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ART (Appearance Review Team) Meeting
MAY 4, 2010
VILLAS OF CHESTNUT RIDGE
MODIFICATIONS TO EXTERIOR COLORS AND MATERIALS FOR
LOTS 1, 7, 8, 10 AND 14
PRESENT
Ghida Neukirch, Deputy Village Manager
Brian Sheehan, Deputy Building Commissioner/Operations
Carol Berman, Deputy Building Commissioner/Administration
Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
Nidhi Vaid, Associate Planner
Joe Wallace, Plan Examiner
Julie Whitley, Red Seal Development
PROPOSAL
Modifications to exterior colors and materials for Lots 1, 7, 8, 10 and 14. The addresses are commonly
known as:
Lot 1 —2 Daybreak Terrace
Lot 7—2313 Avalon Drive
Lot 8—2311 Avalon Drive
Lot 10—2307 Avalon Drive
Lot 14—2306 Avalon Drive
Ms. Whitley explained the proposed changes.
Lot 1 —This home is a 3A model. The buyers are requesting a custom front exterior with no vinyl shakes
and a custom mix for the color package as detailed in the letter from Red Seal dated April 27, 2010.
Lot 7—This home is a 3B model. Due to monotony issues the front elevation has been customized per
the rendering attached to the letter submitted by Red Seal dated April 27, 2010. The buyer has also
requested a color package for the new exterior elevation that has a mix of the approved colors as detailed
in the letter from Red Seal dated April 27, 2010.
Lot 8—This home is a 3A model. Due to monotony issues the front elevation has been customized per
the rendering attached to the letter submitted by Red Seal dated April 27, 2010. The buyer has requested
a color package for the new exterior elevation that mixes two approved color schemes. They have
requested the "F" exterior color scheme, but with the red entry door from the "D" color scheme as detailed
in the letter from Red Seal dated April 27, 2010.
The buyers have also changed the exterior of the right elevation by adding a window on the side of the
family room.
Lot 14—This home is a 3B plan. The buyers are requesting a custom exterior material color scheme with
stone in lieu of the standard brick. They have also requested a different garage door design, light fixture
and entry door per the rendering attached to the letter submitted by Real Seal dated April 27, 2010.
Lot 10—They are planning on building a spec home on the final Lot 10. Due to monotony design codes,
the front elevation of Lot 10, a 4B plan, has to be customized per the rendering attached to the letter
submitted by Red Seal dated April 27, 2010.
Ms. Whitley inquired about adding a hip roof in lieu of the dormer windows. Mr. Sheehan believes that the
dormer windows make the home look more unique.
RECOMMENDATION
The ART recommends approval of the proposed modifications for Lot 1, 7, 8, 10 and 14.
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MAY 4, 2010
55 W. DUNDEE ROAD, QUALITY CAR CENTER-CAR WASH
PROPOSED GROUND SIGN
PRESENT
Carol Berman, Deputy Building Commissioner/Administration
Brian Sheehan, Deputy Building Commissioner/Operations
Joseph Wallace, Plan Examiner
Robert Pfeil, Village Planner
Nidhi Vaid, Associate Planner
Louis Windecker, ZBA Commissioner
Bob Kuhlman, Quality Car Center-Car Wash
PROPOSAL
Sign Code Variations are required to reface the existing ground sign that is located three (3) feet from the
west property line and within two hundred fifty (250) feet from an existing ground sign located on the
same side of the street. The new face will include a changeable copy LED sign.
Mr. Kuhlman will withdrawal his previous application at the May 18, 2010 Zoning Board of Appeals
meeting.
Mr. Kuhlman explained that the owner of the property, Regina Melman, filed the previous variation
application while he was out of town. It was not his intention to ask to keep the existing signs. He put
together his own sign package. He would like to reface the existing ground sign, that had a variation, and
to add an LED changeable copy sign.
Mr. Kuhlman advised that he purchased the business November 25, 2009. At the time of the purchase,
he was unaware of the issues with the signs. The signs have been there for many years, possibly 15-16
years. In his opinion, the existing signs are ugly and tacking. The car wash entrance and exit signs are
currently located on the light poles that are in the public right-of-way. The building itself sits back from
road in between two (2) banks. The existing signs on the light poles are there to help people find the car
wash. There were previously about 10 signs and banners on the building. He has taken all the signs off
the building and the banners down. He obtained a permit to install a new wall sign in the business color,
yellow. The business colors consist of yellow and black. He had a hard time finding a sign company that
would work in Buffalo Grove. He finally contracted with Affiliated Resources, Inc., which is the same
company that provided the changeable copy sign for JCYS. He is not changing the size or height of the
sign. He will move the top panel to the bottom and put the LED sign on the top portion of the sign. The
LED sign will be text only. He is in the process of working on new entrance and exit signs to replace the
ones that are on the light poles. He will remove the signs in the right-of-way when the new entrance and
exit signs are installed. He does not have enough frontage for two (2) ground signs.
Mr. Sheehan confirmed that the LED portion of the sign will be text only and two-sided. He asked for Mr.
Kuhlman to provide the dimensions of the two (2) panels. Mr. Kuhlman added that he will be losing a few
inches of copy area on each side of the top portion of the sign.
Mr. Sheehan asked if the LED sign will be one (1) color. Mr. Kuhlman confirmed that the LED sign will be
one (1) color, red. Mr. Sheehan asked about the number of lines of copy. Mr. Kuhlman stated that the
LED sign can have a total of three (3) lines of copy. Mr. Sheehan advised that the Zoning Board will ask
about the timing of the screen changes and may limit those. Mr. Sheehan also advised that when other
changeable copy signs of a similar nature have been approved the Village had required that the text be a
static message that changes instantly and does use fading or other techniques to simulate motion.
Mr. Kuhlman added that he does not believe that this type of sign is distracting.
Com. Windecker stated that he has been a Commissioner for over twenty (20) years. The Zoning Board
tries to limit signs so that the Village is presentable. Buffalo Grove is more like Lake Forest or Deerfield.
He stated that sign companies do not like Buffalo Grove because the Zoning Board does not settle for
being told that the proposed signs are the only option. Most companies have numerous sign packages to
choose from.
Ms. Berman confirmed that all the illegal signs that exist on the property will be taken down. She asked a
bout a landscape plan. Mr. Kuhlman advised that he landscaping installed and will provide a plan.
Mr. Sheehan asked Mr. Kuhlman to provide information, including height, size and location for the new
entrance and exit signs to the Zoning Board.
Mr. Pfeil asked which sign company will be changing the ground sign. Mr. Kuhlman advised that
Wheeling Sign Company will reface and move the existing panel from the top to the bottom of the sign
and Affiliated Resources, Inc. will be installing the LED portion.
Mr. Pfeil believes that the proposed sign is cleaner than the existing signs. Mr. Sheehan added that the
outside of the building has been cleaned up with the removal of the signs and banners.
Mr. Sheehan suggested that a representative from Affiliated Resources, Inc. be present at the Zoning
Board meeting to answer any technical questions regarding the sign.
RECOMMENDATION
The Appearance Review Team recommends approval of the proposed sign and requested the following
information to provide to the Zoning Board of Appeals:
1. Provide dimensions of the separate panels on the ground sign;
2. Provide information concerning the number of lines of text proposed, the size of the text and the
timing of the screen changes as well as the type of screen changes that will be used;
3. Provide a landscaping plan;
4. Provide information concerning height, size and location for the new entrance and exist signs;
and
5. Have a representative from Affiliated Resources, Inc. present at the Zoning Board meeting to
answer any technical questions regarding the sign.