2018-07-16 - Ordinance 2018-037 - APPROVING 4TH AMENDMENT TO PLAZA VERDE EAST PUD
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06/20/2018
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION OF THE
VILLAGE OF BUFFALO GROVE HELD IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 50 RAUPP BOULEVARD,
BUFFALO GROVE, ILLINOIS ON WEDNESDAY, JUNE 20, 2018
Call to Order
The meeting was called to order at 7:31 PM by Chairman Frank Cesario
Public Hearings/Items For Consideration
1. Consider an Amendment to the Plaza Verde East Planned Development with Variations
to the Sign Code for the Property at 1205-1349 Dundee Road(Trustee Stein) (Staff
Contact: Chris Stilling)
Mr. Lawrence Freedman, 77 W. Washington Street, Chicago, IL 60602; Mr. David
Mangurten, KMA & Associates, 1121 Lake Cook Road, Deerfield, IL 60015; and Ms.
Lynn Means, Gewalt Hamilton, 625 Forest Edge Drive, Vernon Hills, IL 60061, were
present and sworn in.
Mr. Freedman represents the owner of the Plaza Verde East Shopping Center. His client
has been the owner for some time now and has made most of the recent improvements
to the center. He introduced Mr. Mangurten to review the proposal.
Mr. Mangurten explained that there are three (3) elements to the request for the
amendment to the Planned Unit Development (PUD). He reviewed the existing site
conditions. The first element of the amendment is they want to create a parking field in
front of the 21,000 square foot retail building. The second element of the amendment is
the proposed façade improvements and the third element is the proposed ground sign.
The 21,000 square foot retail building has a lot of vacancies and has for a while.
Comments that they typically hear back is that there are no convenient parking spaces.
Currently, customers have to travel approximately 100 feet to get to the parking lot. They
are proposing to remove part of the concrete sidewalk and landscaping and add
additional parking stalls. About one half of the new parking stalls will be installed at a 45
degree angle. The other half would be installed at 90 degrees. Then every store will have
parking available with 20 feet. The proposed changes to the façade will keep the same
column elements and they will add different exterior materials that include concrete
panels that simulate wood and also add precast concrete. The facade changes would be
on the north, east and west elevations of the building. The final change will include a new
ground sign. The existing electronic reader board ground sign has not functioned in
years. The new ground sign would allow tenants of the retail building to have visibility
along Dundee Road. The new ground sign would incorporate the same materials being
used for the façade. They are requesting a variation to the Sign Code to allow for an
additional 20 square feet of sign area over what is permitted.
Com. Goldspiel is concerned with the proposed parking in front of the retail building. Most
shopping centers have fire lanes located directly in front of the building. He asked staff
about the standards regarding parking. Mr. Stilling advised that the Fire Department looks
at each proposal on a case by case basis. The proposed access would be sufficient. The
Fire Department typically does not want their fire equipment to be that close to a building
in the event of a fire. The Fire Department had reviewed the proposed amendments are
they are fine with it. Com. Goldspiel asked what the separation is between the building
and where fire equipment would be staged. Mr. Stilling advised that the separation, which
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is currently about 30 feet, would remain the same with the proposed parking stalls in
place. Com. Goldspiel asked Ms. Means to review the traffic study that was conducted.
Ms. Means advised that they observed the existing traffic flows on both roads, Dundee
Road and Arlington Heights Road. They monitored stacking and observed the traffic at all
different times during the day and evening. In general, along Arlington Heights Road,
there were typically 2 to 3 cars stacked. The cars never stacked beyond the proposed
parking spaces, so there would be no impact. They also calculated future conditions and
there appeared to be no interference. Com. Goldspiel asked if having cars back up into
the drive aisle will be a hazard. Ms. Means responded no. Some of the proposed parking
stalls are angled and some are direct. There will be approximately 17 to 18 feet for cars
reach the traffic aisle. Com. Goldspiel asked if vehicles coming out of the parking spaces
would impact traffic coming to or from Arlington Heights Road. Ms. Means responded no,
there is a loading area and vehicles would not be backing directly into the traffic. Com.
