only sign that would be changed at this time is the wall sign on the north elevation of the building. He is in the process of getting prices on the signage and will have a more definite plan once he knows the costs. Mr. Marzullo added that all the owners would like all the signs to be changed. It is just a matter of the construction costs at this time. Trustee Glover believes that if the existing signs are used for the ground sign and the west elevation wall sign, it would detract from the total package. The proposed changes are an upgrade and will look very nice. Com. Windecker asked about the height of the wall on the north elevation. Mr. Marzullo stated that the wall is twenty-five (25) feet to the top of the wall. Com. Windecker asked if the proposed sign would be illuminated. Mr. Marzullo stated that the sign will be illuminated. Com. Windecker is concerned about the residential area that faces the restaurant and the height of the proposed wall sign. Mr. Marzullo explained that the existing wall sign on the north elevation is currently illuminated until 11:00 P.M. or after all the personnel are gone. Mr. Marzullo explained that they are trying to change the entire look of the building. One major change is cutting back the five (5) foot overhang to one (1) foot, just up to the steel plates and trimming off the end of the roof and replacing the gutter. They will bring out the tower about twelve (12) inches from the wall. There will be a one (1) foot encroachment and an eight (8) inch encroachment into the front yard setback. The tower will overhang the foundation by twelve (12) inches. The columns will be supported by a steel frame. There will not be a foundation beyond the building line. They have applied for a variation for these encroachments. This look will be critical to the new design. They are cutting back four (4) feet of the existing overhang, which hangs over the building line. They are adding stone veneer to the front and sides of the building. Some EIFS is being added but more EIFS is being removed. The only EIFS being added would be on the top part of the north elevation. The existing overhang is all EIFS. They are covering up as much EIFS as they can on the bottom, the corners and around the corners on the east and west sides. They are adding new, smaller windows. The current building looks like a cafeteria with all the windows. They are trying to close up the building both on the interior and exterior. They will paint the existing roof, all the existing trim, all the EIFS and brick around the building. New wall lights will be installed on the exterior. They are trying to update the look. He believes the new look is more of a residential look than commercial since there are residential areas around the building. Ms. Neukirch asked if the garbage enclosure on the south elevation is part of the building. Mr. Marzullo advised that it is. Mr. Marzullo added that the color of the building will be toned down. The current building is all white with red signs. The proposed colors are more earth tone colors. Ms. Neukirch believes that the stone selection and the colors are well designed. It is a significant enhancement. Mr. Pfeil inquired about the EIFS calculation on the north elevation. It appears that the proposed calculation is too high based on the proposed renderings. Mr. Marzullo based the calculations without including the doors and windows. Mr. Pfeil believes that the proposed EIFS on the east elevation is understated. Mr. Marzullo will recalculate the proposed EIFS for each elevation to include the entire area including doors and windows and resubmit to the Village. Mr. Pfeil advised that the goal is to limit EIFS on each elevation to no more than twenty-five (25)percent. Mr. Atsaves asked about keeping the wording on the ground sign (Ribs, Chicken, Ribs, etc). Mr. Marzullo believes this can be done tastefully. Ms. Nidhi Vaid, Associate Planner, was not present at the ART meeting but submitted the following comments: "I have reviewed the packet for Dengeo's ART Review. I think the proposed elevations look very nice and are a huge improvement over the existing elevations. The drawings show a good use of materials, awnings, signages and lighting fixtures. They are reducing the use if EIFS on all elevations except the North. I have a suggestion. I noticed that they are keeping the same signage on the west elevation. I think it would be nice to have the same sign on all elevations and possibly the ground sign too. It will make it more consistent and complete." RECOMMENDATION The Appearance Review Team recommends approval of the proposed exterior building modifications and colors, subject to the following: • Updated calculations of the EIFS for each elevation; • Confirmation on the replacement of the wall sign on the west elevation and the ground sign face. It is strongly recommended that the existing signs be replaced to match the proposed, new north elevation sign design. • If the owner desires to modify the ground sign to include the business name and other information about the business, a resubmittal will be required. The roof sign (north elevation wall sign) and the building encroachments require a variation. They are scheduled to appear at the April 21, 2009 Zoning Board of Appeals meeting.