Goldspiel advised that when this shopping center was approved in the 1970’s, it was
considered to be an upscale center and asked what is being done to account for that. Mr.
Freedman responded that the center was originally built over 30 years ago. The center
owner has not been able to fill the vacancies largely due to the parking constraints. The
proposed amendments will be upgrades to the center. Com. Goldspiel asked the
Petitioners to describe the proposed landscaping. Mr. Mangurten reviewed the proposed
landscaping plan, which is included in the packet. Com. Goldspiel asked if the outdoor
bench seating will still be available. Mr. Magurten advised that the outdoor benches will
largely be replaced with clusters of potted plants. Com. Goldspiel asked if there will be
large areas of asphalt in the parking lot that will not be used. He would like to see a better
use of the parking lot. Mr. Mangurten stated that the goal is to fill the vacancies and have
all the parking spaces in the lot used. Com. Goldspiel reviewed the historic tenants and
recounted that those tenants generated more traffic. The types of tenants attracted to the
center now are more individual-style uses. Mr. Mangurten advised that there are a couple
tenant spaces that are currently under construction; one being a health club. Having
more parking available for that use is essential. Mr. Freedman added that they do not feel
that the center has an over-abundance of parking at this time. Com. Goldspiel asked if
the customers will move in and out of the center more quickly than with the traditional,
older tenant uses. Mr. Mangurten responded that there are different types of tenants in
the center today. They are also trying to attract more restaurant uses. In addition,
patients using DaVita Dialysis typically spend almost half a day there. The mix of tenants
is big and they do not know the total mix that there will be in the future.Com. Goldspiel
understands the new appearance design and it seems to be an improvement to the
center. However, he is concerned that overall this will be a down grade of the center. Mr.
Freedman replied that the center is not the same center that it was back in the 1970’s.
They feel the proposed improvements will be an upgrade of the current center tailored to
today’s market. They need to attract, and retain, tenants. They will be putting landscaping
where they can. Com. Goldspiel asked what would indicate that the proposed
improvements would make the center better. Mr. Freedman responded that the proposed
improvements will be a substantial upgrade to the center.
Com. Weinstein asked about any planned repairs to the remainder of the parking lot. Mr.
Freedman advised that they will repair the entire lot. Com. Weinstein noted that the
proposed façade changes and the proposed ground sign link in appearance, but they
would not match the existing outlot buildings. Mr. Mangurten stated that the outlot tenants
have their own identity but will eventually match in the future. Com. Weinstein asked
about the buildings to the west. Mr. Mangurten advised that the Plaza Verde East center
owner does not own the buildings to the west.
Com. Khan stated that the parking lot is an eyesore. He is pleased to hear about the
upgrades to the parking lot. He has three additional maintenance concerns with the site.
There are very large pot holes in the access drive south of the Starbucks off Arlington
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Heights Road. The pot holes were only filled with cold patch. Mr. Freedman advised that
they will address that with staff. Com. Khan also noted that there are dead trees located
in the islands in the parking lot. He would like those dead trees to be removed or
replaced. Mr. Freedman advised that he will also address that concern with staff. Com.
Khan also noted that the first 10 to 15 feet of the entrance off Dundee Road has been
broken for years. He feels that needs to be addressed as well. Mr. Freedman stated that
he will meet with Village staff to address all the concerns mentioned and will make sure
that any dead trees on the property will be removed. Com. Khan asked about the
proposed pavement markings for the Arlington Heights Road access. Ms. Means replied
that they have recommended new pavement markings. Com. Khan asked Ms. Means to
explain the thought process behind having the through lane share the right turn lane to
Arlington Heights Road. Ms. Means explained that the recommendation made was based
on volumes and gap timing. The right turn was not impeded as much with traffic going
straight through then if being shared with the left turn lane.
Com. Lesser agrees that the owner has made a lot of improvements to the center. He
also agrees that the retail environment has changed over the years. The proposed
amendments will help. He also shares the same concerns with his fellow Commissioners
concerning the parking lot in need of repair. He also agrees with Com. Goldspiel and
would like to see some additional landscaping added. He recommended more planters
along the building. Parking in front of a building is important. He asked which tenant
would be allowed to have panels on the proposed ground sign. Mr. Mangurten explained
that the owner can use the tenant panels in lease negotiations to attract tenants to the
center. Most likely new tenants would be granted tenant panels on the new ground sign.
Com. Lesser stated that he would not want to see tenants that already have visibility from
the road to be allowed more signs. He also does not have any issue with the additional
sign area being requested. However, he would like to see the sign height reduced. He
directed the Petitioner to work with staff to possibly reduce the overall height of the
proposed ground sign. He believes the center is moving in a positive direction and is
improving.
Com. Au appreciates the proposed façade changes and asked if any of the proposed
materials would overlap with the existing outlot buildings. Mr. Mangurten advised that the
materials would be somewhat similar. Com. Au would like to see somewhat similar.
Mr. Stilling provided a material sample board for the Commissioner’s review.
Com. Goldspiel asked if the change to the impervious surface coverage would change
the stormwater detention. Mr. Freedman responded that there would not be any change
to the amount of impervious surface coverage.
Com. Khan noted that other centers have had façade and parking lot improvements.
Initially he had concerns with those improvements. However, this request is not that
different from those and he does not have any issues.
Ch. Cesario asked if there would be a change in the height of the buildings due to the
façade changes. Mr. Mangurten explained that there would be a slight change in the
height due to the materials. The precast concrete would add approximately 2 to 3 feet to
the buildings. Mr. Stilling advised that the new height would still meet code. Mr.
Mangurten added that the change helps break up the buildings. Ch. Cesario believes that
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the façade changes are visually appealing to him. He also believes that reducing the
proposed ground sign to 18 feet in height would be superior.
Mr. Freedman reviewed the standards for the variation for the ground sign. The tenants
are in need of visibility from the roadway as they are blocked by other buildings. The
proposed ground sign would not be more detrimental than what exists now. They are
trying to provide visibility for the tenants in the setback buildings.
Com. Lesser added that he is not opposed to much of what is being requested. However,
some of the hardship and unique circumstances were created by the owner with regards
to the outlot buildings.
There were no additional questions or comments from the Commissioners. There were
no questions or comments from the audience.
Ch. Cesario entered the Staff Report dated June 20, 2018 as Exhibit 1.
The public hearing was closed at 8:36 PM.
Mr. Stilling amended Condition number 2 in the staff report to include that the owner shall
remove and replace landscaping and complete repairs to the parking lot satisfactory to
Village staff.
Moved by Com. Weinstein, seconded by Com. Khan, to make a positive recommendation
to the Village Board to approve an amendment to the Plaza Verde East Shopping Center
planned unit development (PUD) in the B-3 District with a variation to the Buffalo Grove
Sign Code, subject to the following conditions:
1. The proposed improvements shall substantially conform to the plans and exhibits
attached as part of this petition.
2. The owner shall complete repairs to the existing parking lot for their portion of the Plaza
Verde East Shopping Center in a manner acceptable to the Village. Said repairs shall be
completed within 6 months from the date of approval of the Ordinance.
3. Any dead trees shall be removed and replaced in a manner acceptable to the Village.
4. Pavement markings will be added to delineate clearly the proper lane usage at the
Arlington Heights Road access point.
5. The Petitioner shall consider an overall sign height of less than 20 feet if the reduced
height meets the goals and objectives set forth.
Ch. Cesario is comfortable with the request. He feels that visibility is reasonable
considering the activity on Dundee Road, the size of the property and the setback of the
buildings. He believes that the overall increase in the sign area is reasonable. He is
comfortable with the traffic study and he believes that these will be an improvement to the
center.
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RESULT: RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE \[UNANIMOUS\]
Next: 7/16/2018 7:30 PM
MOVER: Mitchell Weinstein, Commissioner
SECONDER: Zill Khan, Commissioner
AYES: Cesario, Goldspiel, Khan, Lesser, Weinstein, Au
ABSENT: Adam Moodhe, Matthew Cohn
Adjournment
The meeting was adjourned at 9:07 PM
Chris Stilling
APPROVED BY ME THIS 20th DAY OF June , 2